Who is the most powerful creature in middle earth in the third age?

not yet but that makes quite a bit of sense

hello?

Originally posted by Agent Elrond
It hard to say what's the most powerful creature. Has anybody mentioned Beorn, the skin-changer?

No, I don't think he was mentioned yet 😕
But he would definitely be one of the most powerful non-Maiaric beings, though he has no chance against Wiki.
Àpropos, Wiki, I don't think he can be counted as a really powerful being because all his power depends on the Ring and is based on it, so it's actually Sauron's "extended" power.

Indeed hard to specify one creature because there are so many things of being most powerful... like, most mighty in direct confrontation in a battle (definitely not Bombadil), able to influence other, greatest ruler (definitely more "power"ful than the strongest soldier, power depends on the people "below"😉 and so on.

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We cant eliminate Sauron?!?!
He is still around in the third age-is he not

Originally posted by Sauron
We cant eliminate Sauron?!?!
He is still around in the third age-is he not

I was just thinking creature only in the 3rd Age. Sauron's power is most noted in the 1st and 2nd age. Sauron's power in the 3rd age is limited to the WotR.

Originally posted by Agent Elrond
I was just thinking creature only in the 3rd Age. Sauron's power is most noted in the 1st and 2nd age. Sauron's power in the 3rd age is limited to the WotR.

... but his power is still more than anybody else's 😛 ✅

Sauron was spending time RECUPERATING throughout much of the Third Age furious the second drain on his elemental power is obviously going to last longer than the first (at Numenor) That doesn't mean he is any less!!!

Sorry, I have a bee in my bonnet about getting certain details right! 😮

wow
sombody argues with exa.
theres something you dont see every day

*kicks feet back*
fight fairly 🙂

Well I was agreeing with her 😕

awww
no fun.

will have to find sombody with no sense to argue with exa then 😛

only i am silly enough to do that

and even i wouldnt dare 😛

Originally posted by Exa
... but his power is still more than anybody else's 😛 ✅

He may have had more than anyone else, even more probably than the Istari. But not enough to actually feel confident with his power that he desperately needed his ring in order to win his war against the free peoples of Middle Earth. Power with no strength of will is weak in comparison to those with no power but whose will is greater than his to win the war, which they did against Sauron and his hordes.

Sauron isnt really a creature in the third age, he takes form yes....but we just refer to him as a minky shadow in mirkwood 😛

Unfortunately Sauron has no form as of yet, not physical. So he wasn't as powerful, and even if he had his physical form, he still needed his ring to be powerful or more of it. Without he felt no confidence whatsoever. Combined and united, the free peoples of Middle Earth are the most powerful creatures; for they can be both creative and destructive.

I am a little dainted.....I thought he did actually have form, but not a strong form?

A form but not in the physical sense, hence his inability to interact with the physical world. With the ring, he then would be complete.

Originally posted by hollowknowledge
Unfortunately Sauron has no form as of yet, not physical. So he wasn't as powerful, and even if he had his physical form, he still needed his ring to be powerful or more of it. Without he felt no confidence whatsoever. Combined and united, the free peoples of Middle Earth are the most powerful creatures; for they can be both creative and destructive.

in order to create life something of it has to be destroyed...*philo freak*

the eagles could whoop sauron's ass, Thorondor got a good cheap shot on Morgoth 😉

Originally posted by hollowknowledge
A form but not in the physical sense, hence his inability to interact with the physical world. With the ring, he then would be complete.

erm...uh, sauron does have a physical form in the book, how is he supposed to put on the ring with no form?

chuck the ring into the eye itself you may say? yeah, I would sure like to see an orc climb to the top of barad-dur and throw it in

a quote comes to mind when I browsed through the book to find the quote from the two towers!

"He has only four on the Black Hand, but they are enough', says Gollum in The Two Towers

Discos - 💃 so thou doesnt know more than sir Discos

Originally posted by Discos
erm...uh, sauron does have a physical form in the book, how is he supposed to put on the ring with no form?

chuck the ring into the eye itself you may say? yeah, I would sure like to see an orc climb to the top of barad-dur and throw it in

a quote comes to mind when I browsed through the book to find the quote from the two towers!

"He has only four on the Black Hand, but they are enough', says Gollum in The Two Towers

Discos - 💃 so thou doesnt know more than sir Discos

i don't think he's coming back anytime soon Discos...to reply

until he does, I shall take it he put "that" in his pipe and smoked it