Black Adam vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
To Date Diana has done well against
Captain Marvel
Captain Nazi
THe Doomsday clone stronger than the original
Superman on a few occasions-some better than others
Etrigan
White Martians
a Daxamite
Hermes
Barda
Flash
Captain Atom
Power Girl
ANd she's even blitzed Ares.
She's also embarrassed Granny Goodness who was the most powerful of all the female furies
She's bitched Kara twice, Once in a choke hold, once with one punch
She's survived Being hit at faster than light speed by Superman and Zoom
She's Been strong enough to hold a city sized ship while on fire, a meteor that looked to be the size of small state, and Pull her fair share of the earth's weight against the sun's pull.

Her Speed is great enough to match Jesse quick going into the speed force, match flash and superman to depower surtur, and also keep up with Hermes.

Now With that type of skill and Battle record, To say BA would steam roll her is just crazy. Now I hadn't even mentioned Her Magic lasso, Her Tiara, Her Vambraces and Her force field and her nifty invsible disk of lanishiar which she just happens to carry behind her belt. Such lovely trinkets in there.

Now how does BA just steam roll someone with such a record? I'd like to know who he's pwned in hand to hand with such a record?

Originally posted by Badabing
Which clone was stronger than the original? I'm trying to get all the DD showings and don't know if I've come across that clone.

It was stronger than the original BUT not stronger than the later versions. THat I"m aware of. IT was pulling power from the city. The machine was able to make copies of real villians and match thier power, but not thier skill. The doomsday was so powerful that WW had to use the guantlet of atlas to destroy it. IT was in the john byrne run.

Originally posted by Badabing
Which clone was stronger than the original? I'm trying to get all the DD showings and don't know if I've come across that clone.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Me too... and I've been wondering what issue that was since I saw the scan.

IT was around Wonder Woman 111-113 I think.

Thanks Nvr. I will try to find the issues.

Originally posted by Badabing
Thanks Nvr. I will try to find the issues.

I'll try and find the specifics. BRB

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
To Date Diana has done well against
Captain Marvel - Fair enough, but she and others were handled by CM in Underworld Unleashed. Also dismissed in V&V.
Captain Nazi - True.
THe Doomsday clone stronger than the original - I coulda sworn it nearly killed her?
Superman on a few occasions-some better than others - Once, that irc. League of One - She needed to surprise him, and still got handled.
Etrigan -Fair enough.
White Martians - She also needed saving by Superman, twice.
a Daxamite - Let her win, and admitted it.
Hermes - Fair enough
Barda - Shulkie with a beta rod, but if it's a high point to you, fine.
Flash - Fair enough.
Captain Atom - A paper tiger.
Power Girl - Lolllerskates.
ANd she's even blitzed Ares. - She tackled Ares, but did no damage.
She's also embarrassed Granny Goodness who was the most powerful of all the female furies - lollerskatesindoodooice!!
She's bitched Kara twice, Once in a choke hold, once with one punch - Good stuff.
She's survived Being hit at faster than light speed by Superman and Zoom - Good stuff.
She's Been strong enough to hold a city sized ship while on fire, a meteor that looked to be the size of small state, and Pull her fair share of the earth's weight against the sun's pull. - Good stuff, but they failed to stabilize.

Her Speed is great enough to match Jesse quick going into the speed force, match flash and superman to depower surtur, and also keep up with Hermes. - Good stuff.

Now With that type of skill and Battle record, To say BA would steam roll her is just crazy. Now I hadn't even mentioned Her Magic lasso, Her Tiara, Her Vambraces and Her force field and her nifty invsible disk of lanishiar which she just happens to carry behind her belt. Such lovely trinkets in there.

Now how does BA just steam roll someone with such a record? I'd like to know who he's pwned in hand to hand with such a record?

He's beaten up the JSA twice iirc, squashed Amazo, beaten up Captain Marvel and associates, looked equalish to Superman(Diana flatout can't make this claim) and has dismissed PG twice(lol).

He, at the end portion of a three day ramapage, took Martian Vision point blank to the face, and only had it scar him, not ko or nearly kill him.

He just flatout gets more respect than Diana in terms of power.

Originally posted by UniOmni
He's beaten up the JSA twice iirc, squashed Amazo, beaten up Captain Marvel and associates, looked equalish to Superman(Diana flatout can't make this claim) and has dismissed PG twice(lol).

He, at the end portion of a three day ramapage, took Martian Vision point blank to the face, and only had it scar him, not ko or nearly kill him.

He just flatout gets more respect than Diana in terms of power.

BA had a power up during most of those feats. Diana has Stalemated CM on panel and looking to get the better of him. BA has stalemaed Cm a few times. He's getting undo respect if you are using WW3 as a basis.

He first beat up the JSA when he returned as Teth, not the guy who killed Bastions parents.

He later joined the JSA.

He then left the JSA with Atomsmasher and Eclipso, and went to Kahndaq and was it's leader.

The JSA invaded, and Teth beat up the JSA, again for the most part.

He did beat up the JSA in WW3, but that was the only time a powerup was present.

The only time he ever had a powerup was WW3, and most of his feats happened outside of it.

Originally posted by UniOmni
He first beat up the JSA when he returned as Teth, not the guy who killed Bastions parents.

He later joined the JSA.

He then left the JSA with Atomsmasher and Eclipso, and went to Kahndaq and was it's leader.

The JSA invaded, and Teth beat up the JSA, again for the most part.

He did beat up the JSA in WW3, but that was the only time a powerup was present.

The only time he ever had a powerup was WW3, and most of his feats happened outside of it.

I fail to see how Him beating the JSA during any of the other arcs was any more than any other top tier has done to teams of people. Superman has done it, Wonder Woman has done it, Thor has done it, etc. His best showings are in ww3 and he had a power up there. I can't see how his normal showings would put him anywhere out of the range of WW. Not with the list I provided. Hell, How many people has he beaten with her record?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I fail to see how Him beating the JSA during any of the other arcs was any more than any other top tier has done to teams of people. Superman has done it, Wonder Woman has done it, Thor has done it, etc. His best showings are in ww3 and he had a power up there. I can't see how his normal showings would put him anywhere out of the range of WW. Not with the list I provided. Hell, How many people has he beaten with her record?

Point blank, WW couldn't do what he did to the JSA once, let alone twice.

Superman could do it possibly, but the magic on board would probably say otherwise.

Thor did so once, but he was dead to rights by BRB before hand, only to get the win when Bill dropped his guard iirc.

WW isn't as powerful as either of the two mentioned.

His best feats are outside of WW3, but you don't really care.

You could see a scan with Teth koing Superman mano y mano, and you'd still balk and disregard it.

Look at it like this.

Superman is the benchmark in the DCU top tier.

Teth and Cap are presented as equals to Superman.

WW is presented as a close second, but second nonetheless.

That to me, counts more than any who did who beat up in the DCU.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Point blank, WW couldn't do what he did to the JSA once, let alone twice.

Superman could do it possibly, but the magic on board would probably say otherwise.

Thor did so once, but he was dead to rights by BRB before hand, only to get the win when Bill dropped his guard iirc.

WW isn't as powerful as either of the two mentioned.

His best feats are outside of WW3, but you don't really care.

You could see a scan with Teth koing Superman mano y mano, and you'd still balk and disregard it.

Look at it like this.

Superman is the benchmark in the DCU top tier.

Teth and Cap are presented as equals to Superman.

WW is presented as a close second, but second nonetheless.

That to me, counts more than any who did who beat up in the DCU.

Actually, According to DC editors, WW is the ONLY second to Superman.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually, According to DC editors, WW is the ONLY second to Superman.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually, According to DC editors, WW is the ONLY second to Superman.

Too bad DC editors aren't the ones portraying the Shazamers as equals to Superman.

I love it how people claim BA had a power up during WW3, yet nobody can prove it, nor can they prove how the power up effected him if he did have one. Funny considering if he did gain a power up, like the other gods, the power of Isis would only contribute to a single attribute. Not that it matters, because if he had a power up he never lost it thus making all he did during WW3 applicable for debate.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I fail to see how Him beating the JSA during any of the other arcs was any more than any other top tier has done to teams of people. Superman has done it, Wonder Woman has done it, Thor has done it, etc. His best showings are in ww3 and he had a power up there. I can't see how his normal showings would put him anywhere out of the range of WW. Not with the list I provided. Hell, How many people has he beaten with her record?

WW has never done anything remotely close to the team bashing by Superman, Thor, and BA.

His best showings weren't in WW3, and as said, if he had a power up he retains it for this battle as he never lost it.

I also notice how you slyly through in your argument that she's done well against a Daxamaite, a statement which is a blatant lie. It was made clear that she was inferior to that Daxamite, in fact IIRC the Daxamite didn't even view her as a threat.

Originally posted by Larceny
I love it how people claim BA had a power up during WW3, but other than Val none can prove it

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
That makes no sense... at all...

I didn't mean that. What I meant was he's the only one with a solid argument for a power up.

I edited it though.

Originally posted by Larceny
WW has never done anything remotely close to the team bashing by Superman, Thor, and BA.

His best showings weren't in WW3, and as said, if he had a power up he retains it for this battle as he never lost it.

I also notice how you slyly through in your argument that she's done well against a Daxamaite, a statement which is a blatant lie. It was made clear that she was inferior to that Daxamite, in fact IIRC the Daxamite didn't even view her as a threat.

Are you talking about when she had to fight for her food? ANd how that was before her power up? Did you read the entire arc or some scans and not knowing the entire story?

Originally posted by Larceny
I love it how people claim BA had a power up during WW3, yet nobody can prove it, nor can they prove how the power up effected him if he did have one. Funny considering if he did gain a power up, like the other gods, the power of Isis would only contribute to a single attribute. Not that it matters, because if he had a power up he never lost it thus making all he did during WW3 applicable for debate.

He had a powerup, period.

He and Cap are normally powered by six different gods.

WW3 specifically makes note of the fact that he's being powered by not six, but seven gods at that time.

He had a powerup during WW3.
It might not be well defined what exactly the nature of the power up is, but he had one more god to draw power from, so he had a powerup.