Goku vs Pre Crisis Superman

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maybe if you had read all the posts above, you'd know the context and would have deduced that we were discussing whether or not Superman could be hurt by a ki blast which is a pure force energy... no radiation.

You silly mofo, i never said he couldn't be moved, i said it WOULDN"T HURT HIM... does he suffer any kind of damage from that attack? don't think so, you fail. Please, just stop trying 'cause you're making yourself look stupid. I wouldn't have made the statement if i didn't know what i was talking about. This isn't my opinion here, it's fact; no pure force (non-radiated) energy attack can hurt Superman... or for that matter, anyone of Superman's class. With that said, Superman crushes Goku... get over it.

No damage? As I already said, it knocked him out.

Why respond if you're not gonna take the time to read and comprehend everything someone has written first? parroting myself is lame. I've already said this, but i'll say once more in a clearer way...

Telekinetic force = a punch, it's solid.
Kamehameha wave ≠ a punch, it's not solid.

Have you ever seen Cyclops fire his optic blast at Juggernaut? It has no effect, Juggs simply walks through it because it's not completely solid; it's integrity only holds until it's met with a force greater than itself. On the other hand, a telekinetic blast can effect him because it's essentially as solid as a punch delivered by a fist.

get it?

Also, i'd like to see proof that Superman was knocked out by a telekinetic blast and under what context it occurred.

Ok, you win. That's clearly a force beam with no radiation, the red and yellow crap in the panel surrounding Supes, is just there to depict motion. glare

Goku isn't blasting Superman with a beam of that power anyways Superman has been upgraded since then

Originally posted by marwash22
Why respond if you're not gonna take the time to read and comprehend everything someone has written first? parroting myself is lame. I've already said this, but i'll say once more in a clearer way...

Telekinetic force = a punch, it's solid.
Kamehameha wave ≠ a punch, it's not solid.

Have you ever seen Cyclops fire his optic blast at Juggernaut? It has no effect, Juggs simply walks through it because it's not completely solid; it's integrity only holds until it's met with a force greater than itself. On the other hand, a telekinetic blast [b]can effect him because it's essentially as solid as a punch delivered by a fist.

get it?

Also, i'd like to see proof that Superman was knocked out by a telekinetic blast and under what context it occurred. [/B]

Oh, I'm calm. It's just tiring having to repeat myself unnecessarily; all the replier has to do is read and comprehend.

Goku. He will just improve to that level needed to beat Superman. Eventually he surpasses Superman.

Originally posted by the Darkone
PC Superman pisses on Goku, DBZ are not in the same league with DC or Marvel. PC Superman throws planets like they where baseballs.

Vegeta in DBZ in the beginning could destroy a planet, at the end of DBZ Goku was literally more than 1000 times more powerful.
I mean Freeza destroyed a planet with a finger and was literally a joke and an ant comapred to what level Goku reached at the end of DBZ.
The problem with DBZ was that many times they didn't portray their power level compared to past battles.

You speak of weak Goku durability while he takes blasts that could destroy planets and easily continues to fight.

By that logic Goku can't lose to anyone, ever. But he has. So that's just simply wrong.

That's fanboy logic for ya.

Imagine Superman... but with a power level and ki abilities. C'mon son, if Marvel/DC character were able to flex their powers like anime characters do, they'd destroy entire cities, their just stronger.

Originally posted by King Kandy
By that logic Goku can't lose to anyone, ever. But he has. So that's just simply wrong.

He has, but in the next ten to twenty episodes, he already surpassed that opponent by ten times. 🙂

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Regular Supes would win..PC would just stomp..Goku durability doesn't even come close to Supes..he can't even survive a planet exploding..

Aha. Freeza destroys a planet with one finger easily, but can't kill Goku with full power and Goku can't survive a planet exploding power?

Originally posted by Xplosive
He has, but in the next ten to twenty episodes, he already surpassed that opponent by ten times. 🙂

I vote we just ignore marwash.

Looks like he's just trolling. At least quanchi is consistent and responds to arguments, instead of making up stuff and pretending it's a debate.

theres simply no way goku could beat PC supes. his concept was way to broken to allow it

What have i said that isn't true? Failing to come up with a legitimate counter to an argument and accusing someone of trolling is an excellent debate tactic. glare

Speed kills.

Originally posted by Bentley
Sneeze kills.

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