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Started by General Kaliero3,949 pages

Graphics is going to be slightly subjective, I suppose, but:

Both images are pretty standard for their respective games' graphics. Look at the detail and depth on LoS' vampire, compared to DI's somewhat monotone and even slightly jaggy demon. And while Dante is a little restricted by his shirtlessness, compare the folds and creases in Gabriel's tunic to Dante's painted-on textures. The lighting is also notably more nuanced.

I will give that Hell's imagery was interesting, but I don't want to credit the game with that, as it's taken wholesale from Alighieri's writings and Bosch's famous paintings. I also feel that LoS' varied locations kept it from getting bogged down, as the end of DI did in samey, greyish-brown areas that were not at all visually interesting.

While I respect Patrick Stewart, his narration wasn't too big a deal for me. I really liked Gabriel and Pan's voices, though. Cornell and Carmilla were excellent as well. And the final boss, whose voice was actually a pleasant surprise. The whole cast, I feel, did admirably.

The end boss was a surprise, but if you pay attention to the story, his appearance does in fact make sense. It's more apparent when you see subtle clues on a second playthrough. I really liked how the storyline was resolved, though Gabriel's characterization was not what it should have been.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Trufax. I'm trying to read up on Kain to see if he's worthy of a match here against Gabriel.

Curious about the sequel, too, but the whole concept

Spoiler:
(Dracula and Death fighting Hell in modern day)
intrigues me a lot.
Just imagine all the crazy shit he can do in modern day.
Spoiler:
Fighting satan in the streets will be epic

Originally posted by quanchi112
Both games were compared as gof of war lite and I've seen castelvania ripped as well. Neither are as well done as gow and I have already listed my reasons for preferring it over castlevania. Loved all three though.

Castlevania's gotten great reviews across the board.

Also, amusingly enough, God of War owes its very existence to games like Castlevania, Metroid, Prince of Persia, and Zelda. Puzzle-adventure gameplay, as well as acrobatic action-adventure, was created by those series.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Graphics is going to be slightly subjective, I suppose, but:

Ahhhh! Poor anti-aliasing! How can that still get screwed up?!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Both games were compared as gof of war lite and I've seen castelvania ripped as well. Neither are as well done as gow and I have already listed my reasons for preferring it over castlevania. Loved all three though.
If it wasn't for games like Castlevania, Prince of Persia, and DMC. God of War would never been made in the first place. God of War had Castlevania Whip fighting style in the form of chains. God of War ripped some of SOT trilogy's puzzles.

edit: Peach sniped me.

For the record, wanted to use this, but it's too big for here. For those who click, look at the marbled alcoves, the ornately carved wooden door, the distressed bricks. And this is all in-game. The textures for LoS are exceptional.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Graphics is going to be slightly subjective, I suppose, but:

Both images are pretty standard for their respective games' graphics. Look at the detail and depth on LoS' vampire, compared to DI's somewhat monotone and even slightly jaggy demon. And while Dante is a little restricted by his shirtlessness, compare the folds and creases in Gabriel's tunic to Dante's painted-on textures. The lighting is also notably more nuanced.

I will give that Hell's imagery was interesting, but I don't want to credit the game with that, as it's taken wholesale from Alighieri's writings and Bosch's famous paintings. I also feel that LoS' varied locations kept it from getting bogged down, as the end of DI did in samey, greyish-brown areas that were not at all visually interesting.

While I respect Patrick Stewart, his narration wasn't too big a deal for me. I really liked Gabriel and Pan's voices, though. Cornell and Carmilla were excellent as well. And the final boss, whose voice was actually a pleasant surprise. The whole cast, I feel, did admirably.

The end boss was a surprise, but if you pay attention to the story, his appearance does in fact make sense. It's more apparent when you see subtle clues on a second playthrough. I really liked how the storyline was resolved, though Gabriel's characterization was not what it should have been.

I still prefer the graphics visually while playing through on dante's inferno and the real difference was the major cinemas at the beginning, middle, and end of dante's inferno compared to the big scenes in castelvania.

I did like castlevania's bosses better than most of the dante's infero bosses save the last one, lucy.

Los kept it more interesting with their puzzles like the war game, blood maze, moving the paths to match from Pan, etc.

Cornell was my favorite character in the entire game by far. I loved the lord of the lycans. The cinema against claudia was awesome. My two favorite characters enemies wise were Cornell and Pan when he changed into the silver warrior he looked very cool. I thought the last guy was lame and really can't remember his voice standing out at all good or bad.

Gabriel's voice was ok for me not good or bad but it did fit. pan's voice really fit as well for the character.

Yes, i do realize now after who and what the founders of the brotherhood were fighting why this would be the last boss and how it all fit together.

I loved how gabriel looked at the end of the game with zobek. Can't wait to ge my hands on this gabriel. His combat cross was also so lethal by the end of the game especially with his wings, boots, and sub weapons to boot he was a real monster.

Originally posted by Phanteros
If it wasn't for games like Castlevania, Prince of Persia, and DMC. God of War would never been made in the first place. God of War had Castlevania Whip fighting style in the form of chains. God of War ripped some of SOT trilogy's puzzles.

edit: Peach sniped me.

I'm good at doing that ๐Ÿ˜Š

Originally posted by General Kaliero
For the record, wanted to use this, but it's too big for here. For those who click, look at the marbled alcoves, the ornately carved wooden door, the distressed bricks. And this is all in-game. The textures for LoS are exceptional.

I have to rant about the lens flare. LENS FLARES ARE BAD OKAY.

However, those textures are gorgeous. Speaking as an artist who spends a great deal of time creating textures to use in artwork? They did an absolutely amazing job on those. So much detail, and such lovely quality <3

Originally posted by Peach
Castlevania's gotten great reviews across the board.

Also, amusingly enough, God of War owes its very existence to games like Castlevania, Metroid, Prince of Persia, and Zelda. Puzzle-adventure gameplay, as well as acrobatic action-adventure, was created by those series.

Oh I am sure it wasn't the first to do anything but in terms of adventure games it does it the best imo with the boss battles, graphics, and storyline.
Originally posted by Phanteros
If it wasn't for games like Castlevania, Prince of Persia, and DMC. God of War would never been made in the first place. God of War had Castlevania Whip fighting style in the form of chains. God of War ripped some of SOT trilogy's puzzles.

edit: Peach sniped me.

I haven't been into games as long but I mean in terms of being the current king of adventure it seems to be one step ahead of the curve.

I am playing through one of these games you just mentioned here I usually don't speak about which series it is but I can't stand it. I will let you know after I beat it which game is such a disappointment hopefully this week after I clear it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I still prefer the graphics visually while playing through on dante's inferno and the real difference was the major cinemas at the beginning, middle, and end of dante's inferno compared to the big scenes in castelvania.

I did like castlevania's bosses better than most of the dante's infero bosses save the last one, lucy.

Los kept it more interesting with their puzzles like the war game, blood maze, moving the paths to match from Pan, etc.

Cornell was my favorite character in the entire game by far. I loved the lord of the lycans. The cinema against claudia was awesome. My two favorite characters enemies wise were Cornell and Pan when he changed into the silver warrior he looked very cool. I thought the last guy was lame and really can't remember his voice standing out at all good or bad.

Gabriel's voice was ok for me not good or bad but it did fit. pan's voice really fit as well for the character.

Yes, i do realize now after who and what the founders of the brotherhood were fighting why this would be the last boss and how it all fit together.

I loved how gabriel looked at the end of the game with zobek. Can't wait to ge my hands on this gabriel. His combat cross was also so lethal by the end of the game especially with his wings, boots, and sub weapons to boot he was a real monster.


Well of course the pre-rendered cutscenes looked better! That's why they were pre-rendered!

I was impressed by LoS doing almost everything with in-game graphics. I'm actually not sure if anything was pre-rendered. Getting to the point nowadays when it can be hard to tell.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh I am sure it wasn't the first to do anything but in terms of adventure games it does it the best imo with the boss battles, graphics, and storyline. I haven't been into games as much but I mean in terms of being the current king of adventure it seems to be one step ahead of the curve.

I am playing through one of these games you just mentioned here I usually don't speak about which series it is but I can't stand it. I will let you know after I beat it which game is such a disappointment hopefully this week after I clear it.


Wasn't GoW3 pretty universally given the "mediocre" label? I know it sold poorly for an A-list brand, and it was put on sale at Gamestop right quick. Members here have said the story and graphics were lackluster, too.

Also, I'm betting the game that disappointed you was DMC.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Well of course the pre-rendered cutscenes looked better! That's why they were pre-rendered!

I was impressed by LoS doing almost everything with in-game graphics. I'm actually not sure if anything was pre-rendered. Getting to the point nowadays when it can be hard to tell.

Wasn't GoW3 pretty universally given the "mediocre" label? I know it sold poorly for an A-list brand, and it was put on sale at Gamestop right quick. Members here have said the story and graphics were lackluster, too.

Also, I'm betting the game that disappointed you was DMC.

Yeah, I only hope I am not into games by then. When I am into something it's obsession mode and then I put it down and rarely ever engage in it until the next time I become obsessed.

I also don't have the expertise as you or Peach do by assessing pictures the way you both do I usually go by what visually impressed me more at face value during the game.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Well of course the pre-rendered cutscenes looked better! That's why they were pre-rendered!

I was impressed by LoS doing almost everything with in-game graphics. I'm actually not sure if anything was pre-rendered. Getting to the point nowadays when it can be hard to tell.

Wasn't GoW3 pretty universally given the "mediocre" label? I know it sold poorly for an A-list brand, and it was put on sale at Gamestop right quick. Members here have said the story and graphics were lackluster, too.

Also, I'm betting the game that disappointed you was DMC.

Ah you edited.

I didn't look at one review from gow3. I was simply amazed by it and couldn't put it down. Both of these games castlevania and gow I was getting so reviews didn't matter to me I didn't read them, really.

I gave up on dmc already.

Nope, lost sands and I will go into detail after I clear it but the pos series to me if it's like this game is so repetitive without any cool bosses thus far in this game anyways I fail to see it's charm.

Ps. Peach I know you like this game and am not prepared to argue against it until I clear it so I will settle up with you then.

There is no game called "Lost Sands". Nor is there a "PoS" series. ๐Ÿ˜› DMC does suck though.

I also don't have the expertise as you or Peach do

Though I admit this is something I sometimes forget about. The part of my brain that critiques and nitpicks art and designs and so on just never shuts off so it's something I do without a second thought. And as a result I don't always remember that most people probably won't see things the way GK or I do, and won't necessarily pick up on the same things we do.

I will be happy to debate the intricacies of the Prince of Persia series (as I am possibly more obsessed with it than Peach) when you've finished. Though I will say right now that after the dismal failure that is Warrior Within, Forgotten Sands is the weakest of the Sands of Time subseries.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
I will be happy to debate the intricacies of the Prince of Persia series (as I am possibly more obsessed with it than Peach) when you've finished. Though I will say right now that after the dismal failure that is Warrior Within, Forgotten Sands is the weakest of the Sands of Time subseries.

Yeah, you're probably the bigger fan of the two of us. I couldn't force myself through WW and I still haven't played Forgotten Sands, despite getting it at midnight with you ๐Ÿ˜›

Sands of Time, though, is in my top ten of "Best Games Ever".

Originally posted by Peach
There is no game called "Lost Sands". Nor is there a "PoS" series. ๐Ÿ˜› DMC does suck though.

Though I admit this is something I sometimes forget about. The part of my brain that critiques and nitpicks art and designs and so on just never shuts off so it's something I do without a second thought. And as a result I don't always remember that most people probably won't see things the way GK or I do, and won't necessarily pick up on the same things we do.

Oh geez. Pop. Haha. Yeah when you guys critique these pics it's almost like speaking a foreign language to me.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
I will be happy to debate the intricacies of the Prince of Persia series (as I am possibly more obsessed with it than Peach) when you've finished. Though I will say right now that after the dismal failure that is Warrior Within, Forgotten Sands is the weakest of the Sands of Time subseries.
Ok. The other pop's are better then ? Which ones an dare they available to download on the ps3 or the xbox 360 ? from what I know which isn't much on these but I seem to recall the originals just appeared on the ps2 though I might be wrong this is purely off some memory I may or may not have. LOL.

I wanted to get heavenly sword originally but they were selling a used copy for 30 bucks and I hate getting used games for some reason and a new copy of lost sands caught my eye at 30 bucks so I just got it. i will let you know after I beat it.

Whenever I beat a game I will try to debate these characters to in the vs. I am sure you guys already picked up on that. Night.

Order of quality: Sands of Time, The Two Thrones, The Forgotten Sands, Warrior Within. SoT is without a doubt the best despite being the oldest. I think SoT is available on XBL.

Heavenly Sword, as I remember, is not worth it. Rental is the consensus.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Heavenly Sword, as I remember, is not worth it. Rental is the consensus.

Or pick up the used one, beat it within a week, and return it.

I really enjoyed most of those games. Heavenly Sword, Dante's Inferno, GW 3 and LoS. Never tried Prince of Persia, though it doesn't interest me. May try out one of the newer ones though.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Order of quality: Sands of Time, The Two Thrones, The Forgotten Sands, Warrior Within. SoT is without a doubt the best despite being the oldest. I think SoT is available on XBL.

Heavenly Sword, as I remember, is not worth it. Rental is the consensus.

t-Two Towers?