Originally posted by SteelEagle
No offense, but he was a bit weakened thus allowing Ash to beat him easily, either that or Ash is just crazy powerful...
He ha just finished going through the wringer after battling against Kyo an Shingo... he was in no position to challenge Ash. But this in no way validates Sado's claim that Riot Iori is the weaker of Iori's two forms. Nor does it valiate that Iori was stronger than Goenitz during the events of 96.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zerohaermm
He ha just finished going through the wringer after battling against Kyo an Shingo... he was in no position to challenge Ash. But this in no way validates Sado's claim that Riot Iori is the weaker of Iori's two forms. Nor does it valiate that Iori was stronger than Goenitz during the events of 96.
Be a sport. Come on mane don't be like that. You know I don't like making an effort. Besides, those links are probably in some lond dead thread. Looking for them would be a lot even for someone less lazy. I guess they weren't iron clad to begin w/or otherwise DSZ would be saying the same stuff you are. You can post them again, it won't kill you. It'll give you something other to do besides 'net beefin' w/DSZ
The Kusanagi an Yagami flames arn't normal flames... comparing them to Shingo's is utterly pointless... Their flames are that of the Magatama. The Magatama flames are what Seale OIrochi the first time, an thats why they do it again in 97, no mortal has the power to overcome an immortal Sado... they neither had the strength, nor the power to match him any other way...
Being overrun by the Doll's each of whom have a subtle influence on the Drive is by no means a bad defeat...
And what? being fefeated by a Shoryuken is ba because?... it's Ryu? even after fighting 4 people?
Mature and Vice worked for Rugal for 10 years... you know, WHEN he aquired his Orochi power?
WTF?! Goenitz hospitalised Kyo in their first bout.
An again, Iori was NOT weakened... will you stop it? your making an ass out of yourself every time you o this... you try to make feats seem more impressive than they are with claims like that.
Said to be.... again you jump on vague quotation. saying "This person A feeels stronger than person B was" is not a countermanding argument for who has simply done more powerul and impressive stuff.
Blow me...
Ok, Iori, Didn't fight them all at once for starters, he didn't do a Rugal.
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22
thanks for the not true info darko. i already knew that. the fact of the matter is that the kusanagi flames are not special. which is exactly why evne shingo could weild them and why Kyo's cousin, Ai, could weild the yagami purple flames. they are simply the result of training in their art form which employs use of flames (similar to mishima's use of electricity).
the flames werent kryptonite and Orochi has no weakness against it like kryptonite.
why do you wish to go around in circles all the time.
Kusanagi flames are natural, thats the difference bitween them an ki powers one earns through training.
Of course training will help strangthen a Kusanagi's flame powers, but you' better be able to prove that that Require training to bring it out.
Originally posted by Sado22
sure...
it';s the truth Sado, Bison's body was already dying, the very evice that provide his unlimited energy an regeneration was also unstable ue to the Doll's interferance (Such as Cammy)
Originally posted by Sado22
its like i'm talking to a someone who can talk like a donkey and a goat at the same time ,really. "baa", "he ha", "fefeat"
your keyboard is awesome! 😆
Your attacking my keyboard's functionality? whats the point of that?
Originally posted by Sado22
and, they were with him while he was pwning Kyo and gang. Vice is literally the one who brainwashed Saishu for him, dark. why are you arguing a point that i proved wrong at first go and you already know it. when we first see vice and mature they were working for Rugal. wtf is your argument?
My point is that they where separated from Goenitz for an extended length of time, an had only really just started getting to know Iori, who are they to make such a jugement without doubt?
Originally posted by Sado22
yes, i know. and Iori did it to an vastly improved Kyo in KoFXI. and on top of all that he literally sealed Orochi..........you think Geonitz can do that too? please.
What have I always tol you about this dude...
I'll say it again... CURRENT Iori may be stronger than Goenitz was, I never disputed that.
But Iori back in 96? Hell no.... No way was he stronger, he required Kyo's help to defeat him for christ's sake.
Originally posted by Sado22
coming form the guy who types "heehaa" 😆
look, mane (damn you, brainy, i'm starting to say it too now!), it said clearly that Iori power was declining steadily. i don't know what the means in hehaland, but on planet earth it means that the person's is getting weaker.
Yeah, after just fighting off Kyo an Shingo...
And your forgetting one very basic thing... R.Iori in't start out weakene, nor oes it say that it was the Orochi blood that caused the drain, or the fact that he was in riot mode that caused it...
Does that mean he is weaker than normal Iori? no...
See what I mean by too vague?
Cut out your half assed half shitty assumptions Sado.
Pointing out typing errors due to a malfiunction with the keyboard is not too bright Sado...
Originally posted by Sado22
that's the point of FAQ's darko. you take what they SAY and that is how we form our opinion on something. Akuma's island was SAID TO DISAPPEAR, but in ryu's ending we see it there. but that never stopped you people from saying he did sink the island now did it?
We see it exploding and sinking, the quote is backed by visual representation. there is a difference.
Originally posted by Sado22
sure....*blows him away with his facts*
You've never shown a single fact I cannot reasonably explain Sado, don't flatter yourself.
Originally posted by Sado22
all the fighters jumped on him in that tournament. all fighters like Terry, Ryo, Kyo, Athena kim etc. they all attacked him and he was EVENTUALLY subdued.~Sado
The difference is, he never fought them simultaneously like Rugal did. Like Bison, they where all separate fights.
Kusanagi flames are natural, thats the difference bitween them an ki powers one earns through training. Of course training will help strangthen a Kusanagi's flame powers, but you' better be able to prove that that Require training to bring it out.
Your attacking my keyboard's functionality? whats the point of that?
My point is that they where separated from Goenitz for an extended length of time, an had only really just started getting to know Iori, who are they to make such a jugement without doubt?
I'll say it again... CURRENT Iori may be stronger than Goenitz was, I never disputed that. But Iori back in 96? Hell no.... No way was he stronger, he required Kyo's help to defeat him for christ's sake.
Yeah, after just fighting off Kyo an Shingo...
And your forgetting one very basic thing... R.Iori in't start out weakene, nor oes it say that it was the Orochi blood that caused the drain, or the fact that he was in riot mode that caused it...
Does that mean he is weaker than normal Iori? no...
We see it exploding and sinking, the quote is backed by visual representation. there is a difference.
The difference is, he never fought them simultaneously like Rugal did. Like Bison, they where all separate fights
~Sado
Some things should be made pretty obvious.
there's no prof that shingo ever threw sparks of any sort. it was possibly just him being delusional which seems more logical, seeing that he's not a character taken seriously.
i think it's pretty obvious rob iori is stronger than regular. We can never be sure whether iori could beat a fresh geonitz by himself back in 96, storywise.
you can't just take someone's personal opinions as a fact. it's like how some ppl claim that muhamid ali in his prime is better than mike tyson in his prime. it's not something that can be proven.
Originally posted by Sado22
proof? i already gave you proof of Shingo doing it. he aint a kusanagi, so how come he can weild those "natural" flames. they attributed solely to his training with Saishu.
the other proof i gave you was Iori's own words:
"he never teach the yagami ryu flames to anyone but a yagami".
case closed.
Shingo never did it.... Ever.....
He doesn't wield Magatama flames, he wields flames like Ryu wields energy, or like Terry wields energy, or like Benimaru wields lightning.
Originally posted by Sado22
i am not attacking your keyboard, dark. i was mentioning how some of the words are hilarious. trying to water down the heat in this argument.
Right....
Originally posted by Sado22
they were with Geonitz before even meeting Rugal. they were under his service for what would seem their whole life. at least once they awakened to their true powers anyway.
they around an year with Iori and watched him train and his performance during the whole 96 tourny. one year is enough to know a persons power epsecially if you have to watch it up close and live.
10 years they where with Rugal, thats a heckof a ling tome to be separated from Goenitz Sado, people do change
Originally posted by Sado22
Iori never required Kyo's help. lets be clear on that. all we know is that Iori jumped in to "save" kyo from goenitz. we can't assume that iori couldn't have taken down Geonitz on his own.
Yes we can, because Kyo was still fighting after Iori jumped in... or are you going to assume that Kyo took a breather as soon as Iori jumped in?
Originally posted by Sado22
fighting off Kyo and Shingo? basically you mean fighting Kyo since Shingo is not even his left nut. and now let me get this straight:
iori fights in the tourny, goes into riot, has the whole cast pwn him, fight O Yashiro and the fights Orochi without a trace of fatigue................but can't take on Kyo without having his powers decline steadily?
come on. frankly this more than proves that O Iori is weaker since normal Iori did worse than all that and still was strong enough to neutralize Orochi in the end.
Yeah, right after coming out of Riot mode... And one other thing, in 97 he never owned the whole cast, more like half,since theother half where fighting Leona, and you still have no proof that he fought any of the teams simultaneously.
As for fatigue, I told you, people grow stronger, both Kyoand shingo are no exeption to this. that proves absolutely nothing,and if it ever did, it could very well mean it was an isolated incident, since it's never happened before or since.
Originally posted by Sado22
as i said above, yes.
and if you call me an @$$ don't sit and expect me NOT to respond. and i didn't flame you as such either. i'm a nice guy 🙂
I din't call you an @$$, learn to read what I actually said, I said:
"Cut out your half assed, half shitty assumptions"
Which is exactly what they are, assumptions that disreguard every other fact in there.
Originally posted by Sado22
we only see one small place that is burning and the next we see ryu is in the ocean.
You see debri's flying everywhere, you see a volcanic eruption, and Ryu is out in the bloody ocean, what else do you need? it's not vague like the quotes your using. at least there is other onscreen evidence to back it up.
Originally posted by Sado22
no he DID fight them simultaneously. ALL the fighters attacked him. smae with Rugal.~Sado
See above, I've already provided two points that tear this to shreds.
Originally posted by Sado22Shit! @least point me to the thread. If you don't you're just as bad as I am w/the laziness
*shakes his head like a little kid*
Na-ah!
Originally posted by lightnessDitto. I've been saying that for a while. Sado jumps to conclusions sometimes *points to Rock/K' thread*
you can't just take someone's personal opinions as a fact. it's like how some ppl claim that muhamid ali in his prime is better than mike tyson in his prime. it's not something that can be proven.
Originally posted by Guilty Gear😆 You're a bad person mane
Yes lightness, thak you.
Shingo never did it.... Ever.....
Right....
10 years they where with Rugal, thats a heckof a ling tome to be separated from Goenitz Sado, people do change
Yes we can, because Kyo was still fighting after Iori jumped in... or are you going to assume that Kyo took a breather as soon as Iori jumped in?
Yeah, right after coming out of Riot mode... And one other thing, in 97 he never owned the whole cast, more like half,since theother half where fighting Leona, and you still have no proof that he fought any of the teams simultaneously
"Cut out your half assed, half shitty assumptions"
You see debri's flying everywhere, you see a volcanic eruption, and Ryu is out in the bloody ocean, what else do you need? it's not vague like the quotes your using. at least there is other onscreen evidence to back it up.
as for ONSCREEN EVIDENCE, i gave you the best one yet....Ash's own words. but you just insist on playing a retard.
See above, I've already provided two points that tear this to shreds
"when the evil darko bullsh!ts
sado-sama strikes with amazing facts"
come on! everyone loves TMNTdonatello
💃
that takes care of Dark-oh-please-shut-me-up-storm
now....
Some things should be made pretty obvious.
there's no prof that shingo ever threw sparks of any sort. it was possibly just him being delusional which seems more logical, seeing that he's not a character taken seriously.
i think it's pretty obvious rob iori is stronger than regular. We can never be sure whether iori could beat a fresh geonitz by himself back in 96, storywise.
you can't just take someone's personal opinions as a fact. it's like how some ppl claim that muhamid ali in his prime is better than mike tyson in his prime. it's not something that can be proven.
Ditto. I've been saying that for a while. Sado jumps to conclusions sometimes *points to Rock/K' thread*
~Sado