Originally posted by darthgooberNice respect thread, btw.
You should check out the revamped Surfer respect thread I made, there's not a single scan that's cropped(at least none from me) and I've included nearly every Surfer feat worth mentioning in it...http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=459252
Time travel is in the Misc feats section under Time/Space manipulation.
Originally posted by Tyrant
And yet, Surfer evaded him, and knocked him out.The Hulk was like a foot away from Surfer, and if we judge by art, his fist should have went through Surfer.
He has to react as well as think... 😉
In the Morg one, he was far away, using superspeed, punched him using speed, and then rammed his board into his head.
In the Ravenous one, without his board, he hit him from the front, and then hit him from the back... 😖hifty:
How did he get behind him, other than reflexes?Without his board, he dodged everything Lunatic threw at him...
Wonder Man is still fast, I mean, he's reacted to Gladiator's blitzes.
The problem is, you'll never see him leaping around like Spider-Man, because that's not the way he fights.
Combat speed, doesn't necessarily mean Spider-Man/Superman style.When he fought Thor, he was also weakened by the sonic shark, before those comics, so it balances out.
Also, he hammered Thor relentlessly throughout that whole fight.
With the Abom one, he beat on him and Abom couldn't react. Although that could be attributed to fighting skills.
But maybe both of those needed the whole fight to show it?You see, I got rid of almost all my Surfer comics, so I'm forced to use others, of his showings, or the odd one that I put in imageshack before I got rid of them.
Anyway, are you talking about when he blitzed all the ships in Annihilation?
Because if you are, I was trying to keep it to single combat.Not at all, I know.
As I said, it doesn't have to be Superman, or Spider-Man like, to show reflexes, and combat speed.Of course, but still, people like to rag on his combat speed all the time.
And, like you said, you could only think of two, so I decided to put more than that, and just equal to twice as much of the things you said that Supes has probably used T-Vo.Meh, it's just T-Vo in specific, and you happened to bring it up, and at the same time, were questioning his speed.
I fail to see him using it in battle, that much on the boards, and especially against speedy opponents. I also thought it needed time to be used...Not trying to completely rule that out here, but from the looks of your first post, it seems that this is Superman from the H/P saga, which happened many years before he got T-Vo...
I know why you brought it up, it's just that the whole T-Vo/Surfer speed comparison thing.
the sonic shark. 😂
sorry ty, not laughing at you, just at that whole thing. a few things wrong with it -- (1) we have no idea how long the effects of the 'shark' lasted, because there was no definitive point in time where he was shown to regain his 'full power'. so when he fought thor and was amped by loki, he may very well have been AT max power by then. (2) human tech could weaken him?? 😂 he's f'd in this fight then cuz MB would figure out that little weakness in a heartbeat. 😄
and goob -- ss never escaped in the unilord saga without a sh!tload of outside help. and . . . where do you get that he was eternity level? 😕
oh, and:
now, there is one point i will partially concede (and something i think goob was getting at) -- i wasn't looking at h/p when considering how this fight might go. i simply went looking back at feats performed by a motherbox. a motherbox HAS accomplished all the feats i (and others) have said and more. did supes use all these abilities in h/p? no. but like the surfer guys want to say he can use combat-style speed, (allowable by forum rules) so too is it allowable for supes to utilize FULLY the abilities of a motherbox.
🙂
there wasn't TOO much to go on in h/p AND in the forum granting full use of powers is fine. so you agree supes with fully active MB wins 10/10? 👆
as shown in h/p i agree, the battle would be closer, but given the MB's ability to adapt i'd still give supes the edge based just on what we saw.
ps--ty, i was also not referring to the time he speedblitzed in annihilation . . . 😖hifty:
I mean, this says it right here:
Mother Boxes have an affinity for the Source and are believed to draw their power from it. In that sense, they can be seen as a computer that links man to God.
That's an actual D.C bio. I don't understand how anyone can say "It's really not that powerful".
If a normal human has it and knows how to use it, he's pretty much a herald level guy. Give a low, low herald level guy like Superman the thing and he's at least slightly above herald.
p.s I had to take a shot at him since I'm giving him the win. Otherwise, I'd feel dirty.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Av, I shouldn't even have to tell you...
He used capitals. The readability alone is worth it. 🙂
In the real world we have noise pollution. On the net, there should be some kind of equivalent. Especially when someone tends to type long rants.
Don't kill us General Mod! 😮