H/P Doomsday vs. Superboy Prime

Originally posted by Galan007
DS just said their "power", [he didn't specify a certain type of power], was equal...

You can't dispute that..... It's written on the panel. 😬

Now if they were truly equal, Darky would have been able to pwn DD with 4 shots as well... But do you honestly see that happening?

Hell no!

You think I'd fall for that weak reasoning. DS put DD down in one or Two shots. DD has an adaptive power that allows him to get stronger and over come injuries and even death. DS does not. So I do dispute that when DS put DD down with One or Two shots. Now dispute that it took for shots of the OE to immobilize DD. It didn't. Took One maybe two depending on how you look at the panel. Or do you think DD is really as powerful as A guardian's entire life force energy? It's the adaptive power that allows him the power up and the ability to overcome. EVEN SAID SO by Dan jurgens.

Originally posted by Galan007
It hasn't been proven, so I won't presume anything.

Sure it hasn't but if he stores energy shouldn't it be able to be drained? Sure he can adapt so it won't happen again but it's very plausible situation. Along with Kryptonite seeing as how he is Kryptonian wasn't he? Or did they use another races child but just used Krypton for the experiment? And how long was he buried away from Solar Energy if he can store it for a millenium? Also that may be why Superman was able to keep up with him when he could kill a Guardian since he would probably have been depowered from no solar energy. Which also may be why he was so much stronger the second fight not just the adapting ability. He was in space able to absorb Solar energy getting more powerful along with adapting to be unable to die by physical force.

Course that's just all theory and I have really nothing to back it up except the what the scientist said..He could have evolved past all that by now also as long as it's been since he was created.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Doomsday is not kryptonian. The experiments were simply done in ancient krypton.

See I just thought Doomsday was a Kryptonian baby that was experimented on.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Kryptonite would have been the first thing DD evolved past. He did seem to need sunlight at first. As he was buried by the Radiant's people. But it's odd, cuz the first thing we see, is him digging his way out of the ground. So where did this power or life come from?

Well unless he wasn't Kryptonian this could be true but how would he evolve beyond it without being around any that would kill him? Also it was said he can store energy if needed thats why I was wondering how long was he without sun and did he adapt to not needing it if it was longer than a millenium or what?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You think I'd fall for that weak reasoning. DS put DD down in one or Two shots. DD has an adaptive power that allows him to get stronger and over come injuries and even death. DS does not. So I do dispute that when DS put DD down with One or Two shots. Now dispute that it took for shots of the OE to immobilize DD. It didn't. Took One maybe two depending on how you look at the panel.

But what did it do long-term? Nothing, [as DD almost instantly busted out from under the rubble and beat DS's arse].

And remember, 4 shots from DD injured DS so badly that he couldn't even stand up under his own power..... He was almost dead, [even Superman commented on this fact].

Equals?

Only to a DS fanboy. 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
EVEN SAID SO by Dan jurgens.

That "interview" you posted also has Dan saying Superman is a million times > then Thor...

So do you think I care too much about the "facts" from that "interview"? ❌

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You think I'd fall for that weak reasoning. DS put DD down in one or Two shots. DD has an adaptive power that allows him to get stronger and over come injuries and even death. DS does not. So I do dispute that when DS put DD down with One or Two shots. Now dispute that it took for shots of the OE to immobilize DD. It didn't. Took One maybe two depending on how you look at the panel. Or do you think DD is really as powerful as A guardian's entire life force energy? It's the adaptive power that allows him the power up and the ability to overcome. EVEN SAID SO by Dan jurgens.

Originally posted by Galan007
Two shots of the OE, knocked DD into a building, under some rubble, then slagged that rubble on top of DD...

But what did it do long-term? Nothing, [as DD almost instantly busted out from under the rubble and beat DS's arse].

And remember, 4 shots from DD injured DS so badly that he couldn't even stand up under his own power..... He was almost dead, [even Superman commented on this fact].

Equals?

Only to a DS fanboy. 🙂

😂

That "interview" you posted also has Dan saying Superman is a million times > then Thor...

So do you think I care too much about the "facts" from that "interview"? ❌

Originally posted by Galan007
Two shots of the OE, knocked DD into a building, under some rubble, then slagged that rubble on top of DD...

But what did it do long-term? Nothing, [as DD almost instantly busted out from under the rubble and beat DS's arse].

And remember, 4 shots from DD injured DS so badly that he couldn't even stand up under his own power..... He was almost dead, [even Superman commented on this fact].

Equals?

Only to a DS fanboy. 🙂

😂

That "interview" you posted also has Dan saying Superman is a million times > then Thor...

So do you think I care too much about the "facts" from that "interview"? ❌

Well since you dont' care about the facts from the interview or the frame of mind of the writer, then I think DC didn't care too much either. hence why Ds defeats were retconned. And DD has an ADAPTIVE power that allows him to adapt on the fly and get a power up. Hence they may have been equals when DS fired the shot, DD adapts instantly, hence he powers up effectively becuz of the Omega Beams. Also be aware that DS did NOT use the Omega effect in any way. As the panel clearly says Omega Beams. The Omega Effect is DS totality of power. So please show me where DS is weaker when He didnt' even use his trump power?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well since you dont' care about the facts from the interview or the frame of mind of the writer, then I think DC didn't care too much either. hence why Ds defeats were retconned. And DD has an ADAPTIVE power that allows him to adapt on the fly and get a power up. Hence they may have been equals when DS fired the shot, DD adapts instantly, hence he powers up effectively becuz of the Omega Beams. Also be aware that DS did NOT use the Omega effect in any way. As the panel clearly says Omega Beams. The Omega Effect is DS totality of power. So please show me where DS is weaker when He didnt' even use his trump power?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well since you dont' care about the facts from the interview or the frame of mind of the writer, then I think DC didn't care too much either. hence why Ds defeats were retconned. And DD has an ADAPTIVE power that allows him to adapt on the fly and get a power up. Hence they may have been equals when DS fired the shot, DD adapts instantly, hence he powers up effectively becuz of the Omega Beams. Also be aware that DS did NOT use the Omega effect in any way. As the panel clearly says Omega Beams. The Omega Effect is DS totality of power. So please show me where DS is weaker when He didnt' even use his trump power?

DD was not killed by DS...

And DD beat DS senseless, with little effort.

Everyone agrees with this except you...

FYI,

Your constant digging/making excuses for DS, is getting a tad on the pathetic side. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Don't try to change what we saw on panel, with your own opinion... 🙂

DD was not killed by DS...

And DD beat DS senseless, with little effort.

Everyone agrees with this except you...

FYI,

Your constant digging/making excuses for DS, is getting a tad on the pathetic side. 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well since you dont' care about the facts from the interview or the frame of mind of the writer, then I think DC didn't care too much either. hence why Ds defeats were retconned. And DD has an ADAPTIVE power that allows him to adapt on the fly and get a power up. Hence they may have been equals when DS fired the shot, DD adapts instantly, hence he powers up effectively becuz of the Omega Beams. Also be aware that DS did NOT use the Omega effect in any way. As the panel clearly says Omega Beams. The Omega Effect is DS totality of power. So please show me where DS is weaker when He didnt' even use his trump power?

Didn't he only say Darkseid and Doomsday would be equals but does he ever say Doomsday was killed? Maybe I missed that part if he did. But still he has adaptive powers sure but he would have adapted to the Omega Beams before they killed him. Sure Doomsday attacked from behind but that was because Darkseid was to overconfident that his OB could kill Doomsday. It still never says it does. It could also imply that Darkseid knew he didn't kill Doomsday when he said "Nobody has survived the Omega Beams from point blank range." Meaning Doomsday may have survived to begin with also. There is still nothing pointing to Doomsday dieing besides the overconfident talking of Darkseid who gets beaten easily even if it was a cheapshot which would mean they are comparable in power at least because do you think Superman would have been able to hurt Darkseid that bad if Superman hit Darkseid from behind?

Originally posted by Kento
Didn't he only say Darkseid and Doomsday would be equals but does he ever say Doomsday was killed? Maybe I missed that part if he did. But still he has adaptive powers sure but he would have adapted to the Omega Beams before they killed him. Sure Doomsday attacked from behind but that was because Darkseid was to overconfident that his OB could kill Doomsday. It still never says it does. It could also imply that Darkseid knew he didn't kill Doomsday when he said "Nobody has survived the Omega Beams from point blank range." Meaning Doomsday may have survived to begin with also. There is still nothing pointing to Doomsday dieing besides the overconfident talking of Darkseid who gets beaten easily even if it was a cheapshot which would mean they are comparable in power at least because do you think Superman would have been able to hurt Darkseid that bad if Superman hit Darkseid from behind?

Originally posted by Galan007
Don't try to change what we saw on panel, with your own opinion... 🙂

DD was not killed by DS...

And DD beat DS senseless, with little effort.

Everyone agrees with this except you...

FYI,

Your constant digging/making excuses for DS, is getting a tad on the pathetic side. 🙂

Is not the Omega effect not DS most powerful blast? where is it on panel? You try to say They were not equals in power when clearly DS didn't even use his power to it's fullest. Nuff said. That argument is null and void. DS jobbered.

Originally posted by Kento
Didn't he only say Darkseid and Doomsday would be equals but does he ever say Doomsday was killed? Maybe I missed that part if he did. But still he has adaptive powers sure but he would have adapted to the Omega Beams before they killed him. Sure Doomsday attacked from behind but that was because Darkseid was to overconfident that his OB could kill Doomsday. It still never says it does. It could also imply that Darkseid knew he didn't kill Doomsday when he said "Nobody has survived the Omega Beams from point blank range." Meaning Doomsday may have survived to begin with also. There is still nothing pointing to Doomsday dieing besides the overconfident talking of Darkseid who gets beaten easily even if it was a cheapshot which would mean they are comparable in power at least because do you think Superman would have been able to hurt Darkseid that bad if Superman hit Darkseid from behind?

Superman would never power up Doomsday so much. Doomsday adapts on the fly, so the strength he gets to beat DS FROM BEHIND would be a direct result of DS own Omega BEAMS.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That argument is null and void. DS jobbered.

Originally posted by Galan007
The..... bias..... is..... incredible.. vegetajv2

REDICULOUS. You call it bias when Darksied clearly didn't use his most powerful blast? WTF. How dare you. I call Jobbersied since he didnt' use his OE. Thank God for New Gods 15. Evidently the real Ds would use the OE, cuz that avatar got his ass kicked, even after killing Doomsday. 😛

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thank God for New Gods 15. Evidently the real Ds would use the OE, cuz that avatar got his ass kicked

Originally posted by Galan007
Proof DS in H/P was an avatar?

new Gods 15 and The fact that he didnt' use the Omega Effect. Has an avatar ever used the Omega effect on a powerful being and it actually worked? 😄

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
new Gods 15

Or were you just hoping I hadn't?

Meh,

I already addressed what was said in that issue earlier today:

Originally posted by Galan007
New Gods 15 states that DS does in fact use avatars, [which most of us already knew]..

But it also states that DS prefers NOT to use them, and ONLY does so when his attention must be divided in more then one place...

Now you would tend to think that if an all powerful monster was ravaging DS's planet.... ALL of his attention would be there, [meaning we weren't seeing a mere avatar]... But that's just me.

srug

Anyhow, that's really a moot point....

Unless said issue(s) specifically state that we are seeing an avatar of DS, I won't just assume it was an avatar, simply because I didn't like the outcome of certain events. ermm

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
and The fact that he didnt' use the Omega Effect.

It's simple.... He was over confident. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Have you read New Gods 15?

Or were you just hoping I hadn't?

Meh,

I already addressed what was said in that issue earlier today:

Why didn't he use the Omega Effect?

It's simple.... He was over confident. 🙂

It isn't the point of whether he was over confident or not Galan. The point is you tried to say they weren't equals basing the fact that the OB's didn't put DD permanatly down, when I'm saying there is no proof, becuz DS never used his best shot, AND he was cheap Shotted. DS also Cheap shots DD but DS didn't use his best shot, where as DD did.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It isn't the point of whether he was over confident or not Galan. The point is you tried to say they weren't equals basing the fact that the OB's didn't put DD permanatly down, when I'm saying there is no proof, becuz DS never used his best shot, AND he was cheap Shotted. DS also Cheap shots DD but DS didn't use his best shot, where as DD did.

You said DS was using an avatar during H/P... When there is WAY more evidence to suggest otherwise, [hence the whole point behind my last post]. 🙂

DS got his ass handed to him, with ease..... Accept it, and move on. 🙂