Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Don't want to spoil it. But, basically, the writing and plot for the film was trash. Zod's entire motivation for fighting Superman and trying to beat up Earth was trash. The best part of the movie was the fight scenes (which were phenomenal, <3 Feora), but even they were just CGI fests that got repetitive after about 5 minutes.
Well I'm sorry you didn't like the movie Blax. But how is
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terraforming
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Zod got the terraforming device... from an already terraformed planet that a Krypton colony was on. Even if the planet wasn't already terraformed, why not just terraform that one? Or any of the planets that Zod must have found on his 30 year quest to Earth? Jor-El stated in the beginning that there were a number of already created Krpyton colonies, and once you establish that you have this magical device capable of creating atmospheres anywhere, opting to instead kill a kryptonian (which is one out of only 12 that still exist in the galaxy- for a man who was obsessed with saving his race, he sure was quick to take the one route that could lead to losing several of the few that are still alive) so that you're free to massacre one specific planet's population and terraform it is retarded. If Zod had explained to Superman that he needed access to his cells to save the Krypton race, and had a device capable of terraforming a planet to have a Kryptonian atmosphere, Clark would have probably jumped at the chance to help save his race, and 3/4ths of the movie's events could have been avoided. For the "top general" on Krypton, Zod was incredibly stupid.
Originally posted by Tzeentch._Spoiler:
Zod got the terraforming device... from an already terraformed planet that a Krypton colony was on. Even if the planet wasn't already terraformed, why not just terraform that one? Or any of the planets that Zod must have found on his 30 year quest to Earth? Jor-El stated in the beginning that there were a number of already created Krpyton colonies, and once you establish that you have this magical device capable of creating atmospheres anywhere, opting to instead kill a kryptonian (which is one out of only 12 that still exist in the galaxy- for a man who was obsessed with saving his race, he sure was quick to take the one route that could lead to losing several of the few that are still alive) so that you're free to massacre one specific planet's population and terraform it is retarded. If Zod had explained to Superman that he needed access to his cells to save the Krypton race, and had a device capable of terraforming a planet to have a Kryptonian atmosphere, Clark would have probably jumped at the chance to help save his race, and 3/4ths of the movie's events could have been avoided. For the "top general" on Krypton, Zod was incredibly stupid.
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Well what if the terraforming machine was as picky as Galactus and could only work on a planet that already supports life? Also those outposts were long dead and they would still need the codex things from Super-dupes. With that said I do agree that from that angle Zod's plan might seem a bit stupid but he was doing what he was genetically breed to do so I guees it works.
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What if Zod only did what he did because he was being mind-controlled by Chthulu? We can all provide our own fan theories to cover gaping plot holes in a film, but that doesn't excuse plot holes. There was never any explanation or justification given for why Zod was dead-set on terraforming Earth and only Earth, to the point where he'd be willing to kill another Kryptonian and possibly even destroy the one chance they have at rebuilding their race (because how much of superman's body would need to be intact in order for his cells to be extracted? If his body was damaged beyond the point of recovery than they would be screwed). The outposts themselves were fine. It was the Kryptonians who were living there who had all died of starvation- if they have a spaceship then it would have been no difficult task to fly Superman to one of the outposts, or for that matter any other planet.
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Zod's role as a soldier is what made him inclined to use violence in general, but it didn't make him a rabid dog who preferred violence over everything else. Case in point, if he was a violent psychopath, he wouldn't have bothered trying to recruit Superman first- he would have just tried to kill him right from the start. The film depicted him, up to the point where he decides to kill superman and murder humanity, as an "ends justify the means" pragmatist who's willing to use violence if it offers the most efficient solution. In the case of his major plan, asking Superman to help him terraform another planet was much more efficient and logical than "ask Superman to help me murder these creatures he's lived amongst for his entire life, and kill him if he doesn't".
Originally posted by Tzeentch._Spoiler:
What if Zod only did what he did because he was being mind-controlled by Chthulu? We can all provide our own fan theories to cover gaping plot holes in a film, but that doesn't excuse plot holes. There was never any explanation or justification given for why Zod was dead-set on terraforming Earth and only Earth, to the point where he'd be willing to kill another Kryptonian and possibly even destroy the one chance they have at rebuilding their race (because how much of superman's body would need to be intact in order for his cells to be extracted? If his body was damaged beyond the point of recovery than they would be screwed). The outposts themselves were fine. It was the Kryptonians who were living there who had all died of starvation- if they have a spaceship then it would have been no difficult task to fly Superman to one of the outposts, or for that matter any other planet.Spoiler:
Zod's role as a soldier is what made him inclined to use violence in general, but it didn't make him a rabid dog who preferred violence over everything else. Case in point, if he was a violent psychopath, he wouldn't have bothered trying to recruit Superman first- he would have just tried to kill him right from the start. The film depicted him, up to the point where he decides to kill superman and murder humanity, as an "ends justify the means" pragmatist who's willing to use violence if it offers the most efficient solution. In the case of his major plan, asking Superman to help him terraform another planet was much more efficient and logical than "ask Superman to help me murder these creatures he's lived amongst for his entire life, and kill him if he doesn't".
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He flat out doesn't give a shit about humanity one bit which is why he's so dead set on terraforming earth (it would just be easier, as he said). And those already terraformed planets looked pretty desolute and its retarded to hinge your races survival on a planet were the people had already been wiped out. Its implied that it was due to something hostile as well, since as I recall they found some corpses holding guns. As for killing Supes, you're assuming that he actually wanted to keep him alive and seriously wanted his help. Remember his big 'I WILL FIND HIM!' spaz attack at the start of the movie? Kal was an abomination in his eyes, a natural birth. He knew Kal wouldn't agree and was just looking for an excuse to kill/lock him up.
Originally posted by NephthysSpoiler:
He flat out doesn't give a shit about humanity one bit which is why he's so dead set on terraforming earth (it would just be easier, as he said). And those already terraformed planets looked pretty desolute and its retarded to hinge your races survival on a planet were the people had already been wiped out. Its implied that it was due to something hostile as well, since as I recall they found some corpses holding guns. As for killing Supes, you're assuming that he actually wanted to keep him alive and seriously wanted his help. Remember his big 'I WILL FIND HIM!' spaz attack at the start of the movie? Kal was an abomination in his eyes, a natural birth. He knew Kal wouldn't agree and was just looking for an excuse to kill/lock him up.
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Not giving a shit =\= malice, which is what would be required since fighting off an entire planet's combined military with a single ship and trying to kill a superpowered kryptonian who's formed an emotional bond with said planetary population is not easier than simply asking the kryptonian to help terraform and re-colonize any of the other thousands of planets out there. How destitute a planet looks is irrelevent because, woah, YOU HAVE A ****ING TERRAFORMING DEVICE. He could have turned any planet into a paradise had he chosen to do so. Holding guns =\= an implied alien invasion, wtf? That Zod himself said that the colonies ran out of supplies once Krypton blew is all the context we need for what happened to those planets. What do you think happens when people begin to starve? Riots, backstabbing, martial law etc.
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Zod had zero intention of killing Superman before Clark blew him off. Know how I know that? Because Zod spent 30 years traveling to Earth, planning on what he was going to do, and yet it wasn't until after Superman chose to defend Earth instead of helping Zod that Zod asked his scientist flunky if it was possible to extract Superman's cells even if he was dead. If it had been Zod's plan to kill Superman from the start, then he wouldn't have waited 30 years to ask that question.Killing Superman was a last resort, and that's logical considering that there's only like 12 ****ing Kryptonians left alive in the entire galaxy, including Superman.
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Murdering all of humanity with Superman's help isn't getting revenge on anything, not to mention he had nothing to get revenge for. He'd already killed Jor-El. Also, the film itself makes no implication that Zod was consumed by revenge. His final monologue speal makes it clear that his #1 priority, above all else, was to ensure the survival of his race. If it wasn't for his ruthless methods, it'd be a very noble motive.
