Dating and race

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
K.K.K.id Rock (the liar) -saying he likes Black people yet calls Blacks on here Monkeys all the time- and yourself, among others, are the perfect examples of White guilt. It must get tiring constantly having to defend yourselves from the association your race has with, well racism, because of the country's water-hosing past it's ashamed of. Why do you think Whites feel uncomfortable when the race issue comes up in public? Either that or they get extremely offensive when the question wasn't even offensive. It could be as simple as "What do you think about racism in America?." And they'll say something like "I have Black friends, Ok. I'm not a racist, Ok.." It's laughable.

I think all the ad hominem attacks on here are the results of unbottled frustration and racial fatigue.

There's that martyrdom complex flaring up again. You racist prick.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Even though I said most Whites rather than all you appear offended. your family appears to not have the preference. So worry not. If so, would it be an insult to call a fat kid a fatboy.

If I was to follow your line of thinking, FotN I could voice the argument that most black people are presumptuous bigots.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Even though I said most Whites rather than all you appear offended. your family appears to not have the preference.

i wasn't upset when you said most whites, i was upset about this:

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Well, tell me, if you are White, would you, when your child becomes of age, let him or her date an Black-African or an African-American person? Would you approve of it 100%? Would your parents 100% approve of you dating Blacks?

The rhetorical device you were using was to presume that either I or my family have racist motivations to our actions, which of course is being presumed without having ever interacted with them.

The reason I am upset is because you are trying to imply that, as a white person, I have to prove the non-racism of myself or my family to you, even without any reason for you to believe that we are racists.

The question you asked, to me personally, was a joke, and would only have any impact or be relevent in a worldview where it is assumed most white people would behave in the way you describe. That worldview supposes certain behavioural and ideological truths about "whites" which I am positive you would not be happy with me or anyone else supposing about black people. For instance, if I were to tell you that I assumed your mother hated me because she is an intolorant black supremeist, you would be justified in punching me in the teeth. The fact that you think you are making a point by asking white people about their racist motivations is VERY telling about what YOU think motivates white people, and shows that you think white people as a race share common motivations, which is false.

Most telling however is this:

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
So worry not. If so, would it be an insult to call a fat kid a fatboy.

Not only for what it says, but what it does not say. To begin with, you basically justify your blatent disregard for the very tolorance that you desire by claiming that my parents could in fact be the "fatboy". The very thing you know made me upset in the first place. However, more damning is the lack of an appology.

All I asked for was for you to appologize for insinuating that my parents are racist. I think that is a fair request and should, provided you have any human decency, elicit a prompt retraction of your statements.

Originally posted by KidRock
I know its hard for you to comprehend but some white and black people get along.

I call YOU a monkey because you're stupid and do nothing but hang around on the same subject in every thread...not because you are black.

Some. Hm, I wonder what the percentage is?

You're an idiot that's only foolong your fanbase. You don't like Blacks..Monkeys? Okay, what about the fried chicken references. Or the Whites are better references, or all the other racial slurs you've thrown in here, cowboy. You even called Rose Parks a criminal because she would give up her seat to a White man. What was that all about, cowboy.

Originally posted by inimalist
i wasn't upset when you said most whites, i was upset about this:

The rhetorical device you were using was to presume that either I or my family have racist motivations to our actions, which of course is being presumed without having ever interacted with them.

The reason I am upset is because you are trying to imply that, as a white person, I have to prove the non-racism of myself or my family to you, even without any reason for you to believe that we are racists.

The question you asked, to me personally, was a joke, and would only have any impact or be relevent in a worldview where it is assumed most white people would behave in the way you describe. That worldview supposes certain behavioural and ideological truths about "whites" which I am positive you would not be happy with me or anyone else supposing about black people. For instance, if I were to tell you that I assumed your mother hated me because she is an intolorant black supremeist, you would be justified in punching me in the teeth. The fact that you think you are making a point by asking white people about their racist motivations is VERY telling about what YOU think motivates white people, and shows that you think white people as a race share common motivations, which is false.

Most telling however is this:

Not only for what it says, but what it does not say. To begin with, you basically justify your blatent disregard for the very tolorance that you desire by claiming that my parents could in fact be the "fatboy". The very thing you know made me upset in the first place. However, more damning is the lack of an appology.

All I asked for was for you to appologize for insinuating that my parents are racist. I think that is a fair request and should, provided you have any human decency, elicit a prompt retraction of your statements.

The most you're going to get is a backhanded apology that contains a veiled dig. He can't help it, he's racist to his core sothere's always going to be some sort of "white agenda". He CAN'T see things other than in black and white. It's not possible for someone who's racist.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Some. Hm, I wonder what the percentage is?

You're an idiot that's only foolong your fanbase. You don't like Blacks..Monkeys? Okay, what about the fried chicken references. Or the Whites are better references, or all the other racial slurs you've thrown in here, cowboy. You even called Rose Parks a criminal because she would give up her seat to a White man. What was that all about, cowboy.

Ha! What a martyr.

We call you an idiot on an indivudual basis idiot.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's not going to aplogize, cause he's never wrong. in fact he's going to dance *cues circus music*

The most you're going to get is a backhanded apology that contains a veiled dig. He can't help it, he's racist to his core sothere's always going to be some sort of "white agenda". He CAN'T see things other than in black and white. It's not possible for someone who's racist.

i know

its really sad too 🙁

But to be honest, many minority communities hammer this kind of thinking into kids at a very early age, it becomes the only perspective they know

possibly a heart felt explination of why it is offensive to hear what he says will have some effect, doubtful, but I kinda feel the need to defend my family's honor... you know, just the principle and such...

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Some. Hm, I wonder what the percentage is?

You're an idiot that's only foolong your fanbase. You don't like Blacks...

Now no white people like black people? Oook ill go tell all my black friends that I really don't like them. Thank you for informing me chief.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Some. Hm, I wonder what the percentage is?
Okay, what about the fried chicken references. Or the Whites are better references, or all the other racial slurs you've thrown in here, cowboy.

Trying to show you how stereotypes and generalizations are bad, I hope you realize it now and will stop your bigotry.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
. You even called Rose Parks a criminal because she would give up her seat to a White man. What was that all about, cowboy.

The law was back then that you had to give up your seat, people who break laws are criminals, she broke the law.

If that happened today I would not call her a criminal at all.

Anymore brain busters? You racist.

Originally posted by KidRock

The law was back then that you had to give up your seat, people who break laws are criminals, she broke the law.

wasn't she part of an organized civil disobediance movement?

you know, a group of people who willingly break laws to try and force social change?

isn't her being labled a criminal by the establishment the most important part of the Rosa Parks story?

lol, very funny that he would think calling ms parks a criminal is offensive...

Well this was fun. But I am off to a bbq for now.

I think some of my black friends might be there too..oh wait, I dont have any according to FotN..blacks and whites arent allowed to get along.

I look forward to more mindless racism from FotN when I get back.

Originally posted by inimalist
i know

its really sad too 🙁

But to be honest, many minority communities hammer this kind of thinking into kids at a very early age, it becomes the only perspective they know

possibly a heart felt explination of why it is offensive to hear what he says will have some effect, doubtful, but I kinda feel the need to defend my family's honor... you know, just the principle and such...

It'd be nice if he could learn to let go of his racist beliefs but this guy's like a dyed in the wool racist.

Originally posted by inimalist
wasn't she part of an organized civil disobediance movement?

you know, a group of people who willingly break laws to try and force social change?

isn't her being labled a criminal by the establishment the most important part of the Rosa Parks story?

lol, very funny that he would think calling ms parks a criminal is offensive...

The founders of the US were all criminals they were breaking the laws of England.

People forget that the law is not about justice or morals. It's about what it is: The law.

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's justify you offense with some stupid "white guilt" nonsense. which is also used to explain our attacks on him.

It'd be nice if he could learn to let go of his racist beliefs but this guy's like a dyed in the wool racist.

Still, some common courtesy shouldn't be too much to ask.

What is saddest, I find at least, is that people who share FoTNs opinion of white people aren't always ignorant or unintelligent. Even formal educatioin or exposure seems to be unable to shake these types of beliefs from people. While I will be the first to admit that there are still racist or prejudice white people, there is a major issue with the opinions of minorities toward whites (or, the majority), which are very often undeservingly negative.

Originally posted by Creshosk
What people forget is that if a law is unjust then its not immoral to be a criminal regarding it.

The founders of the US were all criminals they were breaking the laws of England.

People forget that the law is not about justice or morals. It's about what it is: The law.

agree 🙂

there is no morality in following unjust laws, that is simply obediance

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Well, tell me, if you are White, would you, when your child becomes of age, let him or her date an Black-African or an African-American person? Would you approve of it 100%? Would your parents 100% approve of you dating Blacks?

(wow, that one smells like a whole new thread in some way.)

To be honest, No (about 100% approval)... and I am not even white.

How did a thread on dating b/c a topic about FOTN?

Why the hell would you revive it if it had gotten off topic?

Damn, what does it take to get banned around here? 😆

You have got to be one of the least intelligent thread starters.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I figure "race" might be a factor when it comes to phenotypical preferences.

W-why were half the guys you "dated" in relationships?

Also, I currently date a white girl from a different country...I guess similar cultures though. It's working quite well. In fact she is touching me as we speak.

Correction. I never dated 4-6 and 8, those guys were just interested in me (or vise versa) but I figured out that they had someone already it was a no-go, tricky tricky.