Originally posted by ares834
She is also a giant spider and therefore loses all bad ass points. Glarung, now there is a villain who was bad ass. After being killed through trickery, he causes his assassin to commit suicide.Now, that's hardcore. Plus he is a dragon.
Dude, shut up. Spiders are awesome and you know it. 😬
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Morgoth still went out by himself to fight Fingolfin, who's brother took on an army of balrogs. =|
Only so he didn't look like a fool in front of his army. Plus he was taken down by Luthien... So lame.
A coward of a Valar, sure, but it would be a blatant lie to say that Morgoth would be afraid of anything and everything.
No one has said such nonsense. I have only said he was a coward.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Dude, shut up. Spiders are awesome and you know it. 😬
Dragons>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spiders.
Originally posted by FinalAnswerIf he was defeated then obviously he didn't win. 😐
Oh please.Morgoth was a ***** in that he knew fear, but, generally most of the time, he actually had something to be afraid of.
Whether it be giant spiders that take an army of balrogs to chase away, or the brother of a gai who took on said army of balrogs by himself, or the frigging host of the Valar.
Unlike all those losers though, Morgoth actually won, and was only defeated via Deus Ex Machina bullshit.
Originally posted by FinalAnswerAnd he lost. And went out like a *****.
All of Beleriand was under control. There was literally no nation left that could oppose him.Then, suddenly out of nowhere, the ****ing army of the gods arrives.
Hence, my point. All middle earth villain's suffer the same ***** fate. "huahuahua I have you right where I want y- WTF WHERED THAT COME FROM ARGH". Weither it be Grima with the knife in the back, or the Hobbit with the knife in the back, or the Hobbit with the ring. How many villains in Tolkien verse go out like a man?
Originally posted by ares834
Only so he didn't look like a fool in front of his army. Plus he was taken down by Luthien... So lame.No one has said such nonsense. I have only said he was a coward.
Dragons>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spiders.
Regardless, he didn't have to, and consider the fact that he still beat Fingolfin.
Luthien basically seduced him and cast a spell. Luthien is apparently the most beautiful of the Children of Eru, so that's not really surprising.
Kay.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
And he lost. And went out like a *****.Hence, my point. All middle earth villain's suffer the same ***** fate. "huahuahua I have you right where I want y- WTF WHERED THAT COME FROM ARGH". Weither it be Grima with the knife in the back, or the Hobbit with the knife in the back, or the Hobbit with the ring. How many villains in Tolkien verse go out like a man?
Yeah, pretty much every major Tolkien villain gets a very lame death. Even Gothmog, the Lord of the Balrgos, goes out like a b****. An Elf runs him through with his spiked helmet knocking him into a fountain where they drown... 😐
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
And he lost. And went out like a *****.Hence, my point. All middle earth villain's suffer the same ***** fate. "huahuahua I have you right where I want y- WTF WHERED THAT COME FROM ARGH". Weither it be Grima with the knife in the back, or the Hobbit with the knife in the back, or the Hobbit with the ring. How many villains in Tolkien verse go out like a man?
Considering it actually took the divine intervention of the Valar, as opposed to some random midget, stuff.
Funny enough, Morgoth actually was beating said army back with his loldragons, and prolly would have won, if not for Earendil and his Stan Bush bullshit. Like, this is a guy who killed a dragon that crushed a MOUNTAIN RANGE with its fall.
That said, apparently the first time Morgoth was captured by the Valar, he did infact fight against Tulkas in wrassling and lost. So, didn't go out like a ***** then. Only went out like a ***** after using all his power to permanently corrupt Arda, thus achieving one of his omnicidal goals.
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Regardless, he didn't have to, and consider the fact that he still beat Fingolfin.
So... He was still afraid to fight him. Ganon, for example, doesn't seem to be afraid to engage Link.
Luthien basically seduced him and cast a spell. Luthien is apparently the most beautiful of the Children of Eru, so that's not really surprising.
Yeah... And that doesn't stop it from being lame. You don't see Voldemort being seduced by Hemione do ya?
In the end, Morgoth is sitting in his tower shaking as the Host of Valar come to imprison him for eternity. In fact, there is no evidence that he even attempts to fight them off.
Originally posted by FinalAnswerAnd he still went out like a *****. I mean, you even just said that he did. So yah, he went out like a *****. Laem.
Considering it actually took the divine intervention of the Valar, as opposed to some random midget, stuff.Funny enough, Morgoth actually was beating said army back with his loldragons, and prolly would have won, if not for Earendil and his Stan Bush bullshit. Like, this is a guy who killed a dragon that crushed a MOUNTAIN RANGE with its fall.
That said, apparently the first time Morgoth was captured by the Valar, he did infact fight against Tulkas in wrassling and lost. So, didn't go out like a ***** then. Only went out like a ***** after using all his power to permanently corrupt Arda, thus achieving one of his omnicidal goals.
Originally posted by ares834
So... He was still afraid to fight him. Ganon, for example, doesn't seem to be afraid to engage Link.Yeah... And that doesn't stop it from being lame. You don't see Voldemort being seduced by Hemione do ya?
In the end, Morgoth is sitting in his tower shaking as the Host of Valar come to imprison him for eternity. In fact, there is no evidence that he even attempts to fight them off.
Considering how many times Link kicks his ass, maybe he should be. 😖hifty:
Hermione is not the most beautiful human in the world, to the point it's stated several times it's to a Slaanesh-esque bewitching point.
Considering at that point, frigging Sauron was stronger then him, there wasn't actually anything he could do. =|
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Considering how many times Link kicks his ass, maybe he should be. 😖hifty:
Toche...
Hermione is not the most beautiful human in the world, to the point it's stated several times it's to a Slaanesh-esque bewitching point.
The movies sure fooled me... 😮
Considering at that point, frigging Sauron was stronger then him, there wasn't actually anything he could do. =|
True... But he could have been a bad ass and at least tried, hell even trying to escape would have been better. Instead, he just cowers in his throne room.
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
It's still better then anything any of the other LotR villains have done.Or Voldemort, for that matter.
True. But I'm not arguing that Morgoth isn't an effective villain (he clearly is) but rather that he is not manly and is instead a coward.
Originally posted by ares834
True... But he could have been a bad ass and at least tried, hell even trying to escape would have been better. Instead, he just cowers in his throne room.
To be fair, try to imagine your in Morgoth's shoes. Congratulations, you have just destroyed and killed pretty much anyone standing in your way. O wait, for some reason, the armies of the Gods themselves are coming. No problem, your armies are without number, to the point your domain can no longer hold them. Oh, wait, this apparently is some sort of uber army, and your endless fields of orcs are slaughtered and all but a few of your balrogs are slain. Well, time to unleash your secret weapon, t3h dragons. Yes! You're beating them back, perhaps you'll win afte- oh no wait, Earendil has come in his magical flying ship of doom, and has somehow managed to kill a dragon that makes him look like an ant in comparison. All your dragons are now dead or fleeing, and that dragon I was talking about? Yeah, he just fell on your fortress and broke it. Welp, looks like you now have the survivors of the people you just spend ages tormenting and trolling to deal with. Have fun with that.