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Started by TheAuraAngel3,949 pages
Originally posted by Nephthys
Twivamps would stomp the Avatarverse. They're too strong, fast and durable.

Movies, yes. Otherwise, the benders from the show would probably fair much better

Originally posted by quanchi112
I dunno I see the the combined nations here as being too much for the vamps and wolves.

Nah.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Movies, yes. Otherwise, the benders from the show would probably fair much better

Slightly better, but the speed difference is just too great and not much the Benders have can hurt the Twivamps.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Movies, yes. Otherwise, the benders from the show would probably fair much better

Nah.

If we get two more movies out of this deal I'd argue for last airbender for sure.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Slightly better, but the speed difference is just too great and not much the Benders have can hurt the Twivamps.

Aang is pretty fracking fast. And his Avatar State would kill the Vamps.

Except Alec/Jane. Haxxed twins I tell ya.

I still haven't seen those Twilight movies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Uhm, Loghain wasn't once again privy to the information that you needed a grey warden so of course this plan to eliminate the archdemon would have failed. My point was with this information and with the decisions he made you can still eliminate the archdemon but can't fault him because 99 percent of the world outside the grey wardens don't know how significant the grey wardens are.

He wasn't a lunatic. Where are you pulling this from ? He was still well respected and still becomes a badass grey warden knowing full well what he has to do with this new knowledge. Condemning a man for his actions when he wasn't aware of the secret is silly and the man was still a hero and highly respected throughout ferelden despite him losing and falling in as a grey warden per the hero.

He's far better than that whiny Alistair and unlike him he knows what needs to be done and doesn't cry about it once he's aware. Alistair was crying about responsibility throughout the entire game pretty much.

Again your entire rant is attacking him for not knowing why the wardens are needed. The man is great who makes difficult decisions in difficult times. Bottom line.

Yes I can, because he still attacked them completely unprovoked. And as Nemebro pointed out, history proves that they are the greatest asset for fighting the darkspawn you can get. I'm not just damning him because he destroyed them, I'm damning him because of what a momumentally stupid thing that was to attempt. He had the barest of reasons to do so and was utterly unprovoked. And as I pointed out, doing so just increases the odds of Fereldan being invaded, as do all his actions. It was a stupendously idiotic thing for him to do and was a massive overreaction to a percieved threat. And, even if the 'Only Grey Wardens can stop an Archedemon' thing didn't exist, his actions still would have doomed the country. As I pointed out, there was no way Loghain could win that fight. By sacrificing so much of the army and Ostagar he fvcked his chances over. Game over. He loses.

The massive paranoia? The crazy choices he makes? Consorting with Blood Mages, slavers, murderers and traitors? Take your pick. Loghain does more than enough to show just how far he's fallen over the course of the game.

Alisatir may be whiny but at least he doesn't murder and enslave his own people and goes on to be a good king. Alistair is the great man, not Loghain.

Absolutely not. Making a diffiult decision does not make you a great man. Making the right decisions makes you a great man. Loghain did neither. He simply reacted based on his insane paranoia over a percieved Orlesian threat and made bad decision after bad decision hurting his own country time and again.

Also he'd obviously been planning to take over the country for some time given the steps he's taken before Ostagar such as wiping out the Couslands, poisoning Eamon and making deals with Uldred. I seriously wonder at how much the Orlesian threat was just an excuse for a grab at the throne.

Wouldn't reacting to Sparky Sparky Boom Mans blasts shockwaves allow them be able to catch the Vamps speed?

So I watched Kick Ass for the first time last night.

So umm....They needed two movies for this. Hit Girl's story and Kick Ass's story shouldn't be fused.

Hmmm, I think that a slightly boring main character and a much more interesting supporting character is a good thing personally. Too much of Hitgirl may have ruined the movie.

Its like the new POTC movie. Too much Jack Sparrow is bad. But when he's more the the sidelines when his job in the movie is to be awesome while the main characters actually do plot stuff and character stuff he works.

IDK, Kick-Ass needed Hitgirl in it imo.

But I mean, it is a comedy, but it really wants to have seriousness in it too. Way around that is to have two movies. It's still an enjoyable movie imo but I feel like they didn't need to be the same story.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
wtf SOL.

edit- I always feel pathetic when an old member posts here. It's like "Oh yeah welcome back to that one site you don't come to anymore because your real life is so awesome. Yeah.... I'm still posting here."

My sincerest apologies. :c

I've got a blog to run and a presidency to fulfill~

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes I can, because he still attacked them completely unprovoked. And as Nemebro pointed out, history proves that they are the greatest asset for fighting the darkspawn you can get. I'm not just damning him because he destroyed them, I'm damning him because of what a momumentally stupid thing that was to attempt. He had the barest of reasons to do so and was utterly unprovoked. And as I pointed out, doing so just increases the odds of Fereldan being invaded, as do all his actions. It was a stupendously idiotic thing for him to do and was a massive overreaction to a percieved threat. And, even if the 'Only Grey Wardens can stop an Archedemon' thing didn't exist, his actions still would have doomed the country. As I pointed out, there was no way Loghain could win that fight. By sacrificing so much of the army and Ostagar he fvcked his chances over. Game over. He loses.

The massive paranoia? The crazy choices he makes? Consorting with Blood Mages, slavers, murderers and traitors? Take your pick. Loghain does more than enough to show just how far he's fallen over the course of the game.

Alisatir may be whiny but at least he doesn't murder and enslave his own people and goes on to be a good king. Alistair is the great man, not Loghain.

Absolutely not. Making a diffiult decision does not make you a great man. Making the right decisions makes you a great man. Loghain did neither. He simply reacted based on his insane paranoia over a percieved Orlesian threat and made bad decision after bad decision hurting his own country time and again.

Also he'd obviously been planning to take over the country for some time given the steps he's taken before Ostagar such as wiping out the Couslands, poisoning Eamon and making deals with Uldred. I seriously wonder at how much the Orlesian threat was just an excuse for a grab at the throne.

I still don't think so it was all about taking out the archdemon before more darkspawn could be drawn to him and the threat got bigger than it was at that point. What you don't take into consideration is what would have happened had Loghain gotten involved and their combined forces still lost at Ostagar.

Loghain still firmly held power and consorting with blood mages, slavers, etc. has nothing to do with anything besides being morally wrong there's nothing to suggest those choices wouldn't or couldn't aid him to achieve his goals.

Alistair was a whiny emo the entire game. I did like him but man he didn't have the stomach for his lot in life and needed to be babied into it unlike Loghain who was all about taking control and making hard decisions while leaving morality out of it.

Loghain didn't have access to the information about the wardens being necessary against the archdemon and you know had he known his actions would have changed into a 180 because he does what's good for the country as he sees it.

If he had taken over he had the best interests of his country at heart. He wasn't someone who did evil for the sake of evil but did what he felt was in the country's best interests.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's called treachery and in war it was just a part of war that Loghain made a calculated decision to leave and fight another day.

He was in the end seeking to reunite it and whether he won or the warden it was going to be united for a common threat.

Uhm, yes they are spread out you fight some in rooms and others nearby. Usually the threat is something a party of four can take on. As usual you put your foot into your mouth and ignore the main part of the game where you fight darkspawn throughout.

Only when united by the archdemon do they pose a threat to a massive army. I mean come on man. If four party members can kill a crap ton imagine what a well trained army can do consisting of mages, golems, archers, mabari, and warriors. They'd eat them alive as they would be leaderless and rudderless. Only when an archdemon comes do they become a threat to the entire land as they have direction.

It's getting old explaining things to you when you're old enough to figure them out by now.

1. Treachery? To quote Cailan himself,"You will remember who is king." Cailan was not at war with Orlais, it was not treachery, and it was his decision to make, not Loghain's. Loghain was a butthurt fool. "Calculated decision?" Losing arguably the most defensible position in Fereldan and roughly a quarter of your standing military is a "calculated decision?" A moron would realise that's stupid, it's a shame Loghain didn't. If you also notice, the "strategies" employed by Loghain at the start of the battle were poor as well, he planned to leave Cailan and the Wardens to die from the start.

2. No, without the Warden, Fereldan would have remained splintered and fallen. The Warden brought the elves/werewolves, dwarves, the mages/templars, and the Redwall (Or whatever the province was called) military and combined it with the rest of Fereldan's military to combat the Darkspawn, and even then, they would have lost had they not been able to kill the Archdemon.

3. Are you referring to the Deep Roads? Because it was explicitly mentioned in Origins that the Deep Roads were mostly deserted by the Darkspawn when you went down there, since, you know, a lot of Fereldan's Darkspawn were topside due to the Blight. ๐Ÿ˜ And in 2, it was specifically mentioned that the Primeval Thaig was unusually light on Darkspawn, due to how abnormally deep it was. Plus it was filled with a bunch of golem-esque monsters and stuff. And I don't know if you noticed, but your four party members are all exceptional individuals. Most soldiers are not. Seriously, stop posting, stop exposing us to you.

4. If that was true the Dwarves would have wiped them out long ago. If the Darkspawn could be so easily wiped out, they would be. To argue against this is to be an idiot. Stop being an idiot. Also, unless you helped Oghren's wife, golems are not exactly commonplace. And Darkspawn are not as stupid as you think. As Flemeth says,"They are more cunning than they appear." Hell, Darkspawn Emissaries can speak, and are very intelligent. Powerful mages too. The Darkspawn have everything the mortal races do, only each one is overall superior to the average soldier, along with the Darkspawn being more numerous. They also tend to corrupt those they wound, let alone kill. The Darkspawn are not as easily defeated in the Deep Roads as you think.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Wouldn't reacting to Sparky Sparky Boom Mans blasts shockwaves allow them be able to catch the Vamps speed?

Sparky Sparky Boom Boom Man's shockwaves? Try Lightning bolts brah. 313

Zuko intercepted one.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Iroh could redirect lightning, something that would have ended Ozai had Aang maned up for a second.

Ozai likely wouldn't use Lightning against Iroh.

No seriously Quan, in Darkspawn Chronicles, an alternate timeline DLC where the Warden dies, the Darkspawn butcher everyone, and destroy Fereldan.

Stfu.

Also: http://burningbigbang.deviantart.com/art/HAWKULES-245467233

Quan, just going to point out that in Darkspawn Chronicles, the Warden dies. Guess what? Fereldan falls, its united armies butchered, and your party is slaughtered.

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Hurlock_Vanguard

Hurlock Vanguards are bred for the dual purpose of leading the thralls of the darkspawn army and serving the Archdemon.

haw haw

Originally posted by NemeBro
3. Are you referring to the Deep Roads? Because it was explicitly mentioned in Origins that the Deep Roads were mostly deserted by the Darkspawn when you went down there, since, you know, a lot of Fereldan's Darkspawn were topside due to the Blight. ๐Ÿ˜

Whoa wait seriously? This (first 30 secs) is deserted:

YouTube video

Holy Shit.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No seriously Quan, in Darkspawn Chronicles, an alternate timeline DLC where the Warden dies, the Darkspawn butcher everyone, and destroy Fereldan.

Stfu.

Also: http://burningbigbang.deviantart.com/art/HAWKULES-245467233

That link is pure win. I really need to play DA2, even if its not as good as Origins (at least its prettier. oh god, mage hats why).

Exactly. estahuh

Wut? ๐Ÿ˜

Hahahahahahaha mage hats.