Originally posted by FeceMan
Statement: FeceMan was unaware that "art" consisted of a single medium.Quotation: "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
I see the problem: you believe the bible. The bible is wrong.
Statement: The problem is made visible to FeceMan.
Assertation: Shakyamunison is a believer in a false god and has exchanged the truth for a lie.
Declaration: Shakyamunison will be able to make statements such as those found in the quoted material with impunity, but members of KMC will leap upon FeceMan's assertation like wolves on a wounded moose.
Originally posted by FeceManI like moose, I will defend thee pitt_guns
Statement: The problem is made visible to FeceMan.Assertation: Shakyamunison is a believer in a false god and has exchanged the truth for a lie.
Declaration: Shakyamunison will be able to make statements such as those found in the quoted material with impunity, but members of KMC will leap upon FeceMan's assertation like wolves on a wounded moose.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Statement: The problem is made visible to FeceMan.Assertation: Shakyamunison is a believer in a false god and has exchanged the truth for a lie.
Declaration: Shakyamunison will be able to make statements such as those found in the quoted material with impunity, but members of KMC will leap upon FeceMan's assertation like wolves on a wounded moose.
Lets see... you believe that a book is the word of god, is that correct? I referee to God as a short cut for the mythic law. To say I believe in a false god would mean I believe in a god in the first place. I am sorry if my attempts to communicate with you has lead you to an incorrect conclusion.
So, the only reason you believe that humans are not animals and therefore above other animals is because some goat herders 3000 years ago said so.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Lets see... you believe that a book is the word of god, is that correct? I referee to God as a short cut for the mythic law. To say I believe in a false god would mean I believe in a god in the first place. I am sorry if my attempts to communicate with you has lead you to an incorrect conclusion.So, the only reason you believe that humans are not animals and therefore above other animals is because some goat herders 3000 years ago said so.
Evidence: Shakyamunison does not believe in the God, YHVH.
Conclusion: Shakyamunison believes in a false god.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Statement: Physical power is merely physical power. It can be used in one way. Human intelligence, on the other hand, can be used in a variety of ways, as FeceMan has already demonstrated.
You beleive that animals were meant to serve us, if that is so, then why do the majority of animals not serve us at all?
Why is it that thousands of species of animals live thier own lives, independent from and of human beings, if they were created to serve us ?
Originally posted by FeceMan
Declaration: Humans are superior because of their mental capacity. No other species has a conscience, the ability to produce and ejoy art, the ability to invent and produce. No other animal can communicate as humans communicate.
1) Mental Capacity...I certainly hope you are not speaking on behalf of ALL humans....we have done such great damage to this world, and to eachother. How is higher mental capacity an automatic advantage, when it has also lead to incredible pain ?
2) How do you know we are the only species with a concious ? I suggest you read up on the psychology of dogs, horses, dolphins, and other mammals.
3) The ability to produce and enjoy art serves nature in no way, and therefore cannot be used as an example as to how we are superior.
4) We cannot communicate the way Dolphins communicate.
We cannot communicate the way bats can.
We cannot survive underwater the way whales and many fish can.
We cannot fly on our own.
We cannot naturally detect cancer cells in our body the way a dog can.
We cannot see more than a few hundred colors the way certain insects can.
We do not have anywhere the amount of disclipine an army ant has.
We cannot survive certain weather conditions the way polar bears or penguins can.
WE cannot survive extreme temperatures the way certain insects can either.
There are so many things that animals can do, that we cannot. There are so many things animals survive and endure that we could never overcome.
You clearly know very little of the animal kingdom, and it is scientific fact that human beings are animals.
Did you know that there were other species of human that existed before homo sapien ?
We are animals. Get over it.
I am for animal rights, they are alive too and can feel pain as much as humans. God made them for a purpose just like he made everything for a purpose. To kill anything is wrong. I don't believe we should eat animals either, Christ was a vegetarian. Eating a lobster is just like eating a cockroach or any other kinda bug. I also don't understand how some think creation appeared out of no where. Go outside and gaze at the stars if you believe that and then tell yourself there is no God and I think you might finally get it.
Originally posted by kevdude
I am for animal rights, they are alive too and can feel pain as much as humans. God made them for a purpose just like he made everything for a purpose. To kill anything is wrong. I don't believe we should eat animals either, Christ was a vegetarian. Eating a lobster is just like eating a cockroach or any other kinda bug. I also don't understand how some think creation appeared out of no where. Go outside and gaze at the stars if you believe that and then tell yourself there is no God and I think you might finally get it.
The Bible says that the animals were meant to be reigned by man. Therefore, according to your religion, they were meant to serve us.
Jesus ate fish...so did his apostles....nice try 👇
The Universe has always existed, and no imaginary being created it. It simply changes form. First Law of Physics will tell you that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, it always changes states.
That means, all material and energy is eternal, no beginning no end, it only changes form. The Universe, and all its stars and planets, are born, die, and are reborn in different forms.
Science demands we study our universe. So instead of staring at our universe and concluding that there is a god, why not study it, and see whats really there ?