To Love God is to Hate who ?

Some Christians, Muslims, Jews, or people other monotheistic faiths, even some Athiests, beleive that To Love God is to Hate Satan...

Or to Hate Sin...

Or to Hate Other Gods

Or to Hate anything and anyone that does not submit to, or is consistant with this God.

If God Is Love, then how can he/she/it hate anything ?

If you Love God with a pure heart, then how can you hate anything ?

Can you be filled with both Love and Hate at the same time ? If you are filled with Hatred, are you a Loving person ?

If you are a Loving Person, can you possess Hatred of any kind ?

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The Bible tells us to Hate Satan. To reject him and not trust his lies. Yet, beleivers claim that God indeed loves Satan. If God Loves Satan, then is Satan truly evil personified ?

How can God love Satan, but hate Sin, if Sin is Evil, and Satan is the personification of Evil ?

The Bible also tells us the world is wicked...to hate this world, and to strive for the higher world, Heaven.

If Earth is so evil, then we can't love it, can we ?

But if we don't love Earth, then we shouldn't take care of it. If this world is truly Satan's world, then why bother treating it with any respect ? We should just trash it.

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I just don't understand how one can love God and then have to hate something or someone else as a part of that Love.

Does the Bible truly support the act of Loving God while Hating Satan, "false idols", sin, the world, etc. ?

If not, then why do many Christians and other religious or non religious people beleive this ?

Too right! Satan doesnt get enough love from us. I nominate JIA to be the bearer of love for satan

Hate is like poison. Hate destroys the person who hates. Also, hate is controlling and will not leave room for love.

I hate people that hate 😕

I don't think the bible says to hate Satan. Merely that one must not be overcome by temptations (which often do come from Satan).

The Bible does not say to hate Satan, but it does say to hate this world.

It is Christians with a unique intepretation of the Bible and perspective who claim that to Love God requires a Hatred of Satan.

Some Christians, however, denounce Hatred all together, and ignore Satan as part of thier beliefs.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Some Christians, Muslims, Jews, or people other monotheistic faiths, even some Athiests, beleive that [b]To Love God is to Hate Satan...

Who told you that?

Or to Hate Sin...

Logically, Sin is everything that prevents you to be closer to God. The right christian teaching is "avoid sin" not "hate sin"...

Or to Hate Other Gods:

Impossible, since there are not other gods for monotheistics faiths. Whom would you hate?

Or to Hate anything and anyone that does not submit to, or is consistant with this God.

Christ: Love your enemies, Bless whoever courses you.
What r U talking about?

If God Is Love, then how can he/she/it hate anything ?

God is uncapable of hating. Who told you that?

If you Love God with a pure heart, then how can you hate anything ?

Exactly. God is love. He doesn't want us to hate.

Can you be filled with both Love and Hate at the same time ? If you are filled with Hatred, are you a Loving person ?

You are vey confused. I think is not your fault, may be you have been listening to the wrong Christians, muslims, etc..

If you are a Loving Person, can you possess Hatred of any kind ?

Exactly. U cant.

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The Bible tells us to Hate Satan. To reject him and not trust his lies. Yet, beleivers claim that God indeed loves Satan. If God Loves Satan, then is Satan truly evil personified ?

The Bible doesn´t tell us to hate Satan. Bible tells us reject his lies and temptations. It is very different. God loves Satan. Satan as us, is a creature of God. It was Satan who decided irrevocably to hate God.

How can God love Satan, but hate Sin, if Sin is Evil, and Satan is the personification of Evil ?

God is love, he is uncapable of hating. He loves even if we hate him.
Sin is a rejection of what God wants from us, that is basically loving him, loving ourselves and our fellow human beings.

The Bible also tells us the world is wicked...to hate this world, and to strive for the higher world, Heaven.
If Earth is so evil, then we can't love it, can we ?

That is a literal interpretation. When the New Testament tells about the world, it refer to our lower egocentrical desires and behavior. "The higher word", stands for love, respect, caring for each other, etc.

But if we don't love Earth, then we shouldn't take care of it. If this world is truly Satan's world, then why bother treating it with any respect ? We should just trash it.

See above.

I just don't understand how one can love God and then have to hate something or someone else as a part of that Love.

As I told you. You got it wrong.

Does the Bible truly support the act of Loving God while Hating Satan, "false idols", sin, the world, etc. ?

I already explained to you.

If not, then why do many Christians and other religious or non religious people beleive this ? [/B]

I can speak for Christians. You see. Among many groups of christians, especially the protestants, it is believed and accepted that anyone can read the Bible and make their own interpretations. That's the reason that there are many different interpretations and christian groups. Some of them make interpretation completely out of context and without any knowledge of the original languages.

The problem is not Christianism , the problem are some christians that is a whole different thing.

Originally posted by darkfan76
I can speak for Christians.

You really can't though 😬

Originally posted by darkfan76
You see. Among many groups of christians, especially the protestants, it is believed and accepted that anyone can read the Bible and make their own interpretations. That's the reason that there are many different interpretations and christian groups. Some of them make interpretation completely out of context and without any knowledge of the original languages.

The old "We can both worship in different ways. You in your way and I in God's" position, eh?

Originally posted by darkfan76
The problem is not Christianism , the problem are some christians that is a whole different thing.

👆

To love God is to hate yourself.

[QUOTE=9250010]Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You really can't though 😬[

The old "We can both worship in different ways. You in your way and I in God's" position, eh?

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I can speak because I know christianity.

Not really. The point is that you should know when you are only giving you're opinion and interpretation, and that you can be wrong (as I do). This sound easy but many Christians really think their own interpretations of the Bible are God's revelations. Their only back up to their claims is that they "read it and understand it from the Bible". That's not enough, I mean really, The Bible doesn't point at itself as being the only rule of authority to be followed by Christians, and it clearly forbids to make private interpretations. Again, the problem is not Christianism, but some christians.

Originally posted by Boris
To love God is to hate yourself.

Not really. IT Is to "deny yourself", that means that you must be aware that the God knows what the best for you is, even better than you do, and that you find true freedom, when you voluntarily and freely give up your will to God's will.

Originally posted by darkfan76
I can speak because I know christianity.

So yours is the one true and absolute interpretation of the Bible? Thats ridiculous and you know it.

Originally posted by darkfan76
Not really. The point is that you should know when you are only giving you're opinion and interpretation, and that you can be wrong (as I do). This sound easy but many Christians really think their own interpretations of the Bible are God's revelations. Their only back up to their claims is that they "read it and understand it from the Bible". That's not enough, I mean really, The Bible doesn't point at itself as being the only rule of authority to be followed by Christians, and it clearly forbids to make private interpretations. Again, the problem is not Christianism, but some christians.

Your words support a fundamentalist literalist reading of the Bible. The idea you're trying to get across seems to be the exact opposite.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So yours is the one true and absolute interpretation of the Bible? Thats ridiculous and you know it.

Your words support a fundamentalist literalist reading of the Bible. The idea you're trying to get across seems to be the exact opposite.

Am I speaking english? Never said "mine" is the one true an absolute intrepretation of the Biblie. In fact I said the opposite. Bible itself forbids private interpretations.

But my point is that there should be one. It doesn't make any sense to have a Book with the revelation of God, that speaks 100% truth, but that this truth can be distorted by millions of interpretations and that we cannot recognize which the good one is. There should be other source of authority, besides the Biblie to know this.

Originally posted by darkfan76
Am I speaking english? Never said "mine" is the one true an absolute intrepretation of the Biblie. In fact I said the opposite. Bible itself forbids private interpretations.

But my point is that there should be one. It doesn't make any sense to have a Book with the revelation of God, that speaks 100% truth, but that this truth can be distorted by millions of interpretations and that we cannot recognize which the good one is. There should be other source of authority, besides the Biblie to know this.

statement a) I have no opinion about how to interpret the bible

statement b) The bible must be interpreted to be 100% accurate

Originally posted by inimalist
statement a) I have no opinion about how to interpret the bible

statement b) The bible must be interpreted to be 100% accurate

Statement a) I don't think my private interpretation is absolute.

Statmente b) There should be an absolute interpretation. 😉

Originally posted by darkfan76
Statement a) I don't think my private interpretation is absolute.

Statmente b) There should be an absolute interpretation. 😉

the idea there there should be an absolute interpretation is an absolute interpretation about how to interpret the bible.

🙂

Originally posted by inimalist
the idea there there should be an absolute interpretation is an absolute interpretation about how to interpret the bible.

🙂

Jajaja, not really. The truth revealed by God is unique. Perfect. Flawless. The differeces amomg Chistians comes from the fact that we all make different interpretations of this unique, perfect and flawless truth.

The fact is that the truth is the truth and will always be. If you and I have a different opinion about anything, there is two possibilities:

(1) One is right, and the other is wrong
(2) Both of us are wrong.

But NEVER, both of us would be right. Is impossible that one thing is white and black and the same time. The color of your shirt doesn't depend on whether you are daltonic or not. The color of your shirt is, your perception can be wrong due to your daltonism, but the truth is that the color of your shirt is only one.

pfff just everyone forget christianity and God and become Satanists, from what ive been reading up on them they are usually far better off and Satan gives knowledge and doesnt want worship in Satanism

Because most bible-thumpers are the most intolerant people in the world... If you're not aligned with their beliefs, they think you're scum.

Originally posted by darkfan76
Jajaja, not really. The truth revealed by God is unique. Perfect. Flawless. The differeces amomg Chistians comes from the fact that we all make different interpretations of this unique, perfect and flawless truth.

The fact is that the truth is the truth and will always be. If you and I have a different opinion about anything, there is two possibilities:

(1) One is right, and the other is wrong
(2) Both of us are wrong.

But NEVER, both of us would be right. Is impossible that one thing is white and black and the same time. The color of your shirt doesn't depend on whether you are daltonic or not. The color of your shirt is, your perception can be wrong due to your daltonism, but the truth is that the color of your shirt is only one.

I'm not arguing the nature of truth. I know that the claims in the bible, if taken literally, can either be true or false.

However, my point is that since you think that the only way to interpret the bible is through a literal reading of it, you are proposing an absolutist way of interpreting the bible. The validity of that interpretation is irrelevant.

As soon as you say "When the Bible says God created the world in 7 days, it is speaking metaphorically" it becomes a non issues, simply because the nature of a metaphore or moral story is not black and white. Again, the validity of the interpretation is irrelevant.

You are proposing a method for interpreting the bible that relies specifically on the passages of of the text being the literal truth.