Hell

Originally posted by peejayd
* i tend to believe, mr.urizen, that this is all a big misunderstanding about different interpretations of several religious denominations on earth...

* these examples:
1) They don't obey you
2) They don't beleive everything you say
3) They are Gay
4) They hit another kid
5) They cursed at you...whatever the case..... are NOT reasons enough for any person to be casted to hell...

* these examples you believe to be somewhat grave enough, are not Biblically sound... God will NOT send anyone just because of these shallow examples, my friend...

* hell is for the evil... and people who repent and ask for God's forgiveness will attain forgiveness... God will NOT send good people to hell, that's for sure... 😉

As much as I prefer your intepretation (which is pretty much the same interpretation that Feceman gave), it is not the popular one.

Unfortunately, the majority of Christians on these forums, as well as in Politics, will strongly disagree with your claim.

So even though I like your intepretation better, how can I know for sure who is right and who is wrong? Christian debators are all saying different things.

JIA, Sonnet, Marcello, JM, and a bunch of other idiots are the people I refer to when I say thier intepretations of the Bible differ greatly from your own !

Originally posted by LFBC_Gir
Wow... that's a bold statement, but perhaps maybe God sent Jesus... for a sacrfice... to pay for your disobedience. Hell is not something God's love conjured up, however it was because God is Just, he laid down the law... and sometimes there's punishment... surely you can't deny that, we're surrounded by laws with punishment. This is not a new concept, it was at the time obviously. If you stay in the right "Following in faith after Jesus and confessing your sins" than you will avoid the punishment (jail for time on earth, or hell for eternity.

Hell was created because there was a demand for it. God created it only after Satan said "I pretty much don't want to follow God anymore, I'd rather be God" he asked for punishment because he disobeyed God. I'm pretty sure Satan knew there would be a punishment brought out if he didn't defeat God.

God did not create Hell because "He's a loving father, and he wants to discipline His children" NO!!! Discipline happens on earth, it is why people who are drunk get hangoves, it is why people who sleep around get STDs. WAKE UP to the world around you!!! There is war, there is famine, there is hatred because of sin and the desire to do wrong!!! We created a Hell on earth! WE'VE DEMANDED HELL!!! Can you not see this?

The actual idea of hell is funny due to the very nature of God as described by man.

Angry, controlling, money hungry men!

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
As much as I prefer your intepretation (which is pretty much the same interpretation that Feceman gave), it is not the popular one.

Unfortunately, the majority of Christians on these forums, as well as in Politics, will strongly disagree with your claim.

So even though I like your intepretation better, how can I know for sure who is right and who is wrong? Christian debators are all saying different things.

JIA, Sonnet, Marcello, JM, and a bunch of other idiots are the people I refer to when I say thier intepretations of the Bible differ greatly from your own !

* good... we have arrived to a unison... and i am proud to say that the God i serve is good (Psalms 100:5)... being that, it would be unfit to give God something that He really is not...

* here, let me expound on a more specific point... some religious denominations preach that gays and lesbians are going straight to hell... that is stupid... the next reply would be: how can a good, loving God do that? heck, because God won't do that... what was wrong was the interpretations of these so-called "christians"... let us read from the Bible itself from where they claim they got that stupid idea...

"Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
I Corinthians 6:9-10

* if we will really read between the lines, the person itself here is NOT the issue... but the ACT... being a homosexual (whether be it gay or lesbian) is not a sin nor is a one-way ticket to hell...

* you see, the homosexual is very broad... there are cross-dressers/transvestites, there are closet-queens, there are screaming faggots... let us face the fact and be open-minded... how sure are we that all these homosexuals are committing sins against the Bible? we are NOT to judge people and we don't have any authority to do so whatsoever, most especially to say and condemn these people to hell? that's preposterous...

* now, let us continue reading what Saint Paul said about those homosexuals...

"And such were some of you: but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God."
I Corinthians 6:11

* they were washed, sanctified and justified by God... wow, just look at that... they are NOT going to hell like most of them says...

* another point i'd like to make is about how good people are going to hell? that idea is very idiotic... i've debated this topic once with mr.jesusisalive but he can never show anything something like that in the Bible... really, these people give God, Christ, Bible (and all things in connection) a very bad name...

"For God is not so unjust as to overlook your work and the love which you showed for his sake in serving the saints, as you still do."
Hebrews 6:10

* a single verse that destroys their silly idea... God is NOT unjust to overlook every person's goodness... but i have more up my sleeve... such as this:

"This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
Who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."
I Timothy 2:3-4

* God desires all men to be saved...

"For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe."
I Timothy 4:10

* God is the Savior of all men, believers or non-believers...

* so basically, that was my point and i hope we will also agree that the God in the Bible is good and He will not do evil things like what those so-called "christians" are spewing... 😉

lord Urizen you've made up your mind, and as we can see I can't change your mind, and that was never my intention.

I'm founded in God and I will not be shaken. I do this because God loves you, believe it or not, you are seeking for something more in life. You had it once, made you'll have to go through "hell" on earth before you run back to His open arms but there's ayearning within you that seeks fulfillment and you will never fill it. Sure deny what I'm saying through a post to boost yourself up and not appear weak. I really don't care. All I care is that you would find God's open arms of grace. You know you've sinned, your conscience is a reminder of it. But I cannot change your mind, only you can.

Originally posted by peejayd
* good... we have arrived to a unison... and i am proud to say that the God i serve is good (Psalms 100:5)... being that, it would be unfit to give God something that He really is not...

* here, let me expound on a more specific point... some religious denominations preach that gays and lesbians are going straight to hell... that is stupid... the next reply would be: how can a good, loving God do that? heck, because God won't do that... what was wrong was the interpretations of these so-called "christians"... let us read from the Bible itself from where they claim they got that stupid idea...

"Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
I Corinthians 6:9-10

* if we will really read between the lines, the person itself here is NOT the issue... but the ACT... being a homosexual (whether be it gay or lesbian) is not a sin nor is a one-way ticket to hell...

* you see, the homosexual is very broad... there are cross-dressers/transvestites, there are closet-queens, there are screaming faggots... let us face the fact and be open-minded... how sure are we that all these homosexuals are committing sins against the Bible? we are NOT to judge people and we don't have any authority to do so whatsoever, most especially to say and condemn these people to hell? that's preposterous...

* now, let us continue reading what Saint Paul said about those homosexuals...

"And such were some of you: but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God."
I Corinthians 6:11

* they were washed, sanctified and justified by God... wow, just look at that... they are NOT going to hell like most of them says...

* another point i'd like to make is about how good people are going to hell? that idea is very idiotic... i've debated this topic once with mr.jesusisalive but he can never show anything something like that in the Bible... really, these people give God, Christ, Bible (and all things in connection) a very bad name...

"For God is not so unjust as to overlook your work and the love which you showed for his sake in serving the saints, as you still do."
Hebrews 6:10

* a single verse that destroys their silly idea... God is NOT unjust to overlook every person's goodness... but i have more up my sleeve... such as this:

"This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
Who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."
I Timothy 2:3-4

* God desires all men to be saved...

"For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe."
I Timothy 4:10

* God is the Savior of all men, believers or non-believers...

* so basically, that was my point and i hope we will also agree that the God in the Bible is good and He will not do evil things like what those so-called "christians" are spewing... 😉

You hit the nail on the head 👆.

😆

Originally posted by LFBC_Gir
lord Urizen you've made up your mind, and as we can see I can't change your mind, and that was never my intention.

I'm founded in God and I will not be shaken. I do this because God loves you, believe it or not, you are seeking for something more in life. You had it once, made you'll have to go through "hell" on earth before you run back to His open arms but there's ayearning within you that seeks fulfillment and you will never fill it. Sure deny what I'm saying through a post to boost yourself up and not appear weak. I really don't care. All I care is that you would find God's open arms of grace. You know you've sinned, your conscience is a reminder of it. But I cannot change your mind, only you can.

Originally posted by LFBC_Gir
lord Urizen you've made up your mind, and as we can see I can't change your mind, and that was never my intention.

I'm founded in God and I will not be shaken. I do this because God loves you, believe it or not, you are seeking for something more in life. You had it once, made you'll have to go through "hell" on earth before you run back to His open arms but there's ayearning within you that seeks fulfillment and you will never fill it. Sure deny what I'm saying through a post to boost yourself up and not appear weak. I really don't care. All I care is that you would find God's open arms of grace. You know you've sinned, your conscience is a reminder of it. But I cannot change your mind, only you can.

Originally posted by peejayd
* good... we have arrived to a unison... and i am proud to say that the God i serve is good (Psalms 100:5)... being that, it would be unfit to give God something that He really is not...

* here, let me expound on a more specific point... some religious denominations preach that gays and lesbians are going straight to hell... that is stupid... the next reply would be: how can a good, loving God do that? heck, because God won't do that... what was wrong was the interpretations of these so-called "christians"... let us read from the Bible itself from where they claim they got that stupid idea...

"Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
I Corinthians 6:9-10

* if we will really read between the lines, the person itself here is NOT the issue... but the ACT... being a homosexual (whether be it gay or lesbian) is not a sin nor is a one-way ticket to hell...

* you see, the homosexual is very broad... there are cross-dressers/transvestites, there are closet-queens, there are screaming faggots... let us face the fact and be open-minded... how sure are we that all these homosexuals are committing sins against the Bible? we are NOT to judge people and we don't have any authority to do so whatsoever, most especially to say and condemn these people to hell? that's preposterous...

* now, let us continue reading what Saint Paul said about those homosexuals...

"And such were some of you: but ye were washed, but ye were sanctified, but ye were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God."
I Corinthians 6:11

* they were washed, sanctified and justified by God... wow, just look at that... they are NOT going to hell like most of them says...

* another point i'd like to make is about how good people are going to hell? that idea is very idiotic... i've debated this topic once with mr.jesusisalive but he can never show anything something like that in the Bible... really, these people give God, Christ, Bible (and all things in connection) a very bad name...

"For God is not so unjust as to overlook your work and the love which you showed for his sake in serving the saints, as you still do."
Hebrews 6:10

* a single verse that destroys their silly idea... God is NOT unjust to overlook every person's goodness... but i have more up my sleeve... such as this:

"This is good, and it is acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
Who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."
I Timothy 2:3-4

* God desires all men to be saved...

"For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe."
I Timothy 4:10

* God is the Savior of all men, believers or non-believers...

* so basically, that was my point and i hope we will also agree that the God in the Bible is good and He will not do evil things like what those so-called "christians" are spewing... 😉

Wow....that is all I can say. This really opened my mind. I guess I should make an effort not to clump Christian Faith as this one uniform totalitarian beleif, but rather recognize the diversity that exists among the seeming conformism that Christianity contains.

Originally posted by LFBC_GIR
lord Urizen you've made up your mind, and as we can see I can't change your mind, and that was never my intention.

I do not accept the idea of Hell....not in the sense of it being eternal torment in the name of Love.

I can accept Hell as a realm of torment that was NOT created by God, or allowed by God, but exists beyond his ability to control- that, however, would suggest God is limitted.

I could also accept Hell as a realm of punishment by an immature and bigot God, but that would suggest that God is NOT all loving.

But for an All-Loving God to create a place of eternal torment for ANYONE, doesn't make any reasonable sense to me.

Unless Hell was like a temporary prison, or FILTER where one's personal evil is expired little by little, while whatever good is left in them goes to Heaven. Or even if our "good sides" go to Heaven, and the "evil" within us is banished to Hell...something like that would make more sense than your black and white version of damnation.

Originally posted by LFBC_GIR
I'm founded in God and I will not be shaken. I do this because God loves you, believe it or not, you are seeking for something more in life. You had it once, made you'll have to go through "hell" on earth before you run back to His open arms but there's ayearning within you that seeks fulfillment and you will never fill it. Sure deny what I'm saying through a post to boost yourself up and not appear weak. I really don't care. All I care is that you would find God's open arms of grace. You know you've sinned, your conscience is a reminder of it. But I cannot change your mind, only you can.

What exactly is your point ? I never said I was fulfilled....I said that after 18 years of beleiving in your God, I do not feel any stronger with that. I feel stronger now, just through self satisfaction.

I am not yearning for anything unattainable. I think I've become more realistic over time, and not so philosophically romantic about life.

I have to admit....the passions I once had when I was younger did die out little by little. I used to beleive and hope for so much, but those dreams were not realized. I only had struggles and lessons to learn.

I had to find myself, and I can honestly say I am more in touch with who I am now, then I ever was my entire life.

I also have a greater respect for life, and higher consideration for people today, then I did when I was "Christian"

Maybe I was "Christian" at the wrong time....maybe I was too immature and relied too much on Blind Faith to truly experience the magic of your God....but whatever the case, today I am not convinced as to the validity of Christianity or any monothestic machismo religion for that matter.

I do beleive that wondorful things can come out of Christianity, and that beautiful people can also come out of it. Don't get me wrong, but the SAME wondors and beauty comes out of Buddhists even more frequently, the SAME beauty and wondors come out of Athiests, Agnostics, Muslims, Homosexuals, etc.

We are ALL equally capable of being Great, or being horrible. Being a Christian does NOT put you on superior footing by ANY MEANS. So I feel NO MOTIVE to be Christian again. I only feel motive to be a good person. That is all I need, that is all I care to be.

God Gets a boner and an Orgasm When He Sends people to hell. The judgement day/hellfire/Sending people to hell is the end of Universe, or should I say the climax of reality.

Teehee Climax.

Originally posted by Smiter
God Gets a boner and an Orgasm When He Sends people to hell. The judgement day/hellfire/Sending people to hell is the end of Universe, or should I say the climax of reality.

Teehee Climax.

Originally posted by Smiter
God Gets a boner and an Orgasm When He Sends people to hell. The judgement day/hellfire/Sending people to hell is the end of Universe, or should I say the climax of reality.

Teehee Climax.

ALL PRAISE ORGASM !

Originally posted by Smiter
well, IF there is a heaven or hell, you just earned a one way ticket to satans penthouse.....enjoy being raped by demons.

1) Not True, just a myth. If God will send you to Eternal Torment over a silly comment, that God is a fkn loser who needs to grow up.

2) I'd rather have Sex in Hell then be Celibate in Heaven ✅

well, i'll pm you as you roast for all of eternity, k?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
well, i'll pm you as you roast for all of eternity, k?

If by roast you mean lay in eternal orgasmic bliss, than yeah, I can't wait.

If by roast you mean "burn in Hell", all I will say is that you need to learn more. Hell is illogical and most likely non-existant. No loving God would create a place of eternal torment for his own children, no matter how disobedient they are.

Your personal intepretations are only based on your own biases, and have no factual OR theological basis to them. Peejayd, another Christian, ALREADY proved why you are wrong, and you still insist on promoting your dumb little theory.

It means nothing to me. Get over it.

God can forgive me from that comment. But God might reward me with hot female demons with tight pussy in hell.

Im wondering If the priest who were celibate on earth get a reward of everlasting sex with female angels(if the priest is straight) or gay angels (if the priest touched a little boy but forgiven)

Originally posted by Smiter
God can forgive me from that comment. But God might reward me with hot female demons with tight pussy in hell.

Im wondering If the priest who were celibate on earth get a reward of everlasting sex with female angels(if the priest is straight) or gay angels (if the priest touched a little boy but forgiven)

For God is Orgasm...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
If by roast you mean lay in eternal orgasmic bliss, than yeah, I can't wait.

If by roast you mean "burn in Hell", all I will say is that you need to learn more. Hell is illogical and most likely non-existant. No loving God would create a place of eternal torment for his own children, no matter how disobedient they are.

Your personal intepretations are only based on your own biases, and have no factual OR theological basis to them. Peejayd, another Christian, ALREADY proved why you are wrong, and you still insist on promoting your dumb little theory.

It means nothing to me. Get over it.