Originally posted by Phenomenol
That is because the 5th dimensional Imps magical dust was sprinkled on him.Even humans were sneezing out windows from the Imp's dust.
It was just sneezing powder. It makes you sneeze, and doesn't give you extra power.
Also no one in canon DBZ has ever destroyed more than a planet.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
It was just sneezing powder. It makes you sneeze, and doesn't give you extra power.Also no one in canon DBZ has ever destroyed more than a planet.
Wrong, the DUST is what gave them the power to do what they did.
Dragonball Z is filled with planet busters, Solar System Busters and Universe destroyers!
Originally posted by illadelph12
To be fair, the properties of that magical sneezing powder weren't clearly defined. You can't definitively say it only caused him to sneeze regularly. I'm pretty sure in Clark's day to day life he wasn't blowing away solar systems due to allergies.
Actually Superman blew out stars before and moved stars and planets with his breath. A sneeze to a normal human is nearly one hundred times more powerful than us blowing out on our own. It was Clarks own power and not the powder.
Originally posted by Phenomenol
Wrong, the DUST is what gave them the power to do what they did.Dragonball Z is filled with planet busters, Solar System Busters and Universe destroyers!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually Superman blew out stars before and moved stars and planets with his breath. A sneeze to a normal human is nearly one hundred times more powerful than us blowing out on our own. It was Clarks own power and not the powder.
And you have definitive proof of that?
Originally posted by PhenomenolCan you prove that without using hearsay and hyperbole?
Wrong, the DUST is what gave them the power to do what they did.Dragonball Z is filled with planet busters, Solar System Busters and Universe destroyers!
Them actually doing it rather than just talking about it?
And no ad hoc speculation either, no "well; they were this powerful then and they got even more powerful so..."
I believe it was mentioned somewhere beforehand but in the event that it wasn't ill reiterate the point. The primary reason a lot of fans believe Goku's power equals or even surpasses Superman's is because the DBZ universe was represented very impressively on the show. We had characters achieving impossible combat speeds, blasting planets effortlessly and engaging in combat that literally destroyed continent size land masses. Everyone on the show looked really damn impressive and demonstrated some type of planetary feat that most viewers would consider”Godly”. While on the other hand, Superman has been handled very poorly by almost every director in all of his movie/tv/cartoon adaptations.
Its one thing to have feats on a panel in a comic book, but its quite another to have it animated and fully realized on screen. Even though we know Supes is vastly more powerful then Goku from the feats we've seen in the comics, the biggest issue is that aside from the comics there is anything else to really indicate that supes is all that powerful. Any live-action/animated adaption of Superman has poorly portrayed his powers to the point that its laughably insulting. Look at the JL and JLU series from Bruce Timm, Superman was a joke in that show. If anyone was to be ignorant to the comics and where to compare both powers by there animated appearances it wouldn't even be competitive. Which brings me to my point that I personally believe Superman's film/animated adaptations have greatly hindered and damaged his image, In fact, if we where to go by the portrayal of both characters I would even go as far to say that Goku is more faithful to Superman's power then Superman is a lot of the time..at least as far as animated/movie adaptations go.
About Son goku's lifting strength, when he was training on Kaiokai. He had four weights strapped on him that each weighed two tons a piece making a total of 8 tons. South Kai increased the weights by 8 more tons, making the total weight ten tons a piece. That's a total of 40 tons, and when Goku transformed into a Supa Saiyai-jin, he carried said weights easily. Furthermore, those weights were not actually the stated weight since kaiokai's planet has a gravity that is 10 times that of earth. Meaning that his weights are not relative to the weights on earth, plus he had heavy clothing.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
call who? the guy who thinks superman travelling from one galaxy to the next in a couple of seconds should be taken as cannon?! GIMME A DAMN BREAK. its already been elaborated that superman can only go below lightspeed and after considerable effort. thats why he ALWAYS loses to flash. the feats of him travelling from the earth to the sun in 8 seconds is about as authentic as him absorbing the blast from the megido warhead or gl's destroying universe busters.
Post crisis superman has been shown to have FTL speed many occasions. I've made posts with images in the Goku vs Supes thread in the game vs section.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
lol, why dont you take it up with the creators/old writers. theyl smack you a good one if you say supes can go beyond lightspeed. he is SPECIFICALLY below lightspeed now. one of his many post crisis power downs. cause beyond lightspeed, he could just spin in circles and time travel and the writers desperately wanted to get rid of it. why dont you go to dc's offical site and check out the man of steal's bio.and yes, flash can also only go AT lightspeed in the normal world. when he goes beyond lightspeed he enters the spead force realm.
You need to read up on Flash and Supes because you are very wrong.