Black Adam vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Larceny
Look at the third page, second panel. You see the lasso suddenly around Jesse, no WW. You then see WW's face, and after WW hanging inanimately from the lasso.

The way you twist and manipulate feats are amazing. BA was pulled into the speed force? How then do you explain him matching Garrick while he was in there?

How the hell did the lasso Enter the speed force? IT got there on it's own According to you. WW says in the freaking panel, I've never travelled this fast, and she's even talking about the speed force as if it were herme's play thing. God do you hate her that much that you cant' see the evidence in your face? WW didn't get pulled into the speed force. That is the dummest thing i've heard. Jessee was already in the speed force. Fighting. WW had to enter AFTER her. Unless you think the magic lasso travels dimensions now on it's own. LMAO.

OH as for BA matching garrick while they are in the speed force, first of all, If BA really were connecting his punches, Jay would have been dead. No way he can take blows from Black Adam. The speed Aura protects him from things outside of it's influence. If BA is right there inside of it, then He would connect Directly with Jay. IT looks to me like Jay was the one keeping Atom off balance.

Originally posted by Larceny
Looks like Diana wraps the lasso around her and was dragged. She's even inanimately floating behind while the other two were running.

According to Diana's words they aren't in the Speed Force are they? None of the text supports they're in the Speed Force.

"I have reached the Barrier Field of the Speed Force!!!!"

...followed by...
"The Speed Force. My God--we're approaching the barrier--"

...after which Christina loses Hermes' Scroll which (I haven't read the issue) was boosting her speed. Then Jesse chases after her, is lasso'ed by Wonder Woman who then says...
"You plan will not work--you can no longer maintain enough speed [w/o the Hermes' Scroll?] to break the barrier!!"

After Christina lost the scroll and was chased by Jesse is when Wonder Woman lassoed Jesse. They are on the slower side of light.

I agree that it looks as if Diana is being dragged. She indirectly admits how much less her speed is when she say's she can't hold Jesse back. I mean, her magnitudes greater strength and supposedly equal speed should've made it a cinch?

How could Diana have lassoed Jesse? The same way Hulk back-handed the much faster Quicksilver, Deathstroke tagged Flash, or Wonder Woman tagged Flash in JLA:C. Coming at the racers from an angle or anticipation.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OH as for BA matching garrick while they are in the speed force, first of all, If BA really were connecting his punches, Jay would have been dead. No way he can take blows from Black Adam. The speed Aura protects him from things outside of it's influence. If BA is right there inside of it, then He would connect Directly with Jay. IT looks to me like Jay was the one keeping Atom off balance.

Does it matter if Black Adam is actually empowered by the Speed Force? That could account for Jay's continued protection.

Originally posted by lft4ded
According to Diana's words they aren't in the Speed Force are they? None of the text supports they're in the Speed Force.

"I have reached the Barrier Field of the Speed Force!!!!"

...followed by...
"The Speed Force. My God--we're approaching the barrier--"

...after which Christina loses Hermes' Scroll which (I haven't read the issue) was boosting her speed. Then Jesse chases after her, is lasso'ed by Wonder Woman who then says...
"You plan will not work--you can no longer maintain enough speed [w/o the Hermes' Scroll?] to break the barrier!!"

After Christina lost the scroll and was chased by Jesse is when Wonder Woman lassoed Jesse. They are on the slower side of light.

I agree that it looks as if Diana is being dragged. She indirectly admits how much less her speed is when she say's she can't hold Jesse back. I mean, her magnitudes greater strength and supposedly equal speed should've made it a cinch?

How could Diana have lassoed Jesse? The same way Hulk back-handed the much faster Quicksilver, Deathstroke tagged Flash, or Wonder Woman tagged Flash in JLA:C. Coming at the racers from an angle or anticipation.

Does it matter if Black Adam is actually empowered by the Speed Force? That could account for Jay's continued protection.

What in the world? The barrier she's talking about is when you enter the speed force and Can't come back. And Black Adam isn't empowered by the speed force. And How is Diana dragged when she Wasn't in the speed force. If oyu look at the pics, they went from being on the planet Earth to ANOTHER DIMENSION. WW enters the Dimension after Jessee and THEN lassos her. So she threw the lasso from Earth into the speed force? 😕 😕 And then Got dragged into the speed force by Jessee? Makes not a bit of sense. The only explaination is what Diana says on panel. She's never travelled that fast before and she entered uner her own power.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What in the world? The barrier she's talking about is when you enter the speed force and Can't come back. And Black Adam isn't empowered by the speed force. And How is Diana dragged when she Wasn't in the speed force. If oyu look at the pics, they went from being on the planet Earth to ANOTHER DIMENSION. WW enters the Dimension after Jessee and THEN lassos her. So she threw the lasso from Earth into the speed force? 😕 😕 And then Got dragged into the speed force by Jessee? Makes not a bit of sense. The only explaination is what Diana says on panel. She's never travelled that fast before and she entered uner her own power.

They never crossed the barrier according to the pics, thus they never made it into the Speed Force. Brushed up against it maybe, but Max has done it repeatedly and Bart actually forced SMP up against the edge before Barry and the others helped to pull him in. Unless the status quo has changed only two people have entered the Speed Force and returned under their own power: Wally and Bart.

Besides, I think you're mis-attributing the words. They aren't Diana's but Jesse's. Jesse stole the scroll, it looked cool, b/c she was thrilled to fight beside her *dad and all those other speedsters*, she was selfish and it cost her 'Like you killed my dad. Like you destroyed my mother's spirit'. I may be wrong but Diana doesn't have a 'dad'.

However Diana managed to rope Jesse, if she was as fast as Jesse was at that moment then her far superior strength should've made it a cinch to stop her or ,PIS, force Jesse to stop perhaps.

What Diana says on panel is that Christina no longer had the speed to cross the Barrier thanks to the loss of the Scroll, which happened before Diana lasso'ed Jesse. Jesse was chasing after someone not going fast enough to cross the Barrier, this is when Wonder Woman caught up with them.

It makes not a bit of sense that Diana would have question's about Hermes Nordic Track.

Likewise I think you misunderstood my statement about Black Adam. You said that he and Jay were in the Speed Force and thus any protection afforded Jay by it were null. I questioned that even if they were both in the Speed Force, since Adam doesn't gain his speed from it, perhaps Jay's protection wouldn't have been nullified.

Originally posted by lft4ded
They never crossed the barrier according to the pics, thus they never made it into the Speed Force. Brushed up against it maybe, but Max has done it repeatedly and Bart actually forced SMP up against the edge before Barry and the others helped to pull him in. Unless the status quo has changed only two people have entered the Speed Force and returned under their own power: Wally and Bart.

Besides, I think you're mis-attributing the words. They aren't Diana's but Jesse's. Jesse stole the scroll, it looked cool, b/c she was thrilled to fight beside her *dad and all those other speedsters*, she was selfish and it cost her 'Like you killed my dad. Like you destroyed my mother's spirit'. I may be wrong but Diana doesn't have a 'dad'.

However Diana managed to rope Jesse, if she was as fast as Jesse was at that moment then her far superior strength should've made it a cinch to stop her or ,PIS, force Jesse to stop perhaps.

What Diana says on panel is that Christina no longer had the speed to cross the Barrier thanks to the loss of the Scroll, which happened before Diana lasso'ed Jesse. Jesse was chasing after someone not going fast enough to cross the Barrier, this is when Wonder Woman caught up with them.

It makes not a bit of sense that Diana would have question's about Hermes Nordic Track.

Likewise I think you misunderstood my statement about Black Adam. You said that he and Jay were in the Speed Force and thus any protection afforded Jay by it were null. I questioned that even if they were both in the Speed Force, since Adam doesn't gain his speed from it, perhaps Jay's protection wouldn't have been nullified.

Owned. 👆

Originally posted by lft4ded
They never crossed the barrier according to the pics, thus they never made it into the Speed Force. Brushed up against it maybe, but Max has done it repeatedly and Bart actually forced SMP up against the edge before Barry and the others helped to pull him in. Unless the status quo has changed only two people have entered the Speed Force and returned under their own power: Wally and Bart.

Besides, I think you're mis-attributing the words. They aren't Diana's but Jesse's. Jesse stole the scroll, it looked cool, b/c she was thrilled to fight beside her *dad and all those other speedsters*, she was selfish and it cost her 'Like you killed my dad. Like you destroyed my mother's spirit'. I may be wrong but Diana doesn't have a 'dad'.

However Diana managed to rope Jesse, if she was as fast as Jesse was at that moment then her far superior strength should've made it a cinch to stop her or ,PIS, force Jesse to stop perhaps.

What Diana says on panel is that Christina no longer had the speed to cross the Barrier thanks to the loss of the Scroll, which happened before Diana lasso'ed Jesse. Jesse was chasing after someone not going fast enough to cross the Barrier, this is when Wonder Woman caught up with them.

It makes not a bit of sense that Diana would have question's about Hermes Nordic Track.

Likewise I think you misunderstood my statement about Black Adam. You said that he and Jay were in the Speed Force and thus any protection afforded Jay by it were null. I questioned that even if they were both in the Speed Force, since Adam doesn't gain his speed from it, perhaps Jay's protection wouldn't have been nullified.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
since when did jessee start talking about greek gods? how did ww lasso jesee fighting

She wasn't. She was talking specfically about Hermes. Why? She stole Hermes' Scroll from Savitar's library. That is the artifact that Christina was using to boost her speed.

How did Professor Hulk smack a Quicksilver who can count bullets from a mini-gun while reading a magazine and building a full-scale Lego castle? Wally, before he became 'the fastest man who's ever lived', reacted to a bullet after it made contact with his skin. Deathstroke stabbing him?

However Wonder Woman did it, she didn't enter the Speed Force to do it.

Originally posted by lft4ded
She wasn't. She was talking specfically about Hermes. Why? She stole Hermes' Scroll from Savitar's library. That is the artifact that Christina was using to boost her speed.

How did Professor Hulk smack a Quicksilver who can count bullets from a mini-gun while reading a magazine and building a full-scale Lego castle? Wally, before he became 'the fastest man who's ever lived', reacted to a bullet after it made contact with his skin. Deathstroke stabbing him?

However Wonder Woman did it, she didn't enter the Speed Force to do it.

More ownage. 👆

Originally posted by Larceny
I'm thinking about changing my name to Badabang. ✅

Originally posted by lft4ded
She wasn't. She was talking specfically about Hermes. Why? She stole Hermes' Scroll from Savitar's library. That is the artifact that Christina was using to boost her speed.

How did Professor Hulk smack a Quicksilver who can count bullets from a mini-gun while reading a magazine and building a full-scale Lego castle? Wally, before he became 'the fastest man who's ever lived', reacted to a bullet after it made contact with his skin. Deathstroke stabbing him?

However Wonder Woman did it, she didn't enter the Speed Force to do it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Becuz you said so? YOu fail to realize that Jessee was ON a different plane of reality than WW once JEssee entered the speed force. YOu know so much, tell us how in the HELL WW lassoed Jesse unless she herself entered the speed force? IT's fine that all of those people you mentioned hit people faster than them, but all of those people don't enter different dimensions when going beyond a certain speed. What you are saying is like someone hitting Thor While he is flying at light speed. But you are failing to mention that Thor had entered the rainbow bridge and left the person behind him? HOw would they hit Thor unless they themselves were able to cross the rainbow bridge? You have no true motive except it would seem to be a hater. How in the HELL did WW hit Jessee unless she herself entered the speed force. We know jesee DIDN"T drag wondy, becuz JEssee had enough time to enter the speed force, fight savitar, and then WW lassos. NOw, You who think WW didn't enter the speed force need to find a way to explain WW lassoing Jessee when WW wasn't dragged into the speed force, and you seem to think she didn't get there on her own. Do tell us genius, How Wondy lassoed Jessee from Outside of the speed force? Since you seem to think WW hit Jessee with sheer Luck and no speed. I mean, if I was chasing someone, and I wanted to lasso them, At some point, I would have to match thier speed in order to get the lasso around them. And not to mention that at some point, if they have a lead on me, I'd have to gain ground actually over taking thier speed at least for a while to get close enough to lasso them. So Tell us, How did Wondy Get a lasso around jessee since Wondy Was behind her, AND was OUTside of the speed force when Jessee entered.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Becuz you said so? YOu fail to realize that Jessee was ON a different plane of reality than WW once JEssee entered the speed force. YOu know so much, tell us how in the HELL WW lassoed Jesse unless she herself entered the speed force? IT's fine that all of those people you mentioned hit people faster than them, but all of those people don't enter different dimensions when going beyond a certain speed. What you are saying is like someone hitting Thor While he is flying at light speed. But you are failing to mention that Thor had entered the rainbow bridge and left the person behind him? HOw would they hit Thor unless they themselves were able to cross the rainbow bridge? You have no true motive except it would seem to be a hater. How in the HELL did WW hit Jessee unless she herself entered the speed force. We know jesee DIDN"T drag wondy, becuz JEssee had enough time to enter the speed force, fight savitar, and then WW lassos. NOw, You who think WW didn't enter the speed force need to find a way to explain WW lassoing Jessee when WW wasn't dragged into the speed force, and you seem to think she didn't get there on her own. Do tell us genius, How Wondy lassoed Jessee from Outside of the speed force? Since you seem to think WW hit Jessee with sheer Luck and no speed. I mean, if I was chasing someone, and I wanted to lasso them, At some point, I would have to match thier speed in order to get the lasso around them. And not to mention that at some point, if they have a lead on me, I'd have to gain ground actually over taking thier speed at least for a while to get close enough to lasso them. So Tell us, How did Wondy Get a lasso around jessee since Wondy Was behind her, AND was OUTside of the speed force when Jessee entered. Becuz you said so? YOu fail to realize that Jessee was ON a different plane of reality than WW once JEssee entered the speed force. YOu know so much, tell us how in the HELL WW lassoed Jesse unless she herself entered the speed force? IT's fine that all of those people you mentioned hit people faster than them, but all of those people don't enter different dimensions when going beyond a certain speed. What you are saying is like someone hitting Thor While he is flying at light speed. But you are failing to mention that Thor had entered the rainbow bridge and left the person behind him? HOw would they hit Thor unless they themselves were able to cross the rainbow bridge? You have no true motive except it would seem to be a hater. How in the HELL did WW hit Jessee unless she herself entered the speed force. We know jesee DIDN"T drag wondy, becuz JEssee had enough time to enter the speed force, fight savitar, and then WW lassos. NOw, You who think WW didn't enter the speed force need to find a way to explain WW lassoing Jessee when WW wasn't dragged into the speed force, and you seem to think she didn't get there on her own. Do tell us genius, How Wondy lassoed Jessee from Outside of the speed force? Since you seem to think WW hit Jessee with sheer Luck and no speed. I mean, if I was chasing someone, and I wanted to lasso them, At some point, I would have to match thier speed in order to get the lasso around them. And not to mention that at some point, if they have a lead on me, I'd have to gain ground actually over taking thier speed at least for a while to get close enough to lasso them. So Tell us, How did Wondy Get a lasso around jessee since Wondy Was behind her, AND was OUTside of the speed force when Jessee entered. Becuz you said so? YOu fail to realize that Jessee was ON a different plane of reality than WW once JEssee entered the speed force. YOu know so much, tell us how in the HELL WW lassoed Jesse unless she herself entered the speed force? IT's fine that all of those people you mentioned hit people faster than them, but all of those people don't enter different dimensions when going beyond a certain speed. What you are saying is like someone hitting Thor While he is flying at light speed. But you are failing to mention that Thor had entered the rainbow bridge and left the person behind him? HOw would they hit Thor unless they themselves were able to cross the rainbow bridge? You have no true motive except it would seem to be a hater. How in the HELL did WW hit Jessee unless she herself entered the speed force. We know jesee DIDN"T drag wondy, becuz JEssee had enough time to enter the speed force, fight savitar, and then WW lassos. NOw, You who think WW didn't enter the speed force need to find a way to explain WW lassoing Jessee when WW wasn't dragged into the speed force, and you seem to think she didn't get there on her own. Do tell us genius, How Wondy lassoed Jessee from Outside of the speed force? Since you seem to think WW hit Jessee with sheer Luck and no speed. I mean, if I was chasing someone, and I wanted to lasso them, At some point, I would have to match thier speed in order to get the lasso around them. And not to mention that at some point, if they have a lead on me, I'd have to gain ground actually over taking thier speed at least for a while to get close enough to lasso them. So Tell us, How did Wondy Get a lasso around jessee since Wondy Was behind her, AND was OUTside of the speed force when Jessee entered.Becuz you said so? YOu fail to realize that Jessee was ON a different plane of reality than WW once JEssee entered the speed force. YOu know so much, tell us how in the HELL WW lassoed Jesse unless she herself entered the speed force? IT's fine that all of those people you mentioned hit people faster than them, but all of those people don't enter different dimensions when going beyond a certain speed. What you are saying is like someone hitting Thor While he is flying at light speed. But you are failing to mention that Thor had entered the rainbow bridge and left the person behind him? HOw would they hit Thor unless they themselves were able to cross the rainbow bridge? You have no true motive except it would seem to be a hater. How in the HELL did WW hit Jessee unless she herself entered the speed force. We know jesee DIDN"T drag wondy, becuz JEssee had enough time to enter the speed force, fight savitar, and then WW lassos. NOw, You who think WW didn't enter the speed force need to find a way to explain WW lassoing Jessee when WW wasn't dragged into the speed force, and you seem to think she didn't get there on her own. Do tell us genius, How Wondy lassoed Jessee from Outside of the speed force? Since you seem to think WW hit Jessee with sheer Luck and no speed. I mean, if I was chasing someone, and I wanted to lasso them, At some point, I would have to match thier speed in order to get the lasso around them. And not to mention that at some point, if they have a lead on me, I'd have to gain ground actually over taking thier speed at least for a while to get close enough to lasso them. So Tell us, How did Wondy Get a lasso around jessee since Wondy Was behind her, AND was OUTside of the speed force when Jessee entered.

There, now it's a building. 🙂

Originally posted by Val
Stopped reading.

I dont' remember it being addressed to you. So why you think you were important enough for me to care is beyond me.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
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I've reported both of you. Have a nice night. Trolling, baiting, and flaming will not be tolerated by me. If you feel that you need to do so, I will keep on reporting you both.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
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Stopped reading.

Wow Val this is fun! 😱

Originally posted by Larceny
Stopped reading.

Wow Val this is fun! 😱

Reported.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Are you drunk? Jessee and Savitar are fighting in the speed force. There is NO LASSO on jessee. WW enters the speed force clearly after the two had been in there fighting. She then wraps the lasso around jessee. What the hell are you drinking? Can I have some? Making you see things. And Ba was pulled into the speed force with Flash. He's right there as Jay enters. And read the panel. Diana is talking about how she's never moved this fast before and how this used to be Herme's nordick track or something like that. She does get her speed directly from Hermes.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I've reported both of you. Have a nice night. Trolling, baiting, and flaming will not be tolerated by me. If you feel that you need to do so, I will keep on reporting you both.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' remember it being addressed to you. So why you think you were important enough for me to care is beyond me.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Reported.

Thats ironic. You can report people for refusing to read your post? ermm

Originally posted by nvr