Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok but we still have the psi-blast as a possible telepathic feat.
Originally posted by XplosiveA (possible) psi blast sucker punch causing a telepath pain gives no indication of the level of telepathic skill (as a psi-blast is a comparatively basic telepathic action) nor the level of telepathic power, as telepaths are not innately immune nor passively resistant to telepathy, a psi blast on Xavier is no more of a feat than a psi blast on other humans/mutants.
Why do you paly a fool, when you know that Apocalypse displayed telepathy.
Psi-blast on Xavier would surely be enough for Gladiator.
Additionally, single time feat to ascribe telepathic power and prowess?
Emma Frost has telekinesis.
Mystique is a phaser.
Mr Fantastic can turn into a liquid. (from Mungi)
Re: Re: Apocalypse vs. Gladiator
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
A non-jobbing Apoc should be able to take him for a majority.
if by that you mean get thrown into the sun and embarrased then yes. Oh, but then again Apoc has his mighty telepathy doesn't he? pfft since he uses it sooo much, it might only serve to get him a few wins. This isn't classic Apoc anyways
I'm sick of Glads jobbing, if he were written half-decent - threads like this wouldn't exist.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
A (possible) psi blast sucker punch causing a telepath pain gives no indication of the level of telepathic skill (as a psi-blast is a comparatively basic telepathic action) nor the level of telepathic power, as telepaths are not innately immune nor passively resistant to telepathy, a psi blast on Xavier is no more of a feat than a psi blast on other humans/mutants.
Yeah but that doesnt change anything. We still can consider it to be a psi-blast and Gladiator is still vulnerable to psi-blasts. Psi-blasts are a form of telepathy right?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Additionally, single time feat to ascribe telepathic power and prowess?Emma Frost has telekinesis.
Mystique is a phaser.
Mr Fantastic can turn into a liquid. (from Mungi)
I think its still allowed on this forum. We were discussing Wolverine vs Namor and somebody brought up the point that eventhough Namor hardly uses electroblast on this forum its a possible option.
Re: Re: Re: Apocalypse vs. Gladiator
Originally posted by boriquaking55gladiator should win this with such ease. i agree that this threa dshouldnt exist. its an insult to gladiator in my opinion.
if by that you mean get thrown into the sun and embarrased then yes. Oh, but then again Apoc has his mighty telepathy doesn't he? pfft since he uses it sooo much, it might only serve to get him a few wins. This isn't classic Apoc anywaysI'm sick of Glads jobbing, if he were written half-decent - threads like this wouldn't exist.
Originally posted by AlfheimWe can consider it a psiblast, just for sake of argument (although I'll reiterate here that it is ambiguous).
Yeah but that doesnt change anything. We still can consider it to be a psi-blast and Gladiator is still vulnerable to psi-blasts. Psi-blasts are a form of telepathy right?
The psiblast, singular, gives no indication of the level of telepathic skill nor power. So, that he has once performed a psiblast sucker punch does not mean he has sufficient telepathic ability to down Gladiator, and do so before Gladiator (at 100% confidence apparently) in this thread attacks him with his speed strength and other Superman rip off powers.
Originally posted by Alfheim
I think its still allowed on this forum. We were discussing Wolverine vs Namor and somebody brought up the point that eventhough Namor hardly uses electroblast on this forum its a possible option.
The latter is a straight up writer/artist error. The former a one-time feat.
Which of these the (pseudo) psiblast was I'm not going to hazard a guess, but I'm not partial to either anyway.
You're inquiry into Cyclopalypse had me go back and look at X-Men #97, Apocalypse is being amplified in a Celestial device that has drawn energy from The Twelve and Nate Grey, which furthers its suspect nature.
Together with this 'psiblast feat,' Apocalypse has one mind reading feat, an inability to access the Astral Plane. He showed strong mental defenses, yes, in one instance, but when penetrated by Jean via her bond with Scott, he showed no ability to counteract her mind control, nor counteract being ejected from Scott's body. Ergo there is nothing to suggest he's a "first order telepath" as someone from this site has probably put on Wikipedia.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
We can consider it a psiblast, just for sake of argument (although I'll reiterate here that it is ambiguous).The psiblast, singular, gives no indication of the level of telepathic skill nor power. So, that he has once performed a psiblast sucker punch does not mean he has sufficient telepathic ability to down Gladiator, and do so before Gladiator (at 100% confidence apparently) in this thread attacks him with his speed strength and other Superman rip off powers.
I guess we can only speculate if its enough to hurt Glads.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Namor has a power to mimic the abilities of other sea creatures, so on an occasion has blown himself up like a pufferfish
Emma Frost is a telepath, with no active telekinesis, but has on occasion been depicted using telekinesis.The latter is a straight up writer/artist error. The former a one-time feat.
Which of these the (pseudo) psiblast was I'm not going to hazard a guess, but I'm not partial to either anyway.
Well im just saying im sure one-team feats are allowed on this forum.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You're inquiry into Cyclopalypse had me go back and look at X-Men #97, Apocalypse is being amplified in a Celestial device that has drawn energy from The Twelve and Nate Grey, which furthers its suspect nature.Together with this 'psiblast feat,' Apocalypse has one mind reading feat, an inability to access the Astral Plane. He showed strong mental defenses, yes, in one instance, but when penetrated by Jean via her bond with Scott, he showed no ability to counteract her mind control, nor counteract being ejected from Scott's body. Ergo there is nothing to suggest he's a "first order telepath" as someone from this site has probably put on Wikipedia.
Didnt Apoc travel to the astral with Cable in the Onslaught Saga?
Well I guess we can say since Apoc has fought Ikaris he should be able to defeat Glads.