Hmm.. so aside from this continuous regeneration, what does Albedo have to use? not trying to shoot him down or anything, i just haven't played the game. I mean, Sephiroth is... well SEPHIROTH! he's famous for kicking ass in more ways than one.. but from what I've seen, it looks like Albedo's only move back is to simply regenerate...
so i call it a tie. They keep fighting and regenerating until they both call it a day and go to the bar.
The Junon Cannon empowered with 1 Mako Reactor, is a city-buster(confirmed in Before Crisis). It was necessary the Junon Cannon/Sister Ray empowered with 8 Reactors to break Sephiroth's barrier.
So, you need to have 8 times the power to destroy a city, just to break his barrier and start the fight.
Does Albedo have that power? Can he blow-up 8 cities(the size of Midgar) in one shot, and still have strength to fight Sephiroth himself?
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
It's not confirmed. It's a statement made by one character.
It would be confirmed if it happened.
And If we can't go by statements(not contradicted in the story) made by knowledgeable characters, than Kuja never destroyed a planet.
Statements not contradicted by the story are valid... Or they aren't.
Pick a side and stop contradicting yourself, Nikk.
So...Seph has a barrier. Yay. He can't attack Al through it. It be a stalemate if neither can attack the other directly.
Of course Sephiroth can attack through it.
He could use Telekinesis.
Yeah, I know Avalanche escaped it, but you have to remember they were 8 people. Not to mention Seph was using his mind to stop the movement of Holy.
So, if we ignore all the concentration he was using on Holy, he still can use his mind to stop the movements(and even crush parts of the body) of 1 person, using only 1/8 of his mental power.
Of course, if we add Holy to the equation, he needs even less than 1/8 to do that.
Sephiroth can easily kill a person(on Cloud's level) if he uses ALL of his mental power. I don't know if he could kill Albedo, but at least hurt him.
The other way to attack through the barrier, is using the Negative Lifestream. It's something connected to him, but not a physical connection. It wouldn't be inside the barrier with him.
And If we can't go by statements(not contradicted in the story) made by knowledgeable characters, than Kuja never destroyed a planet.
Statements not contradicted by the story are valid... Or they aren't.
Pick a side and stop contradicting yourself, Nikk.
So not only do you suck at debating, now you're delusional.
Now, maybe this will help you acutally read what I said
It's not confirmed. It's a statement made by one character.
It would be confirmed if it happened.
Now, where in there did I say the statement wasn't allowed? Nowhere? KTHXBAI.
Of course Sephiroth can attack through it.He could use Telekinesis.
Prove he can use TK on anything outside the barrier.
The other way to attack through the barrier, is using the Negative Lifestream. It's something connected to him, but not a physical connection. It wouldn't be inside the barrier with him.
So now he's making the barrier and has the Negative Lifestream?
This Composite Sephiroth?
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
So not only do you suck at debating, now you're delusional.Now, maybe this will help you acutally read what I said
[b]It's not confirmed. It's a statement made by one character.
It would be confirmed if it happened.Now, where in there did I say the statement wasn't allowed? Nowhere? KTHXBAI.[/b]
😆
I see it's very easy to piss you off. Calm down dude.
The statements of Mikoto and Amarant are confirmed in the game? Did we see Kuja destroying the surface of a planet, instead of only destroying Bran Bal? Nope.
Your logic is flawed. Pick a side and stop contradicting yourself.
Prove he can use TK on anything outside the barrier.
From all the information we have, the barrier could only protect(or contain) physical objects or energy. Telekinesis is neither.
So now he's making the barrier and has the Negative Lifestream?
This Composite Sephiroth?
No, it's Sephiroth in his most powerful form ever. So yes, he have all his powers from the games, excluding KH.
Originally posted by SHM
😆I see it's very easy to piss you off. Calm down dude.
Believe me, I'm not angry.
Ask burning thought. He's seen me angry.
This is just me being rude.
The statements of Mikoto and Amarant are confirmed in the game? Did we see Kuja destroying the surface of a planet, instead of only destroying Bran Bal? Nope.
You again miss the point.
I did not say ANYTHING was confirmed.
That's the whole point of my original post you replied to.
Your logic is flawed. Pick a side and stop contradicting yourself.
Stop reading things into my posts and making up contradictions then.
From all the information we have, the barrier could only protect(or contain) physical objects or energy. Telekinesis is neither.
So now he has Albedo in TK...what does he do?
The guy can't die even if you reduce his entire body to particles.
No, it's Sephiroth in his most powerful form ever. So yes, he have all his powers from the games, excluding KH.
Well if it's strongest Sephiroth, why not use strongest Albedo?
Seems a bit unfair.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Believe me, I'm not angry.
Ask burning thought. He's seen me angry.
This is just me being rude.
If you say so... 🙄
You again miss the point.
I did not say ANYTHING was confirmed.
That's the whole point of my original post you replied to.
If it's stated by a reliable source/character, and the information given is not contradicted at any moment in the story, then it's canon.
The writers of a story have many ways of presenting their ideas. And that includes, feats and statements. That's how things works. Deal with it.
Stop reading things into my posts and making up contradictions then.
By stating that Veld's argument is not valid, but Mikoto's and Amarant's are valid, you ARE contradicting yourself.
Actually, you are being an hypocrite.
So now he has Albedo in TK...what does he do?
The guy can't die even if you reduce his entire body to particles.
And what Albedo can do to free himself or break his barrier?
See? I'm just showing this isn't a curbstomp in Albedo's favor, like you and your friends wanted to believe.
Well if it's strongest Sephiroth, why not use strongest Albedo?
Seems a bit unfair.
Actually, it isn't his strongest form being used here. It's his FFVII version, not AC. My mistake.
Ah, and:
So not only do you suck at debating, now you're delusional.
Maybe in your opinion... But at least I respect the rules, Nikk.
I will not waste my time with a guy who shouldn't even be here anymore.
Welcome to my ignore list.
If it's stated by a reliable source/character, and the information given is not contradicted at any moment in the story, then it's canon.
The writers of a story have many ways of presenting their ideas. And that includes, feats and statements. That's how things works. Deal with it.
Again, missed the point.
By stating that Veld's argument is not valid, but Mikoto's and Amarant's are valid, you ARE contradicting yourself.
Actually, you are being an hypocrite.
For the love of...............
I quote myself. READ THIS GODDAM TIME.
I did not say ANYTHING was confirmed.
Get it now?
Mikoto and Amarant's lines are NOT confirmed.
Neither is the city-busting statement.
Okay?
Damn.
And what Albedo can do to free himself or break his barrier?
See? I'm just showing this isn't a curbstomp in Albedo's favor, like you and your friends wanted to believe.
If nothing Sephiroth can do will hurt Al...it is a curbstomp.
Testament Albedo also can teleport anywhere he pleases.
Maybe in your opinion... But at least I respect the rules, Nikk.
I will not waste my time with a guy who shouldn't even be here anymore.
Welcome to my ignore list.
Still delusional.
I accept your concession though.