Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Actually he is a thief. And makes it a point to steal from criminals, as I believe was specified in the first game.I forgot about the awesome that is The Murray.
Even though in the first game we can clearly see several instances where he is not stealing from thieves but other places.
Murray isn't that awesome. Couldn't drive worth a **** in the first game. And he is stupid. And his punches couldn't even phase Mugshot. So he sucks at everything.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
So, can any of the Star Wars fan tell me how Shaak Ti canonically died? Was it Grievous? Or am I supposed to believe Starkiller forced her to commit suicide?
Despite what the others say, TFU is canon and Starkiller killed her. Though technically she commited suicide by purposefully not blocking his saber so she could freely attack him, so she basically ran into it. Unfortunately he blocked her attack with the Force an inch from his eye, which she must have been miffed at.
APOLOGIES FOR TEH LATENESS OF THIS REPLY!
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Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
So the hero of Fallout goes around bencpressing cars and giant boulders, does he? Does he fight giant monsters like it's a hobby? Does he slay a sorcerer that warps reality every time his spirit is summoned to save the world?If he does, tell me, and I'll play that game real fast. Because Epic Mickey is getting to be more and more of an epic disappointment for me.
And why the hell wouldn't you have told me that before?
Fallout 3 has you battling through hordes of 10-foot mutants to save Abraham Lincoln's hat, which you then get to wear. This is the pinnacle of badass in gaming.
TFU is most certainly not canon.
G-canon is George Lucas Canon; the six Episodes and anything directly provided to Lucas Licensing by Lucas (including unpublished production notes from him or his production department that are never seen by the public). Elements originating with Lucas in the movie novelizations, reference books, and other sources are also G-canon, though anything created by the authors of those sources is C-canon. When the matter of changes between movie versions arises, the most recently released editions are deemed superior to older ones, as they correct mistakes, improve consistency between the two trilogies, and express Lucas's current vision of the Star Wars universe most closely. The deleted scenes included on the DVDs are also considered G-canon (when they're not in conflict with the movie).
"There are two worlds here," explained Lucas. "There's my world, which is the movies, and there's this other world that has been created, which I say is the parallel universe—the licensing world of the books, games and comic books. They don't intrude on my world, which is a select period of time, [but] they do intrude in between the movies. I don't get too involved in the parallel universe."
"When I said [other people] could make their own Star Wars stories, we decided that, like Star Trek, we would have two universes: My universe and then this other one."
Games are not considered part of the true canon, and fall into the same "What if" situation as books and comics. TFU is the same. And frankly, thanks to TFU2, I'd say it belongs in the Infinities side of things.
It is canon within the expanded universe, sorry for not being more clear on that point. Which is why the first quote mentions different levels of canon such as G-canon and C-canon. Anything that contradicts a higher level of canon is non-canon, but everything not non-canon is canonwithin the EU. It should be noted that while the quote says that deleted scenes are G-canon the one with Shaak Ti is not, as it contradicts the later scene where Anakin and Obi-Wan actually meet Greivous for the first time.
The whole things a ****ing travesty in my opinion, and really needlessly complicated.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It is canon within the expanded universe, sorry for not being more clear on that point. Which is why the first quote mentions different levels of canon such as G-canon and C-canon. Anything that contradicts a higher level of canon is non-canon, but everything not non-canon is canonwithin the EU. It should be noted that while the quote says that deleted scenes are G-canon the one with Shaak Ti is not, as it contradicts the later scene where Anakin and Obi-Wan actually meet Greivous for the first time.The whole things a ****ing travesty in my opinion, and really needlessly complicated.
You almost need a working knowledge of quantum physics if you are going to enjoy SW EU.
EU canon isn't worth a damn.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
It is ridiculously complicated, which is why I stick to the movies are canon and that's it. Anything that contradicts the movies or Lucas didn't happen, anything that doesn't contradict could have happened, but didn't necessarily happen.You almost need a working knowledge of quantum physics if you are going to enjoy SW EU.
First paragraph is spot on.
Second one...well, I'd also say you have to be okay with reading some real garbage to enjoy EU 😛
Originally posted by Peach
EU canon isn't worth a damn.First paragraph is spot on.
Second one...well, I'd also say you have to be okay with reading some real garbage to enjoy EU 😛
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
EU > The Films though.
Originally posted by NemeBro
The only reason people think the OT is better than the PT is bullshit nostalgia.They are of the same quality, with Return of the Jedi being the worst of the series.
ESB>RotS(second half)>ANH>RotS(first half)>RotJ>AotC>TPM
That is the order of quality. If you think different you are a sillyheaded muffin.