Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Iceman once impaled Magneto with a giant ice spike. I don't remember what happened exactly after that but it was pretty much Magneto laughing saying that because of his powers of magnetism he could control ice and that his body just metabolized the ice spike and made him stronger.
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Silly child... 🙄
When he is using his powers, the magnetic energy inside him render his body’s durability and strength to Class 100 levels, enabling him to do such things as…
Break from Hercules’s bear hug and send him flying:
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/5774/sgrip3pj.jpg
Take a powerful punch from Colossus to the head while weakened, without shields and not suffer any injuries:
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/492/magcolagain3pg.jpg
Go toe to toe with Colossus while weakened:
http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/3473/maggoesh2hwithcolossus9xs.jpg
Knock out Rogue with one gesture:
http://img448.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magphysicallybeatsrogue4vt.jpg
Go physically against some X-Men:
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2320/magsgetsphysical7sp.jpg
Not to mention that he was able to take full power energy assault from Bishop who had absorbed energies of nearly all energy using X-Men and the energy of the said X-Men without shield…and was still able to talk.
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9531/magtakesallenergyofxmen3gi.jpg
He has been able to lessen the effects of multiple nukes while feeling the pain equal of having electric drills through his eyes…and the nukes were right next to him. Not to mention that he actually succeeded to completely nullify the effects. And he was fine in moments (after taking another incredible pain when he channeled all the magnetic energies of the earth through him) and was able to battle top-notch condition Joseph and the X-men.
Originally posted by Validus
Rubbish. Any scan of Magneto going to hand to hand with Colossus is highly suspect.
I wanna know something. Can magneto have all his molecules go to absolute zero and survive? Mags isnt the only one who has controlled blood. Iceman did so to emma frost. Iceman can exist as water vapor in such an area that while magneto might be able to control said water vapor, he wouldnt know which water vapor is Iceman and which is plain water vapor (as sentinals couldnt even detect his mutant signature).
Iceman doesnt have to go the physical route to beat him (and he would lose if he did).
But for the easiest win? Stop all of Mags molecules 😬
Originally posted by Blair Wind
I wanna know something. Can magneto have all his molecules go to absolute zero and survive? Mags isnt the only one who has controlled blood. Iceman did so to emma frost. Iceman can exist as water vapor in such an area that while magneto might be able to control said water vapor, he wouldnt know which water vapor is Iceman and which is plain water vapor (as sentinals couldnt even detect his mutant signature).
Iceman doesnt have to go the physical route to beat him (and he would lose if he did).
But for the easiest win? Stop all of Mags molecules 😬
Iceman can make it go ALMOST absolute zero.
Oh, and you're post holds about as much merit as me saying Magneto sucks his life force out ie the bottle effect.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Iceman once impaled Magneto with a giant ice spike. I don't remember what happened exactly after that but it was pretty much Magneto laughing saying that because of his powers of magnetism he could control ice and that his body just metabolized the ice spike and made him stronger.
This should be an open and shut deal. Magneto wins.
Originally posted by batdude123
Iceman can make it go ALMOST absolute zero.Oh, and you're post holds about as much merit as me saying Magneto sucks his life force out ie the bottle effect.
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Is that SUPPOSED to be an insult? Did you just call your own post rubbish? Because anything Ive said Iceman has done more than once (unlike your life force scan 🙄 )
Virtually and almost are not the same thing. The scan that we use to determine how cold iceman can go says virtually. Its so close that there isnt a significant difference. Like saying .000000001 is significanly different from .0000000001. Its not that big of a deal. For all intents and purposes? He can stop molecular motion to absolute zero. Besides how is Magneto going to find out where he is? He can be in any part of the water vapor and water vapor is water vapor no matter if Iceman is inhabiting it or not.
Why does it have to be a physical matter (ie Iceman impales him?)
Iceman does the miousture inversion trick and he can do many different things:
A) Stop his molecular motion
B) Create a "iceman" to fight magneto while dehyradting him like storm was doing in your own scan (and iceman can do it MUCH quicker by just ripping his water out)
C) Miousture inversion his head (and how can he defend against that?)
E) Transmute the water in Mags body to gas (just like he transmuted Ice into water)
Originally posted by Blair Wind
😐Is that SUPPOSED to be an insult? Did you just call your own post rubbish? Because anything Ive said Iceman has done more than once (unlike your life force scan 🙄 )
Virtually and almost are not the same thing. The scan that we use to determine how cold iceman can go says virtually. Its so close that there isnt a significant difference. Like saying .000000001 is significanly different from .0000000001. Its not that big of a deal. For all intents and purposes? He can stop molecular motion to absolute zero. Besides how is Magneto going to find out where he is? He can be in any part of the water vapor and water vapor is water vapor no matter if Iceman is inhabiting it or not.
So you wanna get rough, huh Blair? 😂
Since Magneto can also control ice, and make the effects of it worth sh*t, what's to debate here? He used it to POWER HIMSELF UP. By your logic, this giant ice spike would've frozen his insides since it's VIRTUALLY absolute zero (Btw, space has also been proclaimed to be virtually absolute zero as well). And yet, Magneto LAUGHED and used it to power himself up. 😂
"Iceman once impaled Magneto with a giant ice spike. I don't remember what happened exactly after that but it was pretty much Magneto laughing saying that because of his powers of magnetism he could control ice and that his body just metabolized the ice spike and made him stronger."
On top of that, Magneto could just suck the life force out of him just as easily as whatever Iceman can do. 😖 Or as juggernaut66666 said, reverse the gravity or increase it so that Iceman litterally couldn't do anything, and then.... what for it.... SUCK THE LIFE FORCE OUT OF HIM!!! Yay!!!! clap
Oh, and since apparently he can control Ice, that must mean it's part of the EM spectrum. And guess what? He can perceive the world solely as patterns of magnetic and electrical energy, and sense disruptions alongside magnetic lines of force (which encompass the entire planet).
http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magthrowscolossusoutfromroomwi.jpg
So, he'd know exactly where Iceman would be, and he could plan accordingly. Once he puts those shields up, Bobby is f*cked royally here. 😉
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Why does it have to be a physical matter (ie Iceman impales him?)
Iceman does the miousture inversion trick and he can do many different things:
A) Stop his molecular motion
B) Create a "iceman" to fight magneto while dehyradting him like storm was doing in your own scan (and iceman can do it MUCH quicker by just ripping his water out)
C) Miousture inversion his head (and how can he defend against that?)
E) Transmute the water in Mags body to gas (just like he transmuted Ice into water)
A. Yeah, I'd like to see Bobby do that. Especially once Magneto puts those shields up. 🙄
B. Magneto could sense which is the real one and attack Bobby.
C. There are dozens upon dozens of things Magneto could do to kill Bobby, while you only have a few.
D. Wow, transmutating ice into water. 😂 🙄 Not exactly a big step there, Blair. And it wouldn't exactly be called "transmutating" considering ice and water are the same damn chemical. 😂 So, there goes your transmutating argument out the window.
Originally posted by batdude123
So you wanna get rough, huh Blair? 😂Since Magneto can also control ice, and make the effects of it worth sh*t, what's to debate here? He used it to POWER HIMSELF UP. By your logic, this giant ice spike would've frozen his insides since it's VIRTUALLY absolute zero (Btw, space has also been proclaimed to be virtually absolute zero as well). And yet, Magneto LAUGHED and used it to power himself up. 😂
"Iceman once impaled Magneto with a giant ice spike. I don't remember what happened exactly after that but it was pretty much Magneto laughing saying that because of his powers of magnetism he could control ice and that his body just metabolized the ice spike and made him stronger."
On top of that, Magneto could just suck the life force out of him just as easily as whatever Iceman can do. 😖 Or as juggernaut66666 said, reverse the gravity or increase it so that Iceman litterally couldn't do anything, and then.... what for it.... SUCK THE LIFE FORCE OUT OF HIM!!! Yay!!!! clap
Oh, and since apparently he can control Ice, that must mean it's part of the EM spectrum. And guess what? He can perceive the world solely as patterns of magnetic and electrical energy, and sense disruptions alongside magnetic lines of force (which encompass the entire planet).
http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magthrowscolossusoutfromroomwi.jpg
So, he'd know exactly where Iceman would be, and he could plan accordingly. Once he puts those shields up, Bobby is f*cked royally here. 😉
Rough? You havent seen anything yet
😕 where are you getting this idea of pure "ice"? Look at my posts again. Read what I said. Magneto can control ice (and I of course would like to see this scan that your basing so much of it on) but can he control molecules in the way that Iceman can? The actual movement of them? oh and look at this again:
Why does it have to be a physical matter (ie Iceman impales him?)
Iceman does the miousture inversion trick and he can do many different things:
A) Stop his molecular motion
B) Create a "iceman" to fight magneto while dehydrating him like storm was doing in YOUR OWN scan (and iceman can do it MUCH quicker by just ripping his water out)
C) Miousture inversion his head (and how can he defend against that?)
E) Transmute the water in Mags body to gas (just like he transmuted Ice into water) How does he defend against this??
now lets think of this logically, again. You say Magneto would be able to tell where Iceman is because he can "see" water vapor. Listen to what you just said. Water vapor is ALREADY present in the air. Its ALL around us. Iceman can turn himself, and others to water vapor. Its not DIFFERENT from water vapor. Its all the same. No one could tell where icemans water vapor is compared to.......water vapor.
(oh and space? Iceman is king in terms of ice powers. He froze what space could not: Ie a Celestial ship and ALL OF ITS MOLECULES (actualy wording, everything it IS). You really think that Iceman cant go colder than space?)
