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Originally posted by inimalist
I'm not arguing the nature of truth. I know that the claims in the bible, if taken literally, can either be true or false.However, my point is that since you think that the only way to interpret the bible is through a literal reading of it, you are proposing an absolutist way of interpreting the bible. The validity of that interpretation is irrelevant.
As soon as you say "When the Bible says God created the world in 7 days, it is speaking metaphorically" it becomes a non issues, simply because the nature of a metaphore or moral story is not black and white. Again, the validity of the interpretation is irrelevant.
You are proposing a method for interpreting the bible that relies specifically on the passages of of the text being the literal truth.
When did I say that "I think that the only way to interpret the bible is through a literal reading of it"?
You got it wrong. I clearly stated the opposite. "Bible only" makes no sense at all, it is an unclear path to be followed, since it relies on private interpretations, and it has caused more divisions among Christians.
For interpretation of the Bible you got to know the context, the original languages, the literary genres, the historical use of the language, and the ancient faith and traditions of Jews of the OT, and the faith and tradition of Christians from the beginning, 2000 years ago.
If right now, year 2007 my interpretation of certain biblical text differs from the faithm interpretation and knowledge from the Christians of 1st, 2nd, 6th, 10th century it is most likely that I'm the one getting it wrong.
Christians up to the 15th century never differed in Biblical Interpretation.
Originally posted by darkfan76
😮Explain that, I mean, you can back it up, Can't you?.
Since Christians worship God, and are commanded to reject Satans and his lies, temptations, etc.. How is now that you state that "Satanism is a form a Christianity"?
It accepts the Christian God as existent...the divinity of Jesus even. Just prefers the other side.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Satanists simply belive its Satan who is the right side, he isnt a horned demon in Satanism, hes a golden Angel as are all the demons in the religion and he simply wants us to know knowledge that God is apprently keeping from us, apparently God is losing all his power in Satanism
Yeah right 😮
He certainly was an Angel, I give you that.
"Apparently", yes. Thats the way he attracts people to him. Seductions, tempetations, lies etc. (For satanists, and for regular people)
Truth is he was already defeated by Christ in the Cross. He knows he's lost, he just want to lose as many people as he can with him.
If you are a Loving Person, can you possess Hatred of any kind ?
Of course. I'm usually filled with hatred (a lot of my family has died and I'm only 16) but at the same time, I can suddenly feel an amazing amount of love for A) My parents, B) My girlfriend.
Love and hate may be opposites, but nevertheless, you can feel both simultaneously, although at times certain ones take over more.
Originally posted by darkfan76
Yeah right 😮He certainly was an Angel, I give you that.
"Apparently", yes. Thats the way he attracts people to him. Seductions, tempetations, lies etc. (For satanists, and for regular people)
Truth is he was already defeated by Christ in the Cross. He knows he's lost, he just want to lose as many people as he can with him.
Yet Satan doesn't exist.. and none of this ever happend.
Originally posted by darkfan76
Yeah right 😮He certainly was an Angel, I give you that.
"Apparently", yes. Thats the way he attracts people to him. Seductions, tempetations, lies etc. (For satanists, and for regular people)
Truth is he was already defeated by Christ in the Cross. He knows he's lost, he just want to lose as many people as he can with him.
well that would be the narrow minded view of a christian or a lover of God, theres no reason why Satan could never be stronger than God, just because the bible says so doesnt mean it is
Satan in Satanism is stronger than God, God in Christianity is stronger than Satan, either could be right, since reading through both sides, i feel Satans religion is far nicer and has a lot of good parts about it, more so than christianity, in Satanism, its God who is the liar and the fool, covering over humanities birthright to power and evolution with lies
and Boris why do you bother, most of this forum is filled with debates "supposing" they excisted, idont belive in any of it but theres no point going into forums saying the same "none of it excists" over and over without looking at any other points, you may as well save yourself some time and not bother coming in here
Originally posted by Burning thought
[B]well that would be the narrow minded view of a christian or a lover of God, theres no reason why Satan could never be stronger than God, just because the bible says so doesnt mean it is
Well is God is God.
The rest, including Satan, are not. Ain't that enough? 😮
Satan in Satanism is stronger than God, God in Christianity is stronger than Satan, either could be right, since reading through both sides, i feel Satans religion is far nicer and has a lot of good parts about it, more so than christianity, in Satanism, its God who is the liar and the fool, covering over humanities birthright to power and evolution with lies
So you find in Satanism, what you'd love to hear? don't you?
It is like politicians, you know, when they are campaigning, they are capable of offer anything in order to get the attention, but the aftemath.. well I guess you know what I'm talking about,
Cristian's message is usually very unconfortable, and makes us feel uneasy, Isn't? "Love your enemies", "put the other cheek", "true religion is feed the starving, etc.." " Shall man not separate what God has joined", Yes, christianism is not cool at all.
Originally posted by darkfan76
Well is God is God.
The rest, including Satan, are not. Ain't that enough? 😮So you find in Satanism, what you'd love to hear? don't you?
It is like politicians, you know, when they are campaigning, they are capable of offer anything in order to get the attention, but the aftemath.. well I guess you know what I'm talking about,
Cristian's message is usually very unconfortable, and makes us feel uneasy, Isn't? "Love your enemies", "put the other cheek", "true religion is feed the starving, etc.." " Shall man not separate what God has joined", Yes, christianism is not cool at all.
i dont understand your first comment, what do you mean by "well is God is God and the rest including Satan are not, God is just a title.
in Satanism i hear things that are good hearted, "i only want people to evolve and gain knowledge"-Satan
wheras God its more about "prey to me or ill throw you into hell" or its more like "discover my son jesus and you are forgiven" a lot of forcefulness is in chrsitinaity, Satanism is "i would like" not "do it or youll burn in hell"
Christian messages are just common sense that anyone could come up with, love your enemies? thats a very ridiculous thing, they wouldnt be your enemies if you loved them, a human cannot love an enemy, its impossible and feed the starving, what brilliant master of imagination came up with that one, common sense
I think that the original post might be going by the philosophy that everything that exists has to have an opposite. Remember the Discworld concepts of everything having an opposite rather than just an absense, making anti-light, anti-heat, anti-noise and anti-crime.
If you haven't experienced hardship, how can you experience pleasure? I don't think these concepts apply to love and hatred very well though.
well that would be the narrow minded view of a christian or a lover of God, theres no reason why Satan could never be stronger than God,
Yes there is, God created him, he can uncreate him, easily.
just because the bible says so doesnt mean it is
yes it does. In your thread I meant to point out when you said that the Bible is just hyperbole that that would be impossible. If you were to take into account the nature of God and of Satan as Christians put it it would be that God never lies, so anything he put into the Bible would have to be ultimately true.
Satan in Satanism is stronger than God, God in Christianity is stronger than Satan,
Obviously...
either could be right, since reading through both sides, i feel Satans religion is far nicer and has a lot of good parts about it,
How so? According to the religions Satan rules Earth, currently. Look at the state that the Earth is in right now. I don't understand how this is possibly nicer then what God had intended, as opposed to what Satan intended.
more so than Christianity, in Satanism, its God who is the liar and the fool, covering over humanities birthright to power and evolution with lies
So... does the Satanist book basically retcon EVERYTHING that happened in the Bible, because if it doesn't then it's obvious who is right and who is not.
and Boris why do you bother, most of this forum is filled with debates "supposing" they existed, i don't believe in any of it but theres no point going into forums saying the same "none of it exists" over and over without looking at any other points, you may as well save yourself some time and not bother coming in here
He's a troll. That's what Trolls do.