Originally posted by llagrok
Nope.Anyways, Superman freezes Goku and tosses him into space 🙂
Illa, how's the Zero Tolerance policy coming along?
So far so good. I've been called Hitler and some racial slurs I'd rather not rehash, but I've really got the forums best interests at heart. Anyone that knows me knows I'm a fair and personable cat. People just are hesitant and sometimes downright volatile to change.
I'm trying to enforce the KMC Equivalent of Brown vs. The Board of education. I expected some retaliation.
Originally posted by Badabing
You said NO to the dur. llagrok, don't ever go against the dur again. 😐durfist
I have never been into DBZ much. I watched when it first came out. I'm glad some of the DBZ fans are posting. 😎
You left the Mongooses, that was worse 🙁|
Originally posted by illadelph12
So far so good. I've been called Hitler and some racial slurs I'd rather not rehash, but I've really got the forums best interests at heart. Anyone that knows me knows I'm a fair and personable cat. People just are hesitant and sometimes downright volatile to change.I'm trying to enforce the KMC Equivalent of Brown vs. The Board of education. I expected some retaliation.
I was kinda hoping you'd go Bastion on Leon's ass.
Something people often forget is that Goku can only maintain SSJ3 form for one minute
Besides, even against Post - Crisis Superman, I haven't seen any strength, speed, or durability feats that would put him in his class. Most arguments in Goku's favor go along the line of "Well character A did feat X, and character B is stronger than character A, and character C is stronger than character B, and Goku is stronger than character C, so Goku can do way more than feat X" which is rather flawed logic when you break it down. I could say how the Punisher beat Spider-man, Spider-man beat Firelord, Firelord can destroy planets, therefore the Punisher can destroy planets.
It doesn't work that way.
Originally posted by Endless Mikewhich is why i'm working on a stat rating that would give us some clear answers
Something people often forget is that Goku can only maintain SSJ3 form for one minuteBesides, even against Post - Crisis Superman, I haven't seen any strength, speed, or durability feats that would put him in his class. Most arguments in Goku's favor go along the line of "Well character A did feat X, and character B is stronger than character A, and character C is stronger than character B, and Goku is stronger than character C, so Goku can do way more than feat X" which is rather flawed logic when you break it down. I could say how the Punisher beat Spider-man, Spider-man beat Firelord, Firelord can destroy planets, therefore the Punisher can destroy planets.
It doesn't work that way.
by the way he can hold ssj3 for atleast 30 mins and 4 for about 20
i'm also calculating transformation time
If he can only hold that form for a minute then they must move beyond light speed. I've seen Goku in SSJ3 for 3 straight 30 minute episodes. DBZ's physics are completely different than DC's, and you can't impose them on the DBZ characters. The fight is on neutral ground where both character's native universe's physics work at optimum efficiency.
Supes gets all his tricks and Goku gets all of his.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Something people often forget is that Goku can only maintain SSJ3 form for one minuteBesides, even against Post - Crisis Superman, I haven't seen any strength, speed, or durability feats that would put him in his class. Most arguments in Goku's favor go along the line of "Well character A did feat X, and character B is stronger than character A, and character C is stronger than character B, and Goku is stronger than character C, so Goku can do way more than feat X" which is rather flawed logic when you break it down. I could say how the Punisher beat Spider-man, Spider-man beat Firelord, Firelord can destroy planets, therefore the Punisher can destroy planets.
It doesn't work that way.
Uh, yes it does work that way. Goku beat up beings who can destroy planets, Solar Systems and Galaxies.
Goku >>>>>> Any Superman.
I've seen Goku maintain it for longer than that...
Also, the problem with your analogy, is that all DBZ fighters have basically the same powers, super strength, speed, ki blasts (whether they differ right now, is irrelevant), but they are on different levels.
The closest comparisons of comics are, when a comic character gets powered-up. Superman is sundipped vs Superman not sundipped, would be akin to comparing two Z fighters.
Not, Spider-Man or Firelord.