Endless Mike
Sqirrel Girl fanboy
Originally posted by tooa/presence
If you go by how strong the DBZ fighters were at the beginning and agree that they just got stronger, faster, quicker, etc. from there (which you should or else you're a DBZ hater)
Loaded statement/appeal to emotion fallacy.
then the DBZ fighters are faster than light.
Non - sequiter. How does "faster than they were earlier" = "faster than light"?
In the Vegeta saga they couldn't even see the fight going on.
For short bursts, not the whole giht.
What do we see? light. If a fight with many punches and blocks cannot be seen Tthat's the difference because you can argue that humans can't see a bullet so does that mean the bullet is faster than light but you can see when the bullet hits something and this is a fight with many punches and blocks. They should have been able to see at least something hit, but they couldn't.), then they are faster than light.
That's some of the stupidest logic I've ever heard. If an object is moving around at widely varying speeds and random paths, it cannot be seen. It has to do with the ability of your eyes and brain to track it, not anything with light. Spider-man moves faster than people can see, is he faster than light too?
In fact, under the right circumstances, a human - size object will appear invisible when travelling at only 200 miles per hour. All it means is that your eyes can't track it correctly. Eyes don't detect every single photon emitted anywhere, they have a frame rate, and that is further reduced by blinking, blind spots, neural interference, etc. Look up some websites on optical illusions, you will see the eye can easily be fooled in many ways.
But DBZ doesn't really go like that. I mean Hercules could see Fat Boo and Majin Boo fighting.
And the reporters could see Nappa and the Z crew fighting, the audience at the Cell games could see Cell and Goku and Gohan fighting, the audience at the tournaments could see Goten and Trunks fighting, etc. There are tons of examples. DBZ characters can't move fast enough to be completely invisible to people for an entire fight, but only for short bursts of a few seconds each.
But comics are the same way at times. Characters that can fight light speeds don't always fight at light speeds. If that was the case wouldn't Superman try to speedblitz everyone to death? Plus it wouldn't make for a good read in my opinion.
Come back when you have a firm grasp of science and logic.
Seriously, I've had enough of this "They move so fast people can't see them, therefore they move faster than light" shit. Anyone with a grade - school education would be able to realize how utterly stupid that is.
DBZ characters have no feats that put them anywhere near lightspeed. None. Nada.
Light can travel around the entire world over 7 times in one second. If they were that fast, they wouldn't take hours to fly places, and when they were running away from someone, they wouldn't only make it a short distance. (Example: Gohan and Kaioshin flew away from Buu, while they were flying, Babidi, who doesn't have super speed, was ranting at Fat Buu and nearly a minute passed, then Buu took off after them and caught up, and they hadn't even gotten out of the same general area).