Black Adam vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by UniOmni
You really don't think Teth is stronger?

She might have more lifting feats, but the way he stacks up in physical presence in comparison to her seems to be clearly superior, imo.

NOT when Teth is the exact equal of CM. Who has on panel stalemated WW and she looked to be getting the better becuz of Skill. And this was before her power up. So I'd say they are as close as you can get. She's also beaten her share of herald lvl beings, tied with herald lvl beings in strength, and done well against above the top tier strength. It's crazy to think she can't keep up with someone slower and less skilled than her.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Probably 3 or 4. She's faster and more skilled. BUt he's more durable. Fortunately her trinkets are part of her.

Nvr, can you quit with the "she's faster" nonsense? Your incapable of proving it. There's really no reason to keep saying it.

BA wins. And he is stronger than WW.

Originally posted by Larceny
Nvr, can you quit with the "she's faster" nonsense? Your incapable of proving it. There's really no reason to keep saying it.

Please.She has more speed feats, and better ones than teth. YOu are the one who incapable of proving teth can even reach light speed. let alone the BETTER than light speeds she has been shown to do.

Originally posted by D-Block
BA wins. And he is stronger than WW.

Says the guy with CM in his sig. Prove that BA is stronger than WW outside of WW3. Keep in mind that etrigan was able to knock Superman from the earth to the moon if I remember correctly. ANd WW was giving that same etrigan a hell of a fight.

The benchmark of the DCU top tier feels that the Marvels are his equals.

He dismisses WW as a real threat in combat.

Originally posted by UniOmni
The benchmark of the DCU top tier feels that the Marvels are his equals.

He dismisses WW as a real threat in combat.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Please.She has more speed feats, and better ones than teth. YOu are the one who incapable of proving teth can even reach light speed. let alone the BETTER than light speeds she has been shown to do.

Prove it.

Originally posted by Larceny
Prove it.

The burden of proof is on you. YOu are the only one who seems to think BA is anywhere near as fast as her.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The burden of proof is on you. YOu are the only one who seems to think BA is anywhere near as fast as her.

The proof isn't on me. You claimed WW to be faster, it's your job to prove your stance.

But anyways......

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually DC editorial staff says that NO other hero comes between Superman and Wonder Woman in strength. And the omac files would agree. They both have alpha 1 lvl strength and stats. He's got her beat in flight speed. And Wonder Woman is even called Alpha 2. Second after superman. This is further confirmed by Batman saying that NO OTher force on earth could contain wonder WOman but Superman. SUperman goes on to say that after himself, he consideres wonder woman the next line of defense. When the man cheetah hit superman in the mouth, he said that thing has a punch like Captain marvel or Diana. The proof is backing me up. Diana is everybit as strong as the marvels. If you dont' think she's uber, check her fight out with Hermes. He fights out with Diva, Iaxion,ares, etc.

What you don't wanna see however, is that as long as WW comes second to Superman, she's by default second to his admitted equals.

WW is always second to Superman, that's her established position.

Cap and Teth are his equals, that's their established positions.

WW fights defensively against Superman, and uses her skill and trinkets to aid her, because she flatout cannot stand toe to toe with him.

Cap and Teth stand toe to toe with him in combat. Equals in brawn, but can amp to gain an edge.

WW tackling Ares(big feat) etc means nil, when he's not the benchmark of power in the DCU.

DC Editorial is great in interviews and the like, but the comics are the final say, and the comics say that Diana is a second to Superman, whereas the Marvels are his equals.

Period.

You're gonna bring up her fights with characters who aren't the benchmark, so type away, but you and i both know that she's inferior physically, but her skill and items keep her in the game.

She is formidable.

But she's not on their level.

Originally posted by UniOmni
What you don't wanna see however, is that as long as WW comes second to Superman, she's by default second to his admitted equals.

WW is always second to Superman, that's her established position.

Cap and Teth are his equals, that's their established positions.

WW fights defensively against Superman, and uses her skill and trinkets to aid her, because she flatout cannot stand toe to toe with him.

Cap and Teth stand toe to toe with him in combat. Equals in brawn, but can amp to gain an edge.

WW tackling Ares(big feat) etc means nil, when he's not the benchmark of power in the DCU.

DC Editorial is great in interviews and the like, but the comics are the final say, and the comics say that Diana is a second to Superman, whereas the Marvels are his equals.

Period.

You're gonna bring up her fights with characters who aren't the benchmark, so type away, but you and i both know that she's inferior physically, but her skill and items keep her in the game.

She is formidable.

But she's not on their level.

Uni's a prick, and we disagree quite often, but in this case...

He's really spot on.

Lip service and out-of-continuity 'info' is great but when it comes down to it, it means absolutely dick.

Huh?

NO YOU'RE A PRICK!!

There is no question that Black Adam would utter pwn WonderWoman here.

Originally posted by Larceny
The proof isn't on me. You claimed WW to be faster, it's your job to prove your stance.

But anyways......

LMAO you are using JAY garrick as proof that BA is as fast as wonder Woman? OMG. 😆 😆 😆 And if you pay attention, once Jay taps into the speed force, he's clearly moving too fast for BA to react to. I'd say you need to try harder.

Jay is the 3rd best Flash...

Certainly better than that Jesse Quick scan that gets thrown up every time someone is asked to prove WW's speed.

Originally posted by UniOmni
What you don't wanna see however, is that as long as WW comes second to Superman, she's by default second to his admitted equals.

WW is always second to Superman, that's her established position.

Cap and Teth are his equals, that's their established positions.

WW fights defensively against Superman, and uses her skill and trinkets to aid her, because she flatout cannot stand toe to toe with him.

Cap and Teth stand toe to toe with him in combat. Equals in brawn, but can amp to gain an edge.

WW tackling Ares(big feat) etc means nil, when he's not the benchmark of power in the DCU.

DC Editorial is great in interviews and the like, but the comics are the final say, and the comics say that Diana is a second to Superman, whereas the Marvels are his equals.

Period.

You're gonna bring up her fights with characters who aren't the benchmark, so type away, but you and i both know that she's inferior physically, but her skill and items keep her in the game.

She is formidable.

But she's not on their level.

First off, BA nor CM are superman's admitted equals. They Are NOT his equals in strength. Get that thru your head. 2ndly , WW is superman's 2nd becuz of his better offenses, flight speed, and invulnerability. When it comes to strength, They are listed as dead even. WW fights defensively against Superman becuz he's always been under mind control. She could kill him any time she wishes. Or wasn't that established when she cut his chin instead of taking his head off? Read much? Guess you don't.

And Ares is far above the bench mark of power in the DCU. As a matter of fact, The more fighting goes on, the more powerful Ares is. Have you ever seen SUeprman cut lose on any of the shazam familY? I sure as hell haven't.

Do you ever wonder why WW3 happened? it was specifically becuz Superman and WW were not on the scene. As A matter of fact, even the people of the DCU earth think Wonder WOman can beat Teth. IT's absolutely retarded to think that WW who has given the goods to etrigan, martians, kryptonians, and magical beings, would NOT be on CM's or BA's lvl? What the **** lvl is she at then? She's stronger than Martian Manhunter, Supergirl, etc. The next step is A1. YOu saying she's not on thier level means jack when you don't have a level to put her on. And you have the nerve to say her skills keeps her in the game? Her skills didn't keep her head from being knocked off by zoom. That was durability. Her skills didn't allow her to knock the shit out of white martians. That was pure punching power. Her skills didn't allow her to enter the speed force. That was speed. Her skills didn't save her from being pummeled by hermes. A being that was fighting Mercury AND Flash at the same time. Well maybe some skill. Tee hee. But you get the point. I sure as hell don't remember skills allowing her to catch a FALLING Meteor that looked like the size of a small state.

Originally posted by Val
Jay is the 3rd best Flash...

Certainly better than that Jesse Quick scan that gets thrown up every time someone is asked to prove WW's speed.

Jesse Quick has nothing to do with the speed feat. It's entering the speed force and NOT having a connection to it, that is the feat. Thanks tho.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Jesse Quick has nothing to do with the speed feat. It's entering the speed force and NOT having a connection to it, that is the feat. Thanks tho.

Is that supposed to pass as a legit speed feat? Being dragged?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO you are using JAY garrick as proof that BA is as fast as wonder Woman? OMG. 😆 😆 😆 And if you pay attention, once Jay taps into the speed force, he's clearly moving too fast for BA to react to. I'd say you need to try harder.

Yes, Im using Black Adam matching the third greatest Flash's speed while he was in the speed force. BTW, they were trading bows even while he was in the sped force, or did you not notice the guy in the black suit throwing punches?

Can you provide better? I doubt it.