Originally posted by Larceny
Not one punched, but out punched. If that battle comes down to a brawl, which it will, she gets dominated. It's that simple. She'd get mowed down like the waves of heros during WW3.He hit mach 500 before falling behind and stumbling, it was never established that thats his peak. He's also backhanded a blitzing Flash, and went toe to toe with Flash speed wise. I doubt she's his superior in speed. Unless of course you can prove otherwise.
I ask you then. How have her skills helped her when facing physically superior opponents, opponents such as Superman?
Not a lesson, just thought you should take note.
I've already seen them, and as I said, her record against the upper echelon of top tiers is less than impressive. In fact, she has a very poor record against MM. The same MM Black Adam sent to space crying like a *****.
It won't be too difficult. That's her only advantage, the lasso, which is why I gave her the one or two wins. Her skill, like so many time before will prove useless against a superior for.
BA ftw
I take i t you think Thor could last in a punch fest with Black Adam? When Thor has had his freaking arm broken by a low level mutant? Your entire summation reaks of bias. IN WW3 Adam had a power up. And I'd like to call to your attention the fact that you think WW fighting BA would come down to a brawl. WHAT THE ****??? She certainly has never fought superman in a brawl. Why would she start with BA. When she fought the Doomsday clone, she fought with skill and planning. She is also faster than Adam. So you think IT's going to be a brawl when he's missing many of his punches. And I seem to remember her bracelets. Brawlers don't use indestructible vambraces to deflect punches. So when did this become a brawl?
And you say it won't be too difficut for BA to defeat WW. Just how strong do you think WW is? According to DC she's the 2nd strongest Hero on DC earth.
And I find i tso funny that you say you doubt BA is her inferior in speed, and then challenge someone to prove Diana is his superior. OMA|G. BA has no speed feats that match her best. ANd she has more of them. IT would be up to you to actually show BA beating someone as strong, fast, and skilled as Diana with a solid and easy win, in order to back up your claim that he can steam roll her.
Originally posted by Larceny
You change yours all the time. We best start quoting you by the minute. ermm
I change my opinion based upon arguments presented by others on the forum. IF we didn't change our opinions then what the hell are we doing trying to convince each other of anything. I'd call someone who doesn't change thier stance in light of evidence a retarded fanboy.
Originally posted by Val
Or least every time he's proven wrong (which is pretty close to every minute).
To keep the same opinion after being proven wrong would be retarded. Only an idiot would keep the same opinion after being proven wrong. At anyrate, I don't like you very much. Just thought you should know that. Actually not at all.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I take i t you think Thor could last in a punch fest with Black Adam? When Thor has had his freaking arm broken by a low level mutant? Your entire summation reaks of bias. IN WW3 Adam had a power up. And I'd like to call to your attention the fact that you think WW fighting BA would come down to a brawl. WHAT THE ****??? She certainly has never fought superman in a brawl. Why would she start with BA. When she fought the Doomsday clone, she fought with skill and planning. She is also faster than Adam. So you think IT's going to be a brawl when he's missing many of his punches. And I seem to remember her bracelets. Brawlers don't use indestructible vambraces to deflect punches. So when did this become a brawl?
And you say it won't be too difficut for BA to defeat WW. Just how strong do you think WW is? According to DC she's the 2nd strongest Hero on DC earth.And I find i tso funny that you say you doubt BA is her inferior in speed, and then challenge someone to prove Diana is his superior. OMA|G. BA has no speed feats that match her best. ANd she has more of them. IT would be up to you to actually show BA beating someone as strong, fast, and skilled as Diana with a solid and easy win, in order to back up your claim that he can steam roll her.
What relevance does Thor have to this thread?
If he had a power up, he'll retain that power up for this fight, as we use current versions for each character. Thus making every feat in WW3 applicable for debate.
You must not know what a brawl is. Every fight between her and Superman ends up being a brawl.
She wouldn't start with BA, she'd end with him.
How do you fight with "planning"?
Prove she's faster. BA has backhanded a blitzing Flash, and matched speed with Flash while he was in the speed force, rendering all those around statues.
So she plans to cross her wrist for the entirety of the fight? That surely won't get her a win.
She's not Nvr.
Prove it.
This is part of the reason he steamrolls WW.
Gl's, MM, Captain Marvel, etc. All steamrolled, all characters whom would defeat WW.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
To keep the same opinion after being proven wrong would be retarded. Only an idiot would keep the same opinion after being proven wrong. At anyrate, I don't like you very much. Just thought you should know that. Actually not at all.
Originally posted by Larceny
What relevance does Thor have to this thread?If he had a power up, he'll retain that power up for this fight, as we use current versions for each character. Thus making every feat in WW3 applicable for debate.
You must not know what a brawl is. Every fight between her and Superman ends up being a brawl.
She wouldn't start with BA, she'd end with him.
How do you fight with "planning"?
Prove she's faster. BA has backhanded a blitzing Flash, and matched speed with Flash while he was in the speed force, rendering all those around statues.
So she plans to cross her wrist for the entirety of the fight? That surely won't get her a win.
She's not Nvr.
Prove it.
This is part of the reason he steamrolls WW.
Gl's, MM, Captain Marvel, etc. All steamrolled, all characters whom would defeat WW.
LOL at this post. BA doesn't have that power up. He gave it to black mary. What don't you understand about that? That pic means nothing. There is a reason certain threads say WW3 BA. Geez. And WW 's last scuffle with superman didn't end in a brawl. It ended with her cutting him on his chin. And what the hell makes you think she has to cross her wrist to block his punches? She's blocked punches from Superman with her standard bracers. How do you argue against a character you don't know much about, haven't bought any of the books, and all you know is from scans?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LOL at this post. BA doesn't have that power up. He gave it to black mary. What don't you understand about that? That pic means nothing. There is a reason certain threads say WW3 BA. Geez. And WW 's last scuffle with superman didn't end in a brawl. It ended with her cutting him on his chin. And what the hell makes you think she has to cross her wrist to block his punches? She's blocked punches from Superman with her standard bracers. How do you argue against a character you don't know much about, haven't bought any of the books, and all you know is from scans?
At this point he has a mini currently on issue 5 of 6 where he has his power. Not that it matters as we'd go by the levels he was last seen at.
WW3 Black Adam = current Black Adam.
Brawl: 1. a noisy quarrel, squabble, or fight.
Every fight between WW and Superman is a brawl. Every time they brawl she's defeated.
You were speaking of the shield, I wasn't.
Yeah, your excuses aren't needed. Prove she can win or stalemate, or refrain from posting.
Originally posted by Larceny
At this point he has a mini currently on issue 5 of 6 where he has his power. Not that it matters as we'd go by the levels he was last seen at.WW3 Black Adam = current Black Adam.
Brawl: 1. a noisy quarrel, squabble, or fight.
Every fight between WW and Superman is a brawl. Every time they brawl she's defeated.
You were speaking of the shield, I wasn't.
Yeah, your excuses aren't needed. Prove she can win or stalemate, or refrain from posting.
First and foremost, BA is NOT superman. He isn't as fast, He doesn't have superman's offensive power, and he's not Diana's freind. Using Superman as a comparison is bad, no actually, terrible debating on your part.
Secondly, Black Adam' gave the power he had in WWIII to Black Mary. What ever power he's tapping now hasn't proven that it is the equal of His WWIII feats since it's not the same and it's a different story arc.
ANd you are the only one here who thinks BA can take this rediculous 9/10 majority against WW. You need to show me BA pwning someone with WW's speed, skill, and level of strength with any ease.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First and foremost, BA is NOT superman. He isn't as fast, He doesn't have superman's offensive power, and he's not Diana's freind. Using Superman as a comparison is bad, no actually, terrible debating on your part.Secondly, Black Adam' gave the power he had in WWIII to Black Mary. What ever power he's tapping now hasn't proven that it is the equal of His WWIII feats since it's not the same and it's a different story arc.
ANd you are the only one here who thinks BA can take this rediculous 9/10 majority against WW. You need to show me BA pwning someone with WW's speed, skill, and level of strength with any ease.
Can you prove any of the above statements or are you mindlessly ranting? I normally wouldn't ask, but rants are common when it comes to you.
Not that it has any relevance to this thread, but BA's stalemated Superman. In fact without Superman they were incapable of stopping BA when he went on his rampage.
You constantly tell others to read DC, yet your yourself consistently have no idea what your talking about. Go read Dark Age, and come back when you figure out BA didn't lose any power.
No, I'm the only that gave the 8-9/10 ratio. Everyone else other than Batdude just pointed out that he wins.
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Those good enough?
Originally posted by Larceny
Not one punched, but out punched. If that battle comes down to a brawl, which it will, she gets dominated. It's that simple. She'd get mowed down like the waves of heros during WW3.He hit mach 500 before falling behind and stumbling, it was never established that thats his peak. He's also backhanded a blitzing Flash, and went toe to toe with Flash speed wise. I doubt she's his superior in speed. Unless of course you can prove otherwise.
I ask you then. How have her skills helped her when facing physically superior opponents, opponents such as Superman?
Not a lesson, just thought you should take note.
I've already seen them, and as I said, her record against the upper echelon of top tiers is less than impressive. In fact, she has a very poor record against MM. The same MM Black Adam sent to space crying like a *****.
It won't be too difficult. That's her only advantage, the lasso, which is why I gave her the one or two wins. Her skill, like so many time before will prove useless against a superior for.
BA ftw
Why would she brawl with him? Lulz, she's not stupid. Diana is a brilliant tactician and knows her limits. She would use her skills and experience to take him down. A slugfest is a good example of what this fight would NOT be, actually.
He struggled hard to get to Mach 500 on foot. Garrick even says that his muscles began to flag. Then he stumbled in the race. Shit, at the very least it shows that Black Adam isn't going to be using speed over Mach 500 in a fight, am I right? Diana has reached the speed of light before on two separate occasions. Once was when she was catching up to Jesse Quick, and the other was when J'onn, her, Supes, Wally, and Garrick were circling around Surtur to steal his speed.
Mach 500 is around 390,000 mph, and the speed of light is around 186,282 mps. That means Diana has gone 1719.526 X faster than him. Not saying it means she's going to speedblitz him in a fight or anything, but still.
Plus Diana has beaten Wally and has done well against Zoom before.
Well, she's gotten the better of CM twice. She's easily defeated White Martians before. One punch from Hippolyta as Wonder Woman (who is <<< Diana, btw) bloodied the nose of Orion and knocked him down. Not to mention in JLA: The Tenth Circle her and Superman stalemate in a fight. She also did pretty well against the JLA while blindfolded.
Like I said before, Adam takes this but by no means would it be an easy fight for him. At all. She'd use her experience to exploit any mistake or weakness he makes in a fight. Something like this:
http://img139.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=caf0f_justice14.jpg
Originally posted by batdude123
Why would she brawl with him? Lulz, she's not stupid. Diana is a brilliant tactician and knows her limits. She would use her skills and experience to take him down. A slugfest is a good example of what this fight would NOT be, actually.He struggled hard to get to Mach 500 on foot. Garrick even says that his muscles began to flag. Then he stumbled in the race. Shit, at the very least it shows that Black Adam isn't going to be using speed over Mach 500 in a fight, am I right? Diana has reached the speed of light before on two separate occasions. Once was when she was catching up to Jesse Quick, and the other was when J'onn, her, Supes, Wally, and Garrick were circling around Surtur to steal his speed.
Mach 500 is around 390,000 mph, and the speed of light is around 186,282 mps. That means Diana has gone 1719.526 X faster than him. Not saying it means she's going to speedblitz him in a fight or anything, but still.
Plus Diana has beaten Wally and has done well against Zoom before.
Well, she's gotten the better of CM twice. She's easily defeated White Martians before. One punch from Hippolyta as Wonder Woman (who is <<< Diana, btw) bloodied the nose of Orion and knocked him down. Not to mention in JLA: The Tenth Circle her and Superman stalemate in a fight. She also did pretty well against the JLA while blindfolded.
Like I said before, Adam takes this but by no means would it be an easy fight for him. At all. She'd use her experience to exploit any mistake or weakness he makes in a fight. Something like this:
http://img139.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=caf0f_justice14.jpg
Other than the lasso, what other option does she have? He'll be on the constant offensive, leaving her little time to think of an effective strategy capable of getting her the win.
Looks like he starts to Buckle at mach 500, but does not fall until after the caption saying "the speed of light". Seems to me he falls just after Jay hits light speed and he was not that far behind, So it seems he was over mach 500, Of Course I could be looking at it wrong. I'm leaning toward the "writer thinks Mach 500 is faster than it is" option, myself, so I'd grant Adam a higher top speed in "reality."
Even so, it isn't his greatest speed feat.
You also forget to address the instance in which he matched Garrick in speed while he was in the speed force, and the time he casually backhanded Garrick when he attempted to blitz him.
Not that she didn't get her ass beast by him previously.
I doubt you wish to compare her battle feats with Adam's. His simultaneous owning of GL John, Guy, and Alan, Captain Marvel, MM, Flash, along with s host of other characters. He also doesn't seem to lose as much as her, I wonder why?
Again. I'd like to ask what skill and experience has gotten her against top tier characters before? Characters such as Superman, and MM.
