H/P Doomsday vs. Superboy Prime

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The panel supports the theory. Buried under rubble and Not moving. Also DS stating DS is beyond death, unless you can tell me what he meant. Becuz we know doomsday is NOt immortal.

For once I agree with Nvr... DD was not moving at all, was buried and still. We say in H/P that he was adapting on the fly... maybe his resurrection was just faster than normal, same as his adaptation abilities during that arc? I mean to be honest it really doesn't state how much time happened after he got knocked under rubble, DS could have been standing there gloating for a few minutes for all we know.

When DD was alive he would stop at nothing to keep attacking, that's why I personally think that he died briefly.

Originally posted by Kento
Later on in the comic when Superman and Doomsday are fighting Doomsday gets buried under the ground and Superman has time to think to himself about getting up to find Doomsday and that the blast may have been his limit. Does that mean Doomsday was also killed in that blast because he didn't pop right out and Superman had time to think to himself?

I guess because it took a few sentences for DD to attack again, H/P Supes must have killed him too, huh? 🙄

Originally posted by Kento
Doomsday is just shot with the Omega Beams and buried under rubble. The only thing even hinting he's dead is Darkseid saying it, and that's not something to actual take for the truth. He just assumed it worked doesn't mean it did.

Darky's word counts for nothing.... As it's CLEAR, he was wrong. 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How many beings had DS killed and then resurrected? you sure he doesn't know when he's killed someone?

Do you know what else Darky said, whilst he was using the OE against DD?

"The only beings who do not tremble upon hearing of you, are those who do not know of your power...... and I who equal it."

Just after this, DD got up and nearly killed DS, in 4 shots:

So much for DS having "equal power", huh?

But I guess you're right...... Darkseid is never wrong.. 🙂

Originally posted by Kutulu
For once I agree with Nvr... DD was not moving at all, was buried and still. We say in H/P that he was adapting on the fly... maybe his resurrection was just faster than normal, same as his adaptation abilities during that arc? I mean to be honest it really doesn't state how much time happened after he got knocked under rubble, DS could have been standing there gloating for a few minutes for all we know.

When DD was alive he would stop at nothing to keep attacking, that's why I personally think that he died briefly.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's right, I forgot about that. 👆

I guess because it took a few sentences for DD to attack again, H/P Supes must have killed him too, huh? 🙄

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Darky's word counts for nothing.... As it's CLEAR, he was wrong. 🙂
You act as though DS is some uber telepath, who's never wrong. 🙄

Do you know what else Darky said, whilst he was using the OE against DD?

"The only beings who do not tremble upon hearing of you, are those who do not know of your power...... [b]and I who equal it."

Just after this, DD got up and nearly killed DS, in 4 shots:

So much for DS having "equal power", huh?

But I guess you're right...... Darkseid is never wrong.. 🙂 [/B]

😆

but that doesnt make any sense. like u said ds thought he was also equal in power. he couldnt even get a solid hit in and went down in record time. it was pathetic. doomsday literally stomped him.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How many beings had DS killed and then resurrected? you sure he doesn't know when he's killed someone?

And how many of them were able to nearly kill him? Just cause somebody that can die and revive doesn't get up out of something instantly after being hit with a huge attack like that he's dead which could have stunned him just as easily as it could have killed him. Darkseid was boasting thinking he killed the being everybody else feared and pays dearly for his mistake.

Originally posted by Kento
And how many of them were able to nearly kill him? Just cause somebody that can die and revive doesn't get up out of something instantly after being hit with a huge attack like that he's dead which could have stunned him just as easily as it could have killed him. Darkseid was boasting thinking he killed the being everybody else feared and pays dearly for his mistake.

Here's my question on all this: Doomsday was stated to not have any of the usual main organs such as heart, etc.. Normally when a human's heart stops beating, they are considered dead, if they are revived 2 minutes later they are considered alive again. People who have had their heart stop for a couple minutes say that they died for a couple minutes, yet the brain itself has been shown to function for quite some time after the heart stops beating.

Since Doomsday doesn't have the major organs that a human does, and has been shown to come back from what seemed like death, how can we really say if he's dead or not, given his physiology and the fact that he doesn't have a heart or other major organ that you can say has failed.

In other words, how would we even judge if he truly died, given that his physiology and physical makeup are so different than that of a humans'?

Originally posted by Kento
And how many of them were able to nearly kill him? Just cause somebody that can die and revive doesn't get up out of something instantly after being hit with a huge attack like that he's dead which could have stunned him just as easily as it could have killed him. Darkseid was boasting thinking he killed the being everybody else feared and pays dearly for his mistake.

kal-el to the rescue.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Here's my question on all this: Doomsday was stated to not have any of the usual main organs such as heart, etc.. Normally when a human's heart stops beating, they are considered dead, if they are revived 2 minutes later they are considered alive again. People who have had their heart stop for a couple minutes say that they died for a couple minutes, yet the brain itself has been shown to function for quite some time after the heart stops beating.

Since Doomsday doesn't have the major organs that a human does, and has been shown to come back from what seemed like death, how can we really say if he's dead or not, given his physiology and the fact that he doesn't have a heart or other major organ that you can say has failed.

In other words, how would we even judge if he truly died, given that his physiology and physical makeup are so different than that of a humans'?

Course I don't see why H/P gets all the respect as being the strongest when Doomsday Wars Doomsday is the same exact Doomsday but is shown taking out Superman, Kyle, Orion, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, and Flash. Even being unable to have his mind read by MM, though that may be from Brainiac, and being unaffected by Wonder Woman's lasso with no effort at all. Course Brainiac's brain had a lot to do with him not getting trapped sooner in the teleporters but still that was all Doomsday's ability and strength just with intelligence. Also shouldn't Doomsday have evolved to the teleporters?? Then there is Gog Wars Doomsday who as soon as he appeared made me think of Vegeta with saving Superman at the last second except instead of getting beat up was killing Gog's left and right easily though I don't know if that was the real Doomsday or just a clone made by Darkseid like the Batman/Superman ones just a lot stronger than they were.

Originally posted by Kento
Doesn't he have a brain though? He has to have something to think Superman looks like the main scientist guy that made him what he is right? Something to imprint that memory on. Course how to know he isn't dead and instead just koed or something would be extremely difficult if possible at all. Course him dying would probably be just like being koed so it wouldn't matter the difference.

But I agree,

There has to be something which initially triggers DD's body to adapt.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's right, I forgot about that. 👆

I guess because it took a few sentences for DD to attack again, H/P Supes must have killed him too, huh? 🙄

👆

Darky's word counts for nothing.... As it's CLEAR, he was wrong. 🙂
You act as though DS is some uber telepath, who's never wrong. 🙄

Do you know what else Darky said, whilst he was using the OE against DD?

"The only beings who do not tremble upon hearing of you, are those who do not know of your power...... [b]and I who equal it."

If you and I are evenly matched, and you surpise me from behind and beat the hell out of me, am I weaker than you becuz I couldn't react to your attack? explain.

Just after this, DD got up and nearly killed DS, in 4 shots:

So much for DS having "equal power", huh?

But I guess you're right...... Darkseid is never wrong.. 🙂 [/B]

So if you attack me from behind, and we both have equal strength and power, will you likely get the victory?

He has to have something to remember Metropolis, Superman, and the scientist guy though right? Also if he's Kryptonian and powered by Solar Energy would he be affected by Kryptonite once for a kill? Obviously any sun would probably power him since the red sun would have had to power him but could that also mean he can be drained of it all by somebody like Surfer or something?

Originally posted by Kento
but could that also mean he can be drained of it all by somebody like Surfer or something?

DD killed hundreds of GL's..... So I'd tend to think not.

Originally posted by Galan007
Something like that is easily withing the power of a GL...

DD killed [b]hundreds of GL..... So I'd tend to think not. [/B]

Well Just how powerful is DS if the gaurdians had make peace with him?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well Just how powerful is DS if the gaurdians had make peace with him?

Originally posted by Galan007
Something like that is easily withing the power of a GL...

DD killed [b]hundreds of GL..... So I'd tend to think not. [/B]

Originally posted by Kento
It would be within there power sure but did they try it? They wouldn't even know about it so why would they think about it? But if he's powered by Solar Energy like it's said he'd have to at least be able to have it drained once or at least have some of it drained before he adapts to the energy that is doing it. And he's Kryptonian so Kryptonite should affect him once also in theory.

Originally posted by Galan007
Not as powerful as DD, who pwned him with 4 shots. 🙂

Has nothign to do with it. Ds owned DD with one maybe two. DD has a power DS doesn't. Not more powerful. Just different power.

Originally posted by Kento
It would be within there power sure but did they try it? They wouldn't even know about it so why would they think about it? But if he's powered by Solar Energy like it's said he'd have to at least be able to have it drained once or at least have some of it drained before he adapts to the energy that is doing it. And he's Kryptonian so Kryptonite should affect him once also in theory.

Kryptonite would have been the first thing DD evolved past. He did seem to need sunlight at first. As he was buried by the Radiant's people. But it's odd, cuz the first thing we see, is him digging his way out of the ground. So where did this power or life come from?

Originally posted by Kento
It would be within there power sure but did they try it? They wouldn't even know about it so why would they think about it? But if he's powered by Solar Energy like it's said he'd have to at least be able to have it drained once or at least have some of it drained before he adapts to the energy that is doing it. And he's Kryptonian so Kryptonite should affect him once also in theory.

Doomsday is not kryptonian. The experiments were simply done in ancient krypton.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Has nothign to do with it. DD owned DD with one maybe two. DD has a power DS doesn't. Not more powerful. Just different power.

You can't dispute that..... It's written on the panel. 😬

Now if they were truly equal, Darky would have been able to pwn DD with 4 shots as well... But do you honestly see that happening?

Hell no!