He said he agreed with what Shaw was doing and only had a beef with him because Shaw killed his mother.
Shaw planned to commit complete genocide on the entire human race, killing them all in a nuclear holocaust, which he believed would further empower the mutants and allow them to become the dominant species.
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He said he agreed with what Shaw had said about mutants being the future, not that he thought nuclear war was fantastic. If he did he probably would have let Shaw go through with it and then kill him. Shaws plan was ****ing insane. Magneto never says that he wants to kill all humans.
And even if he did the humans made it very clear that they wanted to kill all the mutants.
**** YEAR SEAKING ****ERS!
Originally posted by Nephthys
He said he agreed with what Shaw had said about mutants being the future, not that he thought nuclear war was fantastic. If he did he probably would have let Shaw go through with it and [b]then kill him. Shaws plan was ****ing insane. Magneto never says that he wants to kill all humans.And even if he did the humans made it very clear that they wanted to kill all the mutants. [/B]
No, he agreed with Shaw in general silly. He also has no problem with killing millions of innocent humans, as seen in the first X-Man movie. Also, uh, if Shaw went through with that, Magneto would be dead, and Shaw would be essentially unstoppable.
Right, because every human made it clear that they were all unmoveable in their mutant-killing stance.
Only we see that some humans see the potential in the mutants.
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Originally posted by NemeBro
No, he agreed with Shaw in general silly. He also has no problem with killing millions of innocent humans, as seen in the first X-Man movie. Also, uh, if Shaw went through with that, Magneto would be dead, and Shaw would be essentially unstoppable.Right, because every human made it clear that they were all unmoveable in their mutant-killing stance.
Only we see that some humans see the potential in the mutants.
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Nah man. He specifically says afterwards that he wants to protect mutants, not kill humans.
When did Magneto try to kill millions of humans in the first movie? He tried to turn them into mutants, not kill them. And when he was told the process was lethal he just didn't believe them.
I don't know how Mags would have died if that ship had passed that blockade but ok.
They see the potential in mutants and then try to blow them up anyway. And well if we're counting the rest of the movies then erm, no. In the entire franchise I believe we only ever see Moira and that fat guy working with the mutants. And Moira never actually seemed to give a shit about mutant rights, she just wanted to stop Shaw. Other than two people theres diddly squat about humans accepting mutants. Thats one of the problems with the movies; Xavier talks a good game but at no point do we see his ideals become a reality. Magneto is always right.
First Class: The humans turn on them at the first opportunity and try to kill them.
X-Men: If not for Mystique imitating Senator Kelly being a mutant would probably be illegal.
X-Men 2: Striker tries to kill every mutant in the world. Xavier has to bully the President into not hunting down all the mutants.
X-Men Last Stand: The Cure is weaponised almost immediately.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Nah man. He specifically says afterwards that he wants to protect mutants, not kill humans.When did Magneto try to kill millions of humans in the first movie? He tried to turn them into mutants, not kill them. And when he was told the process was lethal he just didn't believe them.
No, he believed them, but was fine with it.
Oh, and then there is the second movie, where he specifically had Magneto mentally focus on the humans, to kill them.
I don't know how Mags would have died if that ship had passed that blockade but ok.
Stfu.
They see the potential in mutants and then try to blow them up anyway. And well if we're counting the rest of the movies then erm, no. In the entire franchise I believe we only ever see Moira and that fat guy working with the mutants. And Moira never actually seemed to give a shit about mutant rights, she just wanted to stop Shaw. Other than two people theres diddly squat about humans accepting mutants. Thats one of the problems with the movies; Xavier talks a good game but at no point do we see his ideals become a reality. Magneto is always right.
Not all do boyo, you are taking examples from limited reference pools. And you forget that the problem isn't just that "humans hate mutants," it is that common perception of mutants are mutants like, you guessed it, Magneto and his Brotherhood of Mutants. Magneto fosters a negative perception of mutants and undermines Xavier's efforts.
First Class: The humans turn on them at the first opportunity and try to kill them.
True, that was a bad move.
X-Men: If not for Mystique imitating Senator Kelly being a mutant would probably be illegal.
Yeah how dare Kelly try to regulate mutants and keep society safe from misuse of their powers?
The racism analogy fails, honestly. Regulation of mutants is necessary, when you consider the incredible powers many have
X-Men 2: Striker tries to kill every mutant in the world. Xavier has to bully the President into not hunting down all the mutants.
Stryker. Aka: One guy, with a history of mutant-hating.
X-Men Last Stand: The Cure is weaponised almost immediately.
Gee I wonder why? Perhaps it could be because large-scale mutant organizations have on several occasions attempted to terrorise society?
They are completely justified when you consider like a week later Magneto performed a large-scale mutant assault.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Well, in the comics that should definitely be true, but in the movies them stopping him isn't exactly well-known.
At one point in the comics Magneto takes over a country and doesn't oppress humans at all.
In fact Magneto actually lead the X-Men for quite a while in the comics after Xavier 'died'.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No, he believed them, but was fine with it.Oh, and then there is the second movie, where he specifically had Magneto mentally focus on the humans, to kill them.
TVTropes says otherwise. estahuh
Only after Stryker tried to kill all the mutants.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Stfu.
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Originally posted by NemeBro
Not all do boyo, you are taking examples from limited reference pools. And you forget that the problem isn't just that "humans hate mutants," it is that common perception of mutants are mutants like, you guessed it, Magneto and his Brotherhood of Mutants. Magneto fosters a negative perception of mutants and undermines Xavier's efforts.
Perhaps. I don't think the movies ever go into details about it tbh. But from the limited reference pools which we have Xavier still comes off as hopelessly naive and his ideals aren't justified.
Originally posted by NemeBro
True, that was a bad move.
You would have thought saving the entire planet would count for something. Morons.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah how dare Kelly try to regulate mutants and keep society safe from misuse of their powers?The racism analogy fails, honestly. Regulation of mutants is necessary, when you consider the incredible powers many have.
If by regulate you mean 'round up' then sure. And your point would have some merit if this wasn't the Marvel universe and anyone with a triple digit IQ couldn't create a supersuit in their kitchen. Should they start 'regulating' smart people as well?
Originally posted by NemeBro
Stryker. Aka: One guy, with a history of mutant-hating.
That one guy almost genocided the entire mutant race. At that point Magneto could easily justify himself as acting in self-defence. The next time a crazy military guy tries to kill them all Mags might not get there in time.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Gee I wonder why? Perhaps it could be because large-scale mutant organizations have on several occasions attempted to terrorise society?They are completely justified when you consider like a week later Magneto performed a large-scale mutant assault.
Yes, I agree that theres a certain element of mutual blame in the matter. But as First Class showed the humans are prepared to attack even those helping them at the first opportunity. As Magneto says 'Peace was never an option'. Nothing in the movies contradicts this.