Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Which is funny, because most RE fans I saw generally weren't very optimistic of the game.
I saw a lot of people that were fans and iffy about it but bought it anyway cos it was RE.
I also saw a lot that went "oh they're just haters" in response to the mediocre reviews. So yeah.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
It is weird. RE5 is also considered one of the lower points in the franchise; and yet it's the best selling game of the franchise, even after inflation.
Who exactly considers RE5 the lowest point in the franchise? I realize that it doesn't quite have the hype that say, RE2 had at the time, but this is such a sweeping generalization. If anything, many people that I've known became first-time RE players as of 5, because the changes started by RE4 were fleshed out more and thus the game appealed to a greater number of players, both old and new.
The only complaints I've seen were the people who loved the "survival horror" aspect (emphasis on being helpless, backtracking endlessly, solving tons of puzzles - gee, sounds like Silent Hill) and haven't quite wrapped their mind around the fact that as the RE universe gets more and more expanded, it will become less and less scary by extension.
I mean, how many dogs can you chuck through windows before people stop flinching?
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Who exactly considers RE5 the lowest point in the franchise? I realize that it doesn't quite have the hype that say, RE2 had at the time, but this is such a sweeping generalization. If anything, many people that I've known became first-time RE players as of 5, because the changes started by RE4 were fleshed out more and thus the game appealed to a greater number of players, both old and new.The only complaints I've seen were the people who loved the "survival horror" aspect (emphasis on being helpless, backtracking endlessly, solving tons of puzzles - gee, sounds like Silent Hill) and haven't quite wrapped their mind around the fact that as the RE universe gets more and more expanded, it will become less and less scary by extension.
I mean, how many dogs can you chuck through windows before people stop flinching?
The problem is it didn't even try retaining the horror atmosphere present in 4, it's more or less "Generic Third Person Shooter #65".
Which is why 6 looks to be better then 5, because they have both the action aspect of 5 in there involving Chris, and the horror atmosphere of 4 and earlier games with Leon.
Originally posted by -Pr-
5 was better than Code Veronica, though if anyone genuinely thinks 5 was the low-point in the series, they obviously hadn't played Gun Survivor...
Amen to that. It didn't even have light-gun support in this part of the world.
The problem is it didn't even try retaining the horror atmosphere present in 4, it's more or less "Generic Third Person Shooter #65".Which is why 6 looks to be better then 5, because they have both the action aspect of 5 in there involving Chris, and the horror atmosphere of 4 and earlier games with Leon.
Aside from the night-time village, the fourth installment wasn't very scary either. More grim and gritty than anything. But I still don't understand the complaints of "RE5 wasn't true survival horror" as a valid excuse to put down the game when RE 5 made the first ridiculously replayable game in the franchise, was the first to have DLC with a genuine survival horror map included (anyone who plays the Chris/Jill sidestory on highest difficulty knows what I'm talking about), and paved the way for RE titles that were actually fun to play.
I mean, the storyline is progressing as the heroes are now going on the offensive. You can't have them running around every locale with three bullets, looking for the Gem of Unlocking to go into the Rectum of Fury so you can go into the library and procure the Silver-ish Key to unlock the Silver-ish door. Silent Hill provides a superior survival horror series anyways. Why should RE try to compete?
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Amen to that. It didn't even have light-gun support in this part of the world.Aside from the night-time village, the fourth installment wasn't very scary either. More grim and gritty than anything. But I still don't understand the complaints of "RE5 wasn't true survival horror" as a valid excuse to put down the game when RE 5 made the first ridiculously replayable game in the franchise, was the first to have DLC with a genuine survival horror map included (anyone who plays the Chris/Jill sidestory on highest difficulty knows what I'm talking about), and paved the way for RE titles that were actually fun to play.
I mean, the storyline is progressing as the heroes are now going on the offensive. You can't have them running around every locale with three bullets, looking for the Gem of Unlocking to go into the Rectum of Fury so you can go into the library and procure the Silver-ish Key to unlock the Silver-ish door. Silent Hill provides a superior survival horror series anyways. Why should RE try to compete?
Agreed on #4. People talk about it like it was survival horror start to finish, when it really wasn't imo. Heck, the Resident Evil series, from the start, has been slowly transitioning, having less surival horror and more action.
Anyone remember what it was like to have more bullets than you needed when playing RE2?
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Aside from the night-time village, the fourth installment wasn't very scary either. More grim and gritty than anything. But I still don't understand the complaints of "RE5 wasn't true survival horror" as a valid excuse to put down the game when RE 5 made the first ridiculously replayable game in the franchise, was the first to have DLC with a genuine survival horror map included (anyone who plays the Chris/Jill sidestory on highest difficulty knows what I'm talking about), and paved the way for RE titles that were actually fun to play.I mean, the storyline is progressing as the heroes are now going on the offensive. You can't have them running around every locale with three bullets, looking for the Gem of Unlocking to go into the Rectum of Fury so you can go into the library and procure the Silver-ish Key to unlock the Silver-ish door. Silent Hill provides a superior survival horror series anyways. Why should RE try to compete?
Disagree, everything had that tense, dark atmosphere from the moment you booted the game until about when you reached the island, when it started veering in and out between action and horror (Dem Regenerators). And no, RE5 wasn't true Survival Horror imo, I never ran out of ammo unless I was on Professional, the enemies weren't as horrific and threatening as the creatures in past RE games, I never felt that tense, threatening atmosphere I felt in 4, I have replayed RE4 way more times then RE5 (Mainly because I think the actual main game is so much better) and I have curbstomped through Lost in Nightmares with little difficulty.
The storyline is the same B-Grade nonsense as past RE titles, except now they butchered the only legitimately interesting character with any depth and turned him into a cookie cutter bad gai, and it's not that RE should try competing against Silent Hill (Which has been going downhill since 4, mind you), simply that it should retain the dark, horror, tense atmosphere that was in 4 but I found lacking in 5, which I believe 6 will attempt to get back into.
I loved Wesker in 5, so you shut your biased mouth. He's never been deep; he's always been your typical "crafty villain" but with the virus shtick.
RE5 was just plain fun. I'd rather praise a game for being genuinely entertaining to play than ticking off all the marks on a list of genre requirements.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
I loved Wesker in 5, so you shut your biased mouth. He's never been deep; he's always been your typical "crafty villain" but with the virus shtick.RE5 was just plain fun. I'd rather praise a game for being genuinely entertaining to play than ticking off all the marks on a list of genre requirements.
Wesker was awesome and hammy in 5, yes, but he essentially lost his manipulative, puppet-master schtick, dumbed down a bit, raped his background (Yo, you're part of some bizarre Les Enfantes Terribles Project to make Spencer gawd, all your skills and physical capabilities is because we manufactured you that way, and hey, you're a total ***** to ALEX Wesker sneer ) and overall, instead of being a power hungry, manipulative evil ******* who worked his way to the top from the bottom, nope everything he did was JUST AS PLANNED, and he wants to be godking of the planet.
Don't get me wrong, RE5 was fun and a legitimately good game, it's just inferior to RE4 as far as being a RE game, in that it lacks the tense, dark horror atmosphere of the rest of the series.
imo