Originally posted by ArhaelWell that's actually kind of funny about that is that the person who made the joke that started this topic immediately apologized after making it. So it isn't really a matter of men not wanting to apologize so much as it's a matter of some people being insane and not wanting to let things go.
+1Seems like, nowadays, guys are stingy for a simple apology to a girl and prefer to utilize their highly intellectual rationality instead.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelI think FDR did more good for the country as President, but Eisenhour was just a cool dude in general. I love his speech about the military-industrial complex.
Eisenhour, man of the hour!He are cool guy.
FDR are cooler guy. But cheated on his wife so that makes him less cool.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelThat's the irony about the women's rights movement in general. You have all these people talking about how hard it is to be a woman and how unfair it is, while on the other hand there are a huuuuge swath of women who believe that a lot of the issues are overblown or dramatized.
Funniest thing about this is that JesuOtaku thinks women don't have as many problems as they tend to think they do./irony.
I think it's a balance of the two, personally. There are a lot of ways in which are women are treated unfairly in this society. On the other hand, a lot of those issues are made worse by other women, not men, and women have quite a few perks in society that men don't have. I can't win over an employer in an interview just by wearing a low cut blouse and a skirt, for example, nor can I beat up a woman and laugh as the police come and haul her away, even though I was the aggressor.
It works both ways.
Originally posted by NemeBro
You can't comprehend what you read.My issue was that you believe that any given woman has more "right" to be offended by something (Rape in this case) than any given man.
And they do, just as I would say that a Jew has more of a right to be offended about a Holocaust joke than others. Or a black person has more of a right to be offended by being called the n-word than a white or asian person.
Of course people are individuals, you can't genralise etc. But I don't see whats wrong with my belief.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
No specific group is the target of rape, either. It happens to both genders.
I've explained this twice. Overwhelmingly, women are the target of rape.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Rape has been illegal longer than slavery has. Please don.t say stupid things. Are you seriously trying to say that black people arent discrminated against and oppressed on a daily basis? LOL.
In the case of an actual joke about slavery, I would agree that a black person has just as much of a right to be offended. In your case though it wasn't an intentional joke about whipping a black person at all. So your point was invalid anyway.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
So it's okay to joke about rape so long as neither persons have been raped. That's terrible logic.
Naturally, it's yours. I, however, didn't say anything like that. The fact is that the odds of either one of us, as men, being raped outside of prison are incredibly small. Rape isn't a situation we face.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
The only people who would think that are people who don't understand basic english.
Charming.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
You don't need to tell me that your argument is nonsensical and based off of nothing but your own feelings on the matter. I can figure that out just by reading that.
Oh look, insults. That certainly proves that you're the cool, logical one.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
This is a huge knee jerking strawman.
I'm simply saying that a man telling a woman how to feel about a crime that primarily targets women is pretty absurd. If Zam started to make racist comments and you got offended, I would be uncomfortable to tell you that you've no right to be offended. I'm white, I have no right at all to talk about racial discrimination, something I've no experience in. Just like you or I don't really have a right to talk on the current subject. I'll probably stop after this.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Many people do. But you don't care about that unless they're women.Many people do. But you don't care about that unless they're women.
Many of them do. Especially those who have been raped. But you don't care about that unless they're women.
If someone is offended about something, then of course I'd care. I hoped that you would know me better by now. Ask DDM, there was a thread about whether it counts as rape if a teacher has sex with an underage boy that I posted in once. To be honest I was so angry at teh people claiming that it didn't and that they'd love to have a teacher like that, that I quite lost my cool. I got pretty angry at him. Frankly, the subject of rape is one that seriously affects me. No mater the gender of the participant.
However, that doesn't stop me from believing that in this case, women do have the right t be offended on this subject moreso than men do, based on the history of sexual violence they've endured as well as the reality of rape that they face today.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Many of them don't. I know several of them personally.
And thats ok. I'm concerned that I might be generalising a bit and overstepping my bounds in the argument. Obviously I'm not a women, but I'm trying to argue the point anyway. Just like obviously not all women will take offense to coarse rape jokes. JesuOtaku didn't seem to. I'm just saying that its completely understandable if they are.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
This is an ironic discussion because you're basically arguing that women deserve special treatment because they are irrational, illogical, and overly emotional. That's really empowering for females. 👆
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
This is a huge knee jerking strawman.
Originally posted by NephthysAnd men get murdered more than women do. But you've already stated that that's unimportant so long as both groups experience it. So which is it? You're arguing both sides of the coin now.
[B]I've explained this twice. Overwhelmingly, women are the target of rape.
In the case of an actual joke about slavery, I would agree that a black person has just as much of a right to be offended. In your case though it wasn't an intentional joke about whipping a black person at all. So your point was invalid anyway.It's not about slavery, it's about oppression. You said that men shouldn't make sex jokes to women because there is a history of women being oppressed by men. I pointed out that by that logic, no one should make "whipping" jokes to black people because there is a history of black people being whipped. It's the exact same thing, yet in your mind there's this arbitrary distinction that makes one of them okay and one of them. That's crazy.
Naturally, it's yours. I, however, didn't say anything like that. The fact is that the odds of either one of us, as men, being raped outside of prison are incredibly small. Rape isn't a situation we face.What difference do the odds makes? That's incredibly arbitrary. The fact is that rape is something both genders experience. And in San Francisco, it''s been noted that as homosexuality and bi-sexuality becomes more accepted, the amount of same-sex rapes is increasing. So your point that it's "primarily a girl thing" is becoming increasingly untrue.
I'm simply saying that a man telling a woman how to feel about a crime that primarily targets women is pretty absurd.And my point is that no one in this thread has done so. My entire message in the last two pages isn't that a woman can't dislike sexual jokes. My point is that the idea that it''s okay for a woman to make sexual jokes while a man can not is stupid.
However, that doesn't stop me from believing that in this case, women do have the right t be offended on this subject moreso than men do, based on the history of sexual violence they've endured as well as the reality of rape that they face today.Which makes no sense considering that rape and oppression is not gender-exclusive, and never has been.
EDIT- Sorry GK, I was in the posting screen when you said that. I'll drop it.
Yeah, that was my biggest question. Actually, all my questions:
Spoiler:
How does bloodbending someone's forehead seal their bending?If we assume that somehow works, why did bloodbending Korra give her the only bending ability she hadn't mastered?
The mentality of airbending is one of grace, freedom, smoothness and balance. Why can Korra just go against all that and airbend with a punching fist?
How the hell does spirit-Aang just magically undo Amon's unexplained bending block?
Why the hell do all of Korra's clearly serious emotional issues dissolve away the instant she can bend again? It just doesn't work that way.
Why wasn't there more Bolin? Why wasn't there more Bolin?! He was criminally underused.