Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
I hate to say it, but i agree with you. Honestly i think thiers a general dragonball discontempt (is that the right word?) which clouds peoples judgement on these forums. It could be the way that the show was set up, which makes it difficult to compare to some comic book characters, but i think if you look at the show logically, and through the implied... power, per say
its not hard to understand why the majority of comic book characters would fall hard to even the weaker DBZ characters.When you have a character that is moving so fast that his opressers semmingly pass through an inanimate shilouette of him, you can grasp how truely powerful such a "low level" (at the time) being is.
Then again,Thats just my opinion though.
I read the manga, long ago. I was a fan of DBZ, I am ashamed to say ( 😛 ).
And while I acknowledge their power, they don't have enough CONCRETE feats to pit them against high heralds.
At the end of Z, they can casually destroy a planet (kid buu did....) - that's easily Silver Surfer level energy projection.
BUT - they are levelled by punches that are far below the strength of Superman/Hulk/Surfer level characters.
Their energy durability is good enough to withstand what MUST be planet busting attacks, and yet, their 'physical' durability cannot withstand a few (dozen) punches from someone who is hundreds of times weaker than Superman, Thanos, or et cetera.
They are fast in combat - no doubt - but there is never a determination of said speed. Speed of sound? We don't hear any sonic booms, but I guess we could always chalk that up to comic physics.
Speed of light? PURE conjecture. 😬.
Hell, I don't even remember where it's referenced that Pan flew around the world in two minutes. In fact, the manga I has says "Grandpa! I just travelled the Earth!"
To which he responds "Good! That was pretty fast."
But it makes no mention of 'two minutes.'
So, they have huge energy blasts, and amazing energy durability, but (comparitively) PATHETIC physical attacks and durability, not to mention speed when you compare them to high heralds.
As far as passing through the 'silhouette' of a character - it's not terribly impressive. Black Panther, Cap, and Spiderman have all dodged in a similar manner.
Would I put them on the same speed level? Of course not. But your evidence is lacking.