Originally posted by Soljer
They're actually really hard to classify. The characters have had the power to destroy planets since the Saiya-jin/Freeza sagas. Via extrapolation, it should be clear that they are MANY MANY times more powerful by the series' close. However, their fighting speed never seems to vary. They never seem like they can move anywhere NEAR lightspeed. They can clearly lift VERY little weight (compared to herald-levellers) - fourty tons was too much for Goku.So....
They should be able to EASILY one-shot planets - yay for herald level.
But they lack any sort of definable speed feat, save moving too fast for the human eye to follow - which Captain America and Wolverine have done in the past - nay for herald level.
They lack any sort of strength feats beyond around fourty tons - nay for herald level.
Their durability? Well - it's hard to say. They take blasts that SHOULD be planet destroying all the time, but they never get punched with class 100 force - much less Superman level force. We see how badly the Z-characters (comparitively) weak punches affect one another, imagine if someone who could lift billions of times of tons were to hit them. It'd be a one shot. Sounds like a nay for herald level to me.
Sorry soljer about this, youre a cool guy but i see a lot of errors. 1st, we all know that all of the ki planets have extreme gravity. Goku was training on the main ki planet when it was time for him to lift those weights. Now lets imagine. Before Vegita became a super saiyan he was training in 500 times earth gravity. This is before he became super saiyan. Now the gravity that goku was training in during the martial arts tournament had to be much more extreme, due to the fact that he became much more than a regular saiyan, he became a super saiyan 3. So we dont know how much the weights was that goku was lifting during that time.
The thing that voids out you assumptions about goku only being able to lift 40 tons was when gohun as the great saiyan man moved a crane that weighed over 100 tons with ease. Carried a plane of 900 people with one hand back to safety. Was tapping his feat up and down creating a earth quake. Goku during his teenage years (anime) picked up and moved a piece of a mountain with ease looking for the banshu fan. Picked a picollo up that stood 50 ft in the air and through him to the other side of the ring. Goku as a child picked up a man and through him across an entire city.
Now lets go to the durability. It has already been established that superman is more durable than goku BUT goku durability is in the range of hulk, could be more. The reason why im sayin this. Goku as a child was hit on the head with a ax and it broke over his head. Goku was stabbed by mercenary x and the blade broke on him but he didnt even acknowledge it. Goku was in a room looking for gohun and a thousand iron arrows shot out at him and they all bent upon contact. Took punches that was leveling everything around him.
Now lets go to speed. After the boo saga, pan was born. Goku decided to train pan to become a warrior as a child (maybe 4 or 5). Goku tested her to see how fast she could fly around the world and she did it less than 2 minutes (but goku wasnt satisfied and had her do it again.).
To me any dbz character is above herald level. If frieza was to come to dc or marvel, he could rule. There would hardly be anyone that could stand in his way.
If superman was to display his power in front of frieza, frieza would laugh at him and might wouldnt even consider him a threat. Goku fighting speed and maybe any other speed he has is so far above superman that its rediculous.