Respect the Silver Surfer!

Originally posted by nij-ayias
[B]FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS, YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN, A VERY LONG REPLY. WILL YOU PLEASE READ MY POST FIRST AND SUMMARIZE YOUR REPLY?

Common sense means nothing against comics portrayal power. Common sense is not canon or genuine.

No high showings of lightspeed volume of attacks and dodging lightspeed attacks at the same time, Silver Surfer is not lightspeed combatant.

Exactly, same with Silver Surfer, it's not fighting but a hit and run or should I say travel speed.

LOL, Marathon runner have reaction speed because they know when to stop without accidentally hitting anywhere.

Probably means nothing but a wild guess, it can't provide any concrete evidence to your opinion.
If a jet fighter pilot could easily blitz a person, name me a world champion boxer that is a former jet fighter pilot. Don't make an excuse about money, a world champion can earn million dollars in 1 year.
At least prove me that a jet fighter pilot can dodge Pacquiao's punch or Mosley's punch or Mayweather's punch. I think you don't know them because you can't comprehend fighting from running.

Show me scans where Silver Surfer unleashed lightspeed of volume attacks and dodged lightspeed volume of attacks at the same time and at single direction.
Show me scans where Silver Surfer traded lightspeed volume of attacks.
We don't need common sense and obvious things without proper showing in comics, what we need is showings or power scaling.

Traveling while doing it is more of a circus act or maneuvering, if you can't properly show the scans what I'm talking before, just accept the fact that Silver Surfer can't do it.
The Surfboard is mentally link to his mind, he controls the board and its speed. What the board do is travel, not fighting.

What the board do is travel, not fighting.

Every movement the Surfboard do is travel. It is also defined that what the Surfboard do is travel, not fighting.

It happened whether you like it or not. You do know that a herald is stronger in outer space. It depends on the situation when the character got beat up. Upset happens in real life too, like Pacquiao-Barrera or Tyson-Douglas. If you don't want it, stop reading the comics.

To make the fight easier, to lessen the violence and to avoid the innocent from getting hurt. The longer the fight goes on, the higher the casualties.

No high showings of lightspeed volume of attacks and dodging lightspeed attacks at the same time, Silver Surfer is not lightspeed combatant but a lightspeed traveler.

You took the travel/fight analogy too far, to make it simple define what is travel, maneuvering and fighting.
Common sense means nothing against comics portrayals/showings. Common sense is not canon or genuine.

That's hit and run, you called that fighting? What kind of fighting is that? Are you trying to say that Mayweather is more of a fighter than Pacquiao? I know you don't know them and I know you're at the right age but your analogy was stuck in fictional worlds, you need to watch UFC, boxing, MMA etc to know what is really fighting.
I'm not downplaying Silver Surfer's travel speed, the problem is for the past ten years in versus forum, you always make Silver Surfer not hittable in any match up or only the lightspeed can hit him etc. To make it short, you're contradicting Marvel Comics' Silver Surfer(hittable) and creating your own version of not hittable Silver Surfer with PIS excuse. In any versus thread there's always no justice when you always defend Superman, Flash and Silver Surfer being not hittable with your PIS excuse which contradicts DC/Marvel portrayal of each respective character.

DC/Marvel version of superheroes = hittable = canon or genuine

Endless Mike's version of superheroes = not hittable with PIS excuse as a backup to make a sure win against his opposition in versus forum = non canon or imagination

FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS, YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN, A VERY LONG REPLY. WILL YOU PLEASE SUMMARIZE YOUR REPLY? [/B]

I usually agree with you about Endless Mike hyping people up to be light speed fighters when they dont have not ONE showing of moving or fighting at light speed and I also agreed with you when you said that space flight dont equal light speed fighting but surfer is a light speed fighter and he has proven this. .

Originally posted by Alucard25
Actually no Surfer has used his board in battle as weapon and shield more than a few times so its not just for travel.

I'm not arguing about the speed of his board.

Show me scans where Silver Surfer unleashed lightspeed of volume attacks and dodged lightspeed volume of attacks at the same time and at single direction.

Silver Surfer can't even throw 20 punches in 1 sec.

Originally posted by darthgoober
"No PIS" is a forum rule not his preference and characters not using their speed in comics is specifically sited as an example of what constitutes PIS. If you have a problem with it then find a site with different rules or try to talk the mods into changing the rules to something closer to your liking and stop spammimg the respect thread.

Endless Mike started this.

I know it's a forum rules but this is between Endless Mike and I, because Endless Mike always doing that PIS in any forum and my point is it's not official compare to DC/Marvel version of Silver Surfer at 100% can be hit. What's the point of making a versus thread if he's untouchable?

It doesn't really help the genuine hittable Character if you make a PIS rule. You're just creating your own version of not hittable Silver Surfer with an excuse.

Originally posted by carver9
I usually agree with you about Endless Mike hyping people up to be light speed fighters when they dont have not ONE showing of moving or fighting at light speed and I also agreed with you when you said that space flight dont equal light speed fighting but surfer is a light speed fighter and he has proven this. .

Hit and Run style is travel maneuvering not fighting.

He has proven nothing about Silver Surfer unleashing lightspeed of volume attacks and dodged lightspeed volume of attacks at the same time and at single direction.

Stop ****ing spamming the respect thread.

You know I'm surprised a moderator never really stepped in on this to ever call judgment on the Silver Surfer speed thing

Does Silver Surfer have incredible speed? YES
Does he have feats to match or even out rank Flash? YES
Does Silver Surfer throw millions of jabs and uppercuts? NO
Does the Silver Surfer run on foot like The Blur or Max Mercury? NO
Is Silver Surfer's power set complicated? YES

The best way I can describe the difference between Flash and Surfer is to call Flash the boxer
He's the guy who will fight hammer out punches like Batman, dance like Ali and amaze people like Captain Kirk in a bar room brawl.

Surfer is more like an armored Knight with a Lance on Horseback, he's not a traditional fighter but he can hit crazy speed and he only needs to strike once to put most enemies down.

Flash is the fighting Captain, the guy who ducks, moves and is all over the bad guys like a rash
Surfer coming from a pacifist planet never learned how to wrestle, duck, kick and uppercut. He was a thinker not a fighter but when he does fight, he fights like a soldier but like a spaceship itself, he fights like the Starship Enterprise at full speed

Silver Surfer alongside his Avengers friends in an Avengers issue is set up by Taskmaster to challenge all these foes. Silver Surfer has to challenge Korvac and stop this life bomb from wiping everyone out. Korvac blasts him, traps him inside a planet - nothing
Surfer like a knight on horseback makes a flying pass at multiple lightspeed, flying at the Life Bomb firing a bolt at it
One more blast should do it
then Surfer U-turns circling around for another shot. Korvac knows he can't out speed him so Korvac appears in front of Surfer and tries to transform him back into plain old Norrin Radd but not before the board sends them both crashing into the Life Bomb and both Korvac and Surfer are killed. Double KO

Other examples would be making a dashing grab at the IG Thanos wore, Thanos dodged it but the crazy thing was Surfer made the grab from a couple of light years away

Silver Surfer has traveled to other planets in a matter of minutes, he can fly this fast without any rifts or wormholes. Just zips off like some kind of Silver Age Superman

Another speed example of speed would be Silver Surfer flying off searching the entire Earth for a hero and coming back before Dr Strange can finish his sentence

Silver Surfer's has speed, he was pacifist but his character has developed over the years, he has become more warrior like when need be and he has learned some fighting tricks. So its not all ziping past someone at light speed and clocking them with a bolt

and there are plenty more examples in this thread such as Silver Surfer's reaction times

Originally posted by darthgoober
You know if you look on the last page of the previous comic it actually looks more like Surfer grabs Nova by the throat then punches him...

...and that would make the speed even more impressive.

Originally posted by kgkg
Saves people real fast before Ego gets to kill them

Originally posted by Naija boy

Surfer actually absorbing bullets

(it should be noted Surfer absorbed those bullets AFTER they were fired)

To avoid spamming the respect thread, if anyone wants to debate this with me, please just send me a PM.

Originally posted by Firestorms
You know I'm surprised a moderator never really stepped in on this to ever call judgment on the Silver Surfer speed thing

Does Silver Surfer have incredible speed? YES
Does he have feats to match or even out rank Flash? YES
Does Silver Surfer throw millions of jabs and uppercuts? NO
Does the Silver Surfer run on foot like The Blur or Max Mercury? NO
Is Silver Surfer's power set complicated? YES

The best way I can describe the difference between Flash and Surfer is to call Flash the boxer
He's the guy who will fight hammer out punches like Batman, dance like Ali and amaze people like Captain Kirk in a bar room brawl.

Surfer is more like an armored Knight with a Lance on Horseback, he's not a traditional fighter but he can hit crazy speed and he only needs to strike once to put most enemies down.

Flash is the fighting Captain, the guy who ducks, moves and is all over the bad guys like a rash
Surfer coming from a pacifist planet never learned how to wrestle, duck, kick and uppercut. He was a thinker not a fighter but when he does fight, he fights like a soldier but like a spaceship itself, he fights like the Starship Enterprise at full speed

Silver Surfer alongside his Avengers friends in an Avengers issue is set up by Taskmaster to challenge all these foes. Silver Surfer has to challenge Korvac and stop this life bomb from wiping everyone out. Korvac blasts him, traps him inside a planet - nothing
Surfer like a knight on horseback makes a flying pass at multiple lightspeed, flying at the Life Bomb firing a bolt at it
One more blast should do it
then Surfer U-turns circling around for another shot. Korvac knows he can't out speed him so Korvac appears in front of Surfer and tries to transform him back into plain old Norrin Radd but not before the board sends them both crashing into the Life Bomb and both Korvac and Surfer are killed. Double KO

I'm not discrediting Surfer's lightspeed, my point is he doesn't know how to fight.

Originally posted by Firestorms
Other examples would be making a dashing grab at the IG Thanos wore, Thanos dodged it but the crazy thing was Surfer made the grab from a couple of light years away

Silver Surfer has traveled to other planets in a matter of minutes, he can fly this fast without any rifts or wormholes. Just zips off like some kind of Silver Age Superman

Another speed example of speed would be Silver Surfer flying off searching the entire Earth for a hero and coming back before Dr Strange can finish his sentence

Thanos didn't dodge it intentionally but accidentally because he was fighting Capt. America at that time.

I know he has that reaction time while traveling but not when fighting.

Originally posted by Firestorms
[B]Silver Surfer's has speed, he was pacifist but his character has developed over the years, he has become more warrior like when need be and he has learned some fighting tricks. So its not all ziping past someone at light speed and clocking them with a bolt

and there are plenty more examples in this thread such as Silver Surfer's reaction times

Silver Surfer doesn't have that reaction time when fighting because he is easy to get hit as always. It's fact that Silver Surfer can be hit.
The only problem here is Endless Mike portrays Silver Surfer speed as not easy to get hit or not hittable.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
To avoid spamming the respect thread, if anyone wants to debate this with me, please just send me a PM.

.........

Endless Mike Theory:

Lightspeed Travel = It doesn't matter whether there's feat or not to back it up, I'll just assume he can do anything at lightspeed

Nij:

You're welcome to your opinions, but the point of respect threads is not to initiate debate about the character. Clarifying scans and feats in the interest of knowledge, sure. But your post seems more appropriate for the vs. forum. Or, alternatively:

Originally posted by Endless Mike
To avoid spamming the respect thread, if anyone wants to debate this with me, please just send me a PM.

Please do that instead. Thank you.

Originally posted by Digi
Nij:

You're welcome to your opinions, but the point of respect threads is not to initiate debate about the character. Clarifying scans and feats in the interest of knowledge, sure. But your post seems more appropriate for the vs. forum. Or, alternatively:

[B][QUOTE=12070831]Originally posted by Endless Mike
[B]I can't wait to throw this in the faces of everyone who says he can't fight FTL

Actually, Endless Mike instigated this with his off topic post.

I'm sure this has been posted before, but just in case - the Surfer manipulating the internal energy within Jack of Hearts with little more than a thought:

Nice scan TheKahn

I wonder with rumors of the Mad Titan returning is Surfer going to actually give him a real fight or is he once again gonna be a punch bag like he was in the past?

It'd be hard to say...I mean if Death does have him return to the living, she can augment him like she did before to any level she wants.

He could very well turn the Surfer to mush if he wanted to. I mean during the whole Hunger thing, Thanos punked out Galactus in his own base, BY HIMSELF!

Originally posted by Safeguard
I mean during the whole Hunger thing, Thanos punked out Galactus in his own base, BY HIMSELF!

You speak of the time where he blast Galactus on his ass, and then, two seconds later he was begging for his life, after Big G gave him the single most humiliating lost of his career?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
You speak of the time where he blast Galactus on his ass, and then, two seconds later he was begging for his life, after Big G gave him the single most humiliating lost of his career?

but that's what the big G does

Still I wouldn't mind seeing the Herlad vs the Titan rematch

It would be a good way to measure what power level both are at today

Originally posted by Firestorms
Nice scan TheKahn

I wonder with rumors of the Mad Titan returning is Surfer going to actually give him a real fight or is he once again gonna be a punch bag like he was in the past?

He is confirmed to be returning I can post the comic if you guys like I don't remember it off my head.

Good speed feat here for Surfer.

A girl with the power to tear apart reality (multiverse) had to wish her powers away so a serious Surfer wouldn't kill her. Also said he'd take down Genis without a thought.

Silver Surfer nearly kills all the avengers with a warning shot including Thor.

Not serious with that are you?

later in the issue he was having a decent fight with just Iron Man to be precise

Didn't they stalemate and knock each other out in that issue?

IIRC Surfer got the edge in the end but Tony put up a good fight