Query: Why are animals regarded more highly in some respects than humans?

Started by Yo Mom loves it12 pages
Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Only because the use of tools, without them we are very low on the food chain.

The ability to work together and make tools, plans etc. is more the point. It is the diversity and ability of mans achievements that sets him and his predecessors above the animal. Speech, Poetry, Art etc.... The ability for self sacrifice and to believe in things bigger than himself. Tell the War heroes who gave their live for you they are animals.

I disagree, we're all as evolved as each other.

Originally posted by Yo Mom loves it
The ability to work together and make tools, plans etc. is more the point. It is the diversity and ability of mans achievements that sets him and his predecessors above the animal. Speech, Poetry, Art etc.... The ability for self sacrifice and to believe in things bigger than himself. Tell the War heroes who gave their live for you they are animals.
Originally posted by The Grey Fox
I disagree, we're all as evolved as each other.

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Originally posted by Yo Mom loves it
The ability to work together and make tools, plans etc. is more the point. It is the diversity and ability of mans achievements that sets him and his predecessors above the animal. Speech, Poetry, Art etc.... The ability for self sacrifice and to believe in things bigger than himself. Tell the War heroes who gave their live for you they are animals.
It is only the use of tools that makes use at the top of the food chain, most animals work better to hunt such as wolves and cats just to name a few. They communicate better for hunting, just because we can add 1 + 1 doesn’t mean anything when you need to hunt for food. Me being able to draw food doesn’t mean that I can eat it, without the use of tools humans are far lower on the food chain.

Edit: For you last add-on to your post.

Now you are trying to change the subject of what you posted. Animals have been shown to sacrifice themselves for others in their pack or even for their human masters.

Originally posted by Yo Mom loves it
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How about you respond instead of just avoiding my points?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
It is only the use of tools that makes use at the top of the food chain, most animals work better to hunt such as wolves and cats just to name a few. They communicate better for hunting, just because we can add 1 + 1 doesn’t mean anything when you need to hunt for food. Me being able to draw food doesn’t mean that I can eat it, without the use of tools humans are far lower on the food chain.

Edit: For you last add-on to your post.

Now you are trying to change the subject of what you posted. Animals have been shown to sacrifice themselves for others in their pack or even for their human masters.

We were smart enough to not need to hunt. When I see cats training there prey to fatten themselves up to feed millions............

Arithmetic is always a help in hunting, it lets you know how much ammo you have.

Originally posted by The Grey Fox
I disagree, we're all as evolved as each other.

O.K. let me get this straight, you roll around in your faeces? Hump peoples legs. Sniff peoples butts when you first meet them?

Good for you.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Exposition: It seems that any thread that has a news article about animal abuse is immediately filled with posts about the various tortures that ought to be inflicted upon the perpetrator of the animal abuse. Even the posts that are not advocating heinous vengeance are emotionally charged. However, it seems that any thread involving crimes of humans against fellow humans is met with less outrage.

Statement: The observation of the disparity between animal abuse threads and human abuse threads may be mistaken.

Reiteration: Why are animals regarded more highly in some respects than humans?

(Clarification: The abuse of animals by humans provokes more outrage than the abuse of humans by humans and thus seems that people hold the animals in higher regard than humans.)

I believe that some people do regard animals higher than humans. Though logically speaking there is not much difference between us and them, either way (regarding Humans or Animals higher) is basically just a specicist few on par with racism or xenophobia.

I can admit though that I am specicist, and though future generations may condemn me...**** them...animals are my slaves.

Originally posted by Yo Mom loves it
We were smart enough to not need to hunt. When I see cats training there prey to fatten themselves up to feed millions............

Arithmetic is always a help in hunting, it lets you know how much ammo you have.

Again, all of this required tools to do; we would have never been able to domestic animals for consumption without the use of tools. We couldn’t keep them corralled without the use of tools and we would have to follow the heard to get our food. Face it without tools we don’t stand a chance in the food chain; we had to use tools to protect ourselves from the elements and other predators because we do not have the natural defenses to overcome their physical advantages.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I believe that some people do regard animals higher than humans. Though logically speaking there is not much difference between us and them, either way (regarding Humans or Animals higher) is basically just a specicist few on par with racism or xenophobia.

I can admit though that I am specicist, and though future generations may condemn me...**** them...animals are my slaves.

Shut up, Bardock. 😠

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Hope all is well. 🙂

Heh, people who say that animals are equal to us fail.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Heh, people who say that animals are equal to us fail.

Please define equal. Do you mean stronger? Do you mean more disease resistant? Do you mean can live in more extreme environments? Or do you mean has the biggest ego?

no animal can be more or less evolved than another

there are instances where you can compare change in genetics from a common ancestor of two species to know which has undergone more evolutionary changes, and in the case of chimps and humans, we have had less changes than them. Calling them more evolved is rather meaningless though.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Please define equal. Do you mean stronger? Do you mean more disease resistant? Do you mean can live in more extreme environments? Or do you mean has the biggest ego?
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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Or do you mean has the biggest ego?

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Please define equal. Do you mean stronger? Do you mean more disease resistant? Do you mean can live in more extreme environments? Or do you mean has the biggest ego?

How about sentient?

Originally posted by FeceMan
How about sentient?

I understand what you are saying, but I think you might be looking for language or abstract symbolic representation rather than sentience.

Originally posted by FeceMan
How about sentient?

Prove to me that other animals, other then the human animal, is not sentient. My cat has a sense of self. Chimpanzees know that the image in a mirror is not another chimp, but themselves.

Originally posted by BobbyD
You bore me.

You're the kind of guy who is looking for a fight that I bump into at a bar......

and when I ask you to show me the way to the parking lot, the next thing you're doing is buying me a beer.

Loser.

*yawn*

Come back when your insults are above 4th grade level.

Statement: In order to prove that other animals are sentient, Shakyamunison must provide the proof that they are sentient--it is impossible for FeceMan to prove that they lack sentience.

Addendum: However, as animals lack the raw mental capacity of humans, they are lessers.

Anticipated Query: "Why does intellect equal superiority?"

Pre-emptive Reply: Intellect equals superiority because humans have the ability to do things that animals cannot. Humans can create art and philosophy; humans have a conscience and the ability to know right from wrong; humans are entirely separate from animals in this regard.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Statement: In order to prove that other animals are sentient, Shakyamunison must provide the proof that they are sentient--it is impossible for FeceMan to prove that they lack sentience.

Addendum: However, as animals lack the raw mental capacity of humans, they are lessers.

Anticipated Query: "Why does intellect equal superiority?"

Pre-emptive Reply: Intellect equals superiority because humans have the ability to do things that animals cannot. Humans can create art and philosophy; humans have a conscience and the ability to know right from wrong; humans are entirely separate from animals in this regard.

Therefore a mentally retarded person is an animal and has no rights. If intellect is your only measure of superiority, then you will fall very short because there are a lot of stupid humans walking around on this Earth.