Originally posted by NemeBroBased off of which tp feat is he faster ?
Only an idiot or a troll can think that.Ganondorf can push his head out of his body. Or just directly attack his soul with Twilight Magic, it doesn't matter.
Yes he was.
Link has never beaten Ganondorf without aid.
Avada Kedavra wouldn't even work, both Master Sword and Triforce of Courage protect against such magics. A Witch's charm protected Harry from the spell and rebounded it on Voldemort.
He was losing and ran away.
Dumbledore would of killed Voldemort if it were not for the Horcruxes.
He would not.
Voldemort will lose this fight as well.
Voldemort was killed twice by Harry, and was only ever a regional threat. Ganondorf never dies, and has succeeded. When Ganondorf won the battle before WW, the gods had to flood the planet to stop him.
Link has help with his quests and invariably has help in sealing Ganondorf.
He lost because he's an incompetent buffoon.
Not when he can wade through Voldemort's best spells.
Irrelevant.
Ganondorf could do the same in OoT and while possessing Zelda in TP.
Both can fly.
Push Voldy's head out of his body...based off of what ?
When did Dorf attack someone's soul in tp ? He didn't do so against zelda, link, or midna.
When did Harry best him in battle ? What movie ?
This is the most hypocritical post I've ever seen from you. Harry Potter had the most help in like the history of movies against Voldemort. My word Dumbledore, Snape, he had his friends, and the orders aiding him to take down Voldemort yet Link had aid. Priceless.
Link beat him one on one with a few weeks training.
Dumbledore was the one on the ground and Voldemort left after the orders showed up and Harry's goodness/love pushed Voldemort out of his body. Why would Voldemort stay and take on the orders along with Dumbledore ?
Based off of what ? What in the movies shows you Dumbledore held back ? I guess trying to drown someone in a bubble of water suggests holding back. Priceless.
Would too.
Voldemort would not only win he'd dominate.
Voldemort was only killed because of his mother's sacrifice and the only reason he died against Harry was due to Neville killing the snake. Harry never once bested him as Voldemort.
Dorf died in tp. Alternate timelines means alternate histories and alternate Dorfs so referencing another game after we see Dorf actually die against Link is purposely ignoring the game.
Here's the point. Link bests him in straight up combat. Dorf also has aid while Link pretty much takes on his entire army. No wizard can solo the deatheaters. Harry never bests him while one on one. Harry's fled from him and had aid from various characters whereas Link defeated Dorf on his own. One on one in a swordfight Link ultimately won. Link defeated each form and had aid prior to just like Harry had aid while an infant on but never bested Voldy even in the end the snake being killed is why Voldemort lost. Voldemort was also tricked and never the rightful ruler of the wand too and fought on despite all this.
I think having your entire army solo'd by one inexperienced kid with the same sword over and over again is the definition of idiot. Voldemort was outplayed by Dumbledore who lost his own life against him he was that formidable.
He can't wade through fiendfyre or the avada kedavra.
It shows he needs a horse to be fast. If he were as quickly as you portrayed why ride on a horse and not just teleport ? Voldemort's speed in flight is far faster than Dorf on a horse.
Dorf relies on a horse and rarely ever flies. In fact when does he fly ? I honestly can't recall him ever doing so though it's been a while since I played so I could be forgetting.
Originally posted by The ScenarioFiendfyre. That would destroy any phantom Dorf. Wasn't this just an oot feat as well so thus irrelevant here either way.
Ganondorf can also just summon 6 or 7 Phantom Ganons to protect himself or attack Voldemort. He's TK'd obects before, not to mention he can still reverse magical projectiles. It's likely he could just slap AK back at Voldemort.Fiendfyre, I doubt. Ganondorf's been hit by worse, and again he just swats magical blasts away. Can Voldemort destroy a castle?
I don't think so. When has Dorf sent back a continuous stream of energy in tp ? Again refresh my memory it has been a while.
You've already admitted it was Midna who destroyed the castle but it seems you have changed your mind yet again. There's no proof it was Dorf who did so.
Dumbledore easily blocks the Fiendfyre with a slash of his wand. Clearly experienced, powerful wizards have little difficulty contending with it. And no, the third stage of the final battle with TP Ganondorf includes multiple Phantom Ganons. (Not to mention Phantom Ganon is far from OoT-only, they're around in a lot of the games)
AK is not a continuous stream, it's a missile-like flash. Ganondorf excels at reflecting that sort of thing.
Originally posted by General KalieroDumbledore redirected it but had the most powerful wand in existence and was also one of the greatest wizards of all time and in the top 2 in this verse. It goes Voldemort/Dumbledore and then everyone else is looking on up at those two. Secondly, Dorf doesn't have a wand nor does he have Dumbedore's abilities.
Dumbledore easily blocks the Fiendfyre with a slash of his wand. Clearly experienced, powerful wizards have little difficulty contending with it. And no, the third stage of the final battle with TP Ganondorf includes multiple Phantom Ganons. (Not to mention Phantom Ganon is far from OoT-only, they're around in a lot of the games)AK is not a continuous stream, it's a missile-like flash. Ganondorf excels at reflecting that sort of thing.
Oh you're referring to the horse battle at the end ? I see no reason why this sort of tactic would succeed against Voldemort when someone with a bow and arrow and a horse was skillful enough to evade and based off of Voldemort's skill and abilities.
It can be a continuous stream as seen in goblet of fire.
Godamnit, Qanchi, I've not even seen the movies and I'm almost certain you're referring to the bullshit that occurs when a wand meets it's twin. Besides which point it wouldn't help since nothing suiggests AK would even harm Ganondorf, and isn't fast enough to hit him or powerful enough to breach his defenses.
In shot, 'FFS, Y U SO DUM'
Originally posted by ScreamPasteWhen was this ever alluded to as being able to shot as a continuous stream as opposed to one blast as due to the fact it's wand is it's twin. I guess a spell that oneshot kills it's opponent hasn't proven it can harm Dorf who has been killed by a sword.
Godamnit, Qanchi, I've not even seen the movies and I'm almost certain you're referring to the bullshit that occurs when a wand meets it's twin. Besides which point it wouldn't help since nothing suiggests AK would even harm Ganondorf, and isn't fast enough to hit him or powerful enough to breach his defenses.In shot, 'FFS, Y U SO DUM'
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based off of which tp feat is he faster ?Push Voldy's head out of his body...based off of what ?
When did Dorf attack someone's soul in tp ? He didn't do so against zelda, link, or midna.
Ganondorf dodges arrows in Twilight Princess. Also, there's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVYggDnaJgY#t=2m55s
(This covers being faster, stronger, etc.)
Dorf died in tp. Alternate timelines means alternate histories and alternate Dorfs so referencing another game after we see Dorf actually die against Link is purposely ignoring the game.
Timelines. We can't be sure if he's dead or not.
He can't wade through fiendfyre or the avada kedavra.
He's waded through worse than fiendfyre, and avada kedavra is still of questionable usefulness.
It shows he needs a horse to be fast. If he were as quickly as you portrayed why ride on a horse and not just teleport ? Voldemort's speed in flight is far faster than Dorf on a horse.
Ganondorf can move fast without a horse. He just uses it to be stylish.
Dorf relies on a horse and rarely ever flies. In fact when does he fly ? I honestly can't recall him ever doing so though it's been a while since I played so I could be forgetting.
He flew while possessing Zelda, and while doing his twilight mist trick. Also in his "god" form. Play OoT and you'll see more.
Fiendfyre. That would destroy any phantom Dorf. Wasn't this just an oot feat as well so thus irrelevant here either way.
As GK pointed out, no. Ganondorf summoned several Phantom Ganons during the horseback battle. What does it matter if they're destroyed? Their purpose is to be shields or distractions; if they are destroyed they've done their job. Ganondorf can just make 7 more with a wave of his hand.
I don't think so. When has Dorf sent back a continuous stream of energy in tp ? Again refresh my memory it has been a while.
I don't recall AK ever being a continuous stream, either. It's always a green bolt, the kind of thing Ganondorf is best at reflecting. Unless you're referring to the priori incantatem, which only really happens when 2 wands with twin cores are used against each other.
You've already admitted it was Midna who destroyed the castle but it seems you have changed your mind yet again. There's no proof it was Dorf who did so.
Where did I say that? Ganondorf tanked Midna destroying the castle, so unless Voldemort can get above that, he's not hurting Ganondorf with normal spells.
When was this ever alluded to as being able to shot as a continuous stream as opposed to one blast as due to the fact it's wand is it's twin. I guess a spell that oneshot kills it's opponent hasn't proven it can harm Dorf who has been killed by a sword.
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Priori_Incantatem
Not sure how else to show this.
AK is absolutely nothing like that Master Sword; flawed comparison. Regardless, the continuous stream doesn't seem to happen unless 2 spells are cast simultaneously, and they connect wands, which Ganondorf doesn't have. So AK is going to be a green bolt which Ganondorf is able to reflect.
That was a special case, because of the fact that Voldemort and Harry's wands were twins. Even Voldemort was taken off-guard by that happening, because that's not normal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Snape does so in half blood prince to shut the door, Voldemort tks Harry's wand out of his hand in order of the phoenix, he easily tk's a dead giant off the bridge in deathly hallows part 2. Tk seemed almost effortless for them as well. Umbridge also tk'd that centaur around and was choking him out. This is just off the top of my head.
No. There's no such thing as telekinesis in the HP universe. It doesn't exist any more than it does in our real world. That's all spell-casting. Wizards are capable of casting non-verbally. If you've actually read the books, you'd know that.
Don't try and claim you know anything about a book series if you haven't actually read it. If you're just basing your knowledge on the movies, then you don't know shit.
Wouldn't that be stripped from him as per forum rules?
Specifically:
'12. Certain characters are known to be omnipotent or invulnerable canonically. Examples of such are Pyron, whose actual limitations are not known, Pyramid Head, who is essentially an incorporeal manifestation of psychological issues, and Ganon, who cannot be defeated without the Master Sword and/or Light Arrows.
We will allow these characters only if the first post specifies that they have lost that unbeatable element, enough so that the opponent(s) have, at the very least, a chance of winning.'
Originally posted by Nephthys
Wouldn't that be stripped from him as per forum rules?Specifically:
'12. Certain characters are known to be omnipotent or invulnerable canonically. Examples of such are Pyron, whose actual limitations are not known, Pyramid Head, who is essentially an incorporeal manifestation of psychological issues, and Ganon, who cannot be defeated without the Master Sword and/or Light Arrows.
We will allow these characters only if the first post specifies that they have lost that unbeatable element, enough so that the opponent(s) have, at the very least, a chance of winning.'
Those are just the rules for this forum...not necessarily relevant. They aren't universal.
Priori Icantatem is indeed when the wands that share the same core do some contrived shit that lets people see so they can hear final requests and junk.
However, in the films, something similar occurs between Voldy and Dumbledore occurs as shown here:
So the film clearly portrays it differently. It can apparently be both a missle like projectile or a ki beam.
So yay. :3
Aura, AK is consistently green. The sustained lightning-like spell there is blue. That's not AK. Which is further supported by the fact that AK is an "unblockable" curse, in that there is no known spell that can intercept it (except in the case of Priori Incantatem). That's why it's so bloody dangerous.