ALL OF MY ****ING FURY, ALL OF IT.
To be fair the Joker was inside a building surrounded by SWAT doing his 'social experiment' and then in police custody at the time Harvey was going around killing people.
I mean, the police start chasing Batman right after Harvey dies, so its not like people weren't around when it happened. They're bound to know that the Joker couldn't possibly have killed Harvey, at least.
At that point in the story the Joker had basically become a god of chaos that seemed not to have limits. I wouldn't question it. Besides, he did tell the police that he was gonna kill Harvey Dent.
To me it's simple enough. Gotham has three choices:
1. Believe Harvey killed them. Yeah, the guy half burnt to hell just started waltzing around killing people. It may be what happened but even I wouldn't believe it.
2. Batman did it. Batman hasn't killed anyone. Sure he's mysterious but him killing Dent after he helped protect the guy would seem suspect. Dent was the most fervent about protecting Batman from the Joker in the first place.
3. Joker did it. Dude has been shown to kill anyone, any time he pleases and is currently someone all of Gotham hates. Even if someone got suspicious, they aren't likely to care that much lol.
You kidding? Of course they'd care. People are still fangasming over Dent 8 years in the future. His murder would be heavily talked about. And you can be sure that pretty much anyone could figure out that the Joker couldn't possibly have teleported half-way across Gotham and snapped Dents neck while surrounded by SWAT and doing his experiment.
Are you suggesting that they could pretend that the Joker had broken Dents neck remotely, or done it at a different time? That wouldn't work, they'd need need to fudge the autopsy report about the time and manner of death (on top of there being no way to remotely kill him at the crime scene). And then the coroner would be a major loose end. And if they don't do an autopsy then the problem still exists of no-one knowing how the Joker could have killed him and questioning the story. You might be able to blame Dent's own murders on the Joker, but not Dents death itself.
I suppose you could say that Batman was going to kill them too but had to flee when the police/Gordan showed up.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Are you suggesting that they could pretend that the Joker had broken Dents neck remotely, or done it at a different time? That wouldn't work, they'd need need to fudge the autopsy report about the time and manner of death (on top of there being no way to remotely kill him at the crime scene). And then the coroner would be a major loose end. And if they don't do an autopsy then the problem still exists of no-one knowing how the Joker could have killed him and questioning the story. You might be able to blame Dent's own murders on the Joker, but not Dents death itself.I suppose you could say that Batman was going to kill them too but had to flee when the police/Gordan showed up.
For the last time, the Joker himself doesn't need to be the one they blame the physical killing on. He could have had a henchmen do it. Batman and Gordon say that the Joker had a guy clear up loose ends by killing Dent(and his moles in the police and Mafia to prevent tracking back to the Joker) and getting back at Gordon by killing his family. The guy kills Dent but leaves because he has a radio and someone calls him, saying the Joker just got beat by Batman, so he leaves the family there. Sure, the autopsy would need to be flubbed(or not, depending on how exactly long it takes for it to make a difference in time of death) but all in all it's easier to blame the Joker than Batman.
Again, the police had already surrounded the place before Dent died, and after Gordan went in it was ages before he called the awaiting police in, plus there were gunshots fired. The building wasn't big enough for those not to be heard. If this supposed guy had already left before the cops even arrived (and remember that Gordan was called by his wife before the Joker was even taken out, so he would have had the place surrounded for a while), then those gunshots plus the time it took for Gordan to call the all clear make no sense.
Also if they say that it was a man who's still at large then it would lead to an investigation and examination of the crime scenes etc. Especially since it was Dent plus two cops murdered. They'd need to not only flub the autopsy but also the evidence. Eventually it would be linked back to Dent. Gordan explicitly says at the time '5 dead, 2 of them cops, you can't just sweep this up'. Only Batman, who leaves no evidence ever, could take the blame and have the fact that there's no evidence not be suspicious.
Considering how much you've had to bend over explaining how the Joker could have done it and how much they'd need to work on the lie, it really wouldn't be easier to blame the Joker.
Batman had ample opportunity, since he's running around with Lucius tracking the joker while Dent is murdering those people, so his location isn't known, and all the murders where done before he shows up to fight the Joker.
He murders all those people, kidnaps Dent and Gordans family, shows up and takes out the Joker and then goes back and kills Dent.