Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlthanos was god. he had his power. no one could stop him. no one did stop him.
NO. You dont' get it. In order to have the POWER of God, One must have ALL three. Or One doesn't have the power of God. period. One must be All powerful, All knowing, and All Authoritive in order to Be God. Thanos was never God.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
which is why he got booted out of heaven...(in the real world of course)...
What real world ? God and Lucifer don't exist. There just myth.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
TOAA is the guy with the pen making the comics, base on the scans, thanos was the TOAA within the comics itself.so comics wise, he is god. the only one above him is the dude who makes up the stores (editors, writers, producers, etc.)
all your evidence are base on what you think and not on facts.
Thanos became Omnipotent. End of Story.
I think everyone is just misunderstanding what nvrbeenwithagirl is saying.
All he's stating is that Thanos didn't couldn't have possessed the full power of the One Above All because well, he's a comic book character. Whereas the One Above All who is the one drawing/creating all of these characters, has the FULL power.
He could have just erased Thanos.
Originally posted by joesdabest1
I think everyone is just misunderstanding what nvrbeenwithagirl is saying.All he's stating is that Thanos didn't couldn't have possessed the full power of the One Above All because well, he's a comic book character. Whereas the One Above All who is the one drawing/creating all of these characters, has the FULL power.
He could have just erased Thanos.
And your misunderstanding everyone else. From cover to cover Thanos was god. Thanos couldn't be erased/defeated by a Comic Cosmic Entity therefore he WAS omnipotent.
Originally posted by Hitman911
And your misunderstanding everyone else. From cover to cover Thanos was god. Thanos couldn't be erased/defeated by a Comic Cosmic Entity therefore he WAS omnipotent.
How could he be God from "cover to cover" if the whole idea for the comic was thought up by/drawn by the real God?
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
What real world ? God and Lucifer don't exist. There just myth.dude, its a religion, not a myth. unless of course your an atheist then yeah, its a myth. but to christains, this is truth (more or less).
Thanos became Omnipotent. End of Story.
i think thats what i said.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos was the Omniverse and everything in it. (Powerwise and Consciously speaking)TOAA/GOD is above the Omniverse (hence above Thanos)
Within the Omniverse ... Thanos was the Almighty as in GOD/TOAA
THOI = TOAA -- imo
Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos was god. he had his power. no one could stop him. no one did stop him.
Thanos wasn't God. Thanos had the raw power of God. He did not become omniscient, heck he didn't even gain knowledge from the artifact, but he did become one with the universe and had, like I said, the raw power of God. Also, in the end, the comic book strongly implies that there was a higher power that manipulated Thanos into fixing the universal flaw (the real God TOAA).
Originally posted by tooa/presence
Thanos wasn't God. Thanos had the raw power of God. He did not become omniscient, heck he didn't even gain knowledge from the artifact, but he did become one with the universe and had, like I said, the raw power of God. Also, in the end, the comic book strongly implies that there was a higher power that manipulated Thanos into fixing the universal flaw (the real God TOAA).
Manipulated with the intelligence of God. He was outsmarted but he would never, could never be out-muscled.
Originally posted by Astner
I tend to disagree, you cannot be supreme and have someone above you.
Thanos was the Supreme Being of the Omniverse in Marvel: the End.
There's Two beings that controls everything that happens in the Comics we read,
he/they appeared in FF#511 as you know,
he/they literally draws the stories that pop up on panel,
in other words, a Comic Book character outside the laws of Comic books, which really traslates to,
the Real World "Artists" and "Writers" depicting the "Almighty" (TOAA/God) as themselves.
But God and his "Collaborator" are STILL Comic Book characters
(and I love they kept it like that)
But although they are Comic Book characters, they can do literally anything.
So if God/TOAA decide to make a story were Thanos has their power, they can do that,
No one including Thanos,
will ever have the True Power of the Artist & Collaborator of FF#511,
because that's impossible.
The Artist & Collaborator of FF#511 literally "DREW" the "End" WITHIN Comics
if we accept FF#511 as fact and canon, and FF#511, IS, Fact and Canon:
(excerpt from the Fantastic Four Ultimate Guide)
"to meet God ...
FF were amazed to find out that he Sketched Out Reality in the same way a Comic-Book Artist"
In the actual FF Bio it certifies there are Two Supreme Beings working together
to create what we read, just like it was depicted on panel in FF#511:
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook)
"The CreatorS allowed it"
.....................................................................................................
So God/TOAA (the Almighty) allowed Thanos to become the Almighty, TOAA, God within the STORY they themselves developed for their amusement apparently, or whatever other reason.
The "Artist" and "Collaborator" of FF#511 (who view Reality from OUTSIDE the Omniverse allowed it, as we all know they changed it back in the end by making Thanos Re-Create everything and obliterate THOTI forever.
.....................................................................................................
For us we're like, "oh my Thanos couldn't have been God,
God is Omniscient and Omnipotent," yada yada yada.
Thanos WAS Omnipotent and Omniscient Within the Omniverse.
Because the "Artist" and "Collaborator" of FF#511
developed and artistically realized that story into Reality,
yep that simple, the "Writer" (TOAA?) thought it up, and "Artist" (GOD) penciled it into existence.
"the Trap was so obvious ... impulse was not part of my structure,
yet still I had followed a course charted by Another's Hand"
the master manipulator had been tricked"
Originally posted by Astner
Jim Starlin lived through Thanos as authors illustrated Jack Kirby through a avatar.
God/TOAA are Comic Book characters,
but yes, they are basically representing the Writers and Artists of any given story.
Originally posted by Astner
THOI = TOAA -- imo
Within the Omniverse .. I agree.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos was the Supreme Being of the Omniverse in Marvel: the End.There's Two beings that controls everything that happens in the Comics we read,
he/they appeared in FF#511 as you know,
he/they literally draws the stories that pop up on panel,in other words, a Comic Book character outside the laws of Comic books, which really traslates to,
the Real World "Artists" and "Writers" depicting the "Almighty" (TOAA/God) as themselves.But God and his "Collaborator" are STILL Comic Book characters
(and I love they kept it like that)But although they are Comic Book characters, they can do literally anything.
So if God/TOAA decide to make a story were Thanos has their power, they can do that,
No one including Thanos,
will ever have the True Power of the Artist & Collaborator of FF#511,
because that's impossible.The Artist & Collaborator of FF#511 literally "DREW" the "End" WITHIN Comics
if we accept FF#511 as fact and canon, and FF#511, IS, Fact and Canon:(excerpt from the Fantastic Four Ultimate Guide)
"to meet God ...
FF were amazed to find out that he Sketched Out Reality in the same way a Comic-Book Artist"In the actual FF Bio it certifies there are Two Supreme Beings working together
to create what we read, just like it was depicted on panel in FF#511:(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook)
"The CreatorS allowed it".....................................................................................................
So God/TOAA (the Almighty) allowed Thanos to become the Almighty, TOAA, God within the STORY they themselves developed for their amusement apparently, or whatever other reason.
The "Artist" and "Collaborator" of FF#511 (who view Reality from OUTSIDE the Omniverse allowed it, as we all know they changed it back in the end by making Thanos Re-Create everything and obliterate THOTI forever.
.....................................................................................................
For us we're like, "oh my Thanos couldn't have been God,
God is Omniscient and Omnipotent," yada yada yada.Thanos WAS Omnipotent and Omniscient Within the Omniverse.
Because the "Artist" and "Collaborator" of FF#511
developed and artistically realized that story into Reality,yep that simple, the "Writer" (TOAA?) thought it up, and "Artist" (GOD) penciled it into existence.
... impulse was not part of my structure,yet still I had followed a course charted by Another's Hand"
the master manipulator had been tricked"
God/TOAA are Comic Book characters,
but yes, they are basically representing the Writers and Artists of any given story.
Within the Omniverse .. I agree. [/B]
And after all of that, THanos still wasn't in control and thus, NOT GOD. At least if he had been in control with no writer using him, and him admitting to being duped, I'd agree that he was in fact god. But per the story, he admits to be tricked by the master manipulator. Thus, Thanos was NEVER God.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos was the Supreme Being of the Omniverse in Marvel: the End.There's Two beings that controls everything that happens in the Comics we read,
he/they appeared in FF#511 as you know,
he/they literally draws the stories that pop up on panel,in other words, a Comic Book character outside the laws of Comic books, which really traslates to,
the Real World "Artists" and "Writers" depicting the "Almighty" (TOAA/God) as themselves.But God and his "Collaborator" are STILL Comic Book characters
(and I love they kept it like that)But although they are Comic Book characters, they can do literally anything.
So if God/TOAA decide to make a story were Thanos has their power, they can do that,
No one including Thanos,
will ever have the True Power of the Artist & Collaborator of FF#511,
because that's impossible.The Artist & Collaborator of FF#511 literally "DREW" the "End" WITHIN Comics
if we accept FF#511 as fact and canon, and FF#511, IS, Fact and Canon:(excerpt from the Fantastic Four Ultimate Guide)
"to meet God ...
FF were amazed to find out that he Sketched Out Reality in the same way a Comic-Book Artist"In the actual FF Bio it certifies there are Two Supreme Beings working together
to create what we read, just like it was depicted on panel in FF#511:(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook)
"The CreatorS allowed it".....................................................................................................
So God/TOAA (the Almighty) allowed Thanos to become the Almighty, TOAA, God within the STORY they themselves developed for their amusement apparently, or whatever other reason.
The "Artist" and "Collaborator" of FF#511 (who view Reality from OUTSIDE the Omniverse allowed it, as we all know they changed it back in the end by making Thanos Re-Create everything and obliterate THOTI forever.
.....................................................................................................
For us we're like, "oh my Thanos couldn't have been God,
God is Omniscient and Omnipotent," yada yada yada.Thanos WAS Omnipotent and Omniscient Within the Omniverse.
Because the "Artist" and "Collaborator" of FF#511
developed and artistically realized that story into Reality,yep that simple, the "Writer" (TOAA?) thought it up, and "Artist" (GOD) penciled it into existence.
... impulse was not part of my structure,yet still I had followed a course charted by Another's Hand"
the master manipulator had been tricked"
God/TOAA are Comic Book characters,
but yes, they are basically representing the Writers and Artists of any given story.
Within the Omniverse .. I agree. [/B]
Neither Jack or Stan was the editor of that issue, allowing the Fantastic Four to return from a 4th wall breakthrough, well, it´s not some great feat actually, there have been many cameo´s in comic, both Jack and Stan have appeared and they don´t really seem omnipotent or omniscient, in any sense.
The FF #511 was to me, from what I´ve heard a tribute to the "King of comics" Jack Kirby, I don´t really see him winning a fight against Galactus--besides on the official Marvel website it´s said that he in that issue was Galactus' counterpart, he was the creator as Galactus was the Destroyer.
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=417
So to me, in that sense, avatar of Jack Kirby = Galactus.
Many in the MU have been called God and such, so that statement really don´t cut it for me, oh well.
"So if God/TOAA decide to make a story were Thanos has their power, they can do that,
No one including Thanos,
will ever have the True Power of the Artist & Collaborator of FF#511,
because that's impossible."
I see where you're coming from. To me this statement sounds similar to my statement that Thanos had the raw power of God, but wasn't God/TOAA since Thanos wasn't the one actually drawing and writing the comic book. Do you get where I'm coming from?
Originally posted by Astner
I fail to see how this merges, it don´t really make much sense.
Tell it to Marvel.
Cause everything I just said, is derived straight from Marvel.
Originally posted by Astner
Neither Jack or Stan was the editor of that issue,
Jack and Stan have absolutely nothing to do with this.
Originally posted by Astner
allowing the Fantastic Four to return from a 4th wall breakthrough, well, it´s not some great feat actually, there have been many cameo´s in comic, both Jack and Stan have appeared and they don´t really seem omnipotent or omniscient, in any sense.
I've never seen Jack in my life in a Marvel Comic.
And when Stan appears in Comics, it's obviously a goof. (non-canon)
I don't buy or pay any mind to any of that "4th wall" stuff, it's inconsequentail.
Originally posted by Astner
The FF #511 was to me, from what I´ve heard a tribute to the "King of comics" Jack Kirby,
If you want it to mean that to you, fine,
but to Marvel, continuity and anyone who follows serious Marvel publications,
that's GOD the Almighty of Marvel in FF#511 and it has NOTHING to do with Kirby ... nothing.
God (the Artist) has a partner he calls his "Collaborator" ... this is also Marvel Canon facts.
Originally posted by Astner
I don´t really see him winning a fight against Galactus--
dontgetit
Galactus, along with the rest of Marvel
only exists because of God and his "Collaborator" in FF#511.
Originally posted by Astner
besides on the official Marvel website it´s said that he in that issue was Galactus' counterpart, he was the creator as Galactus was the Destroyer.
No where in that link does it say anything about anyone being anyone's "counter-part."
That retail "announcement" (NOT even a Bio) just rings a catchy phrase to get sales.
These are Official Bios my friend:
(excerpt from the Fantastic Four Ultimate Guide)
"to meet God ...
FF were amazed to find out that he Sketched Out Reality in the same way a Comic-Book Artist"
In the actual FF Bio it certifies there are Two Supreme Beings working together
to create what we read, just like it was depicted on panel in FF#511:
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook)
"The CreatorS allowed it"
Originally posted by Astner
So to me, in that sense, avatar of Jack Kirby = Galactus.
😆
Stop messing with me T ... you almost had me there.
Originally posted by Astner
Many in the MU have been called God and such,
so that statement really don´t cut it for me, oh well.
FIrst time I ever see a depiction of "Heaven" that leads to a "GOD"
that Marvel BIOS confirmed as being such.
Anyway this is a silly debate to argue, the facts are the facts.
But as you wish. 🙂
