Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm just teasing you for the way you phrased those.
Naah, its ok. Just having fun debating with you all but i stil think that thanos would lose. BADLY. Im glad youre not one of the guys that curse, bash, and insult people. Just remember everyone; everybody that is debating has there own opinions.
Originally posted by carver9Oh I do if you manage to rile me up bad enough. ermm
Naah, its ok. Just having fun debating with you all but i stil think that thanos would lose. BADLY. Im glad youre not one of the guys that curse, bash, and insult people. Just remember everyone; everybody that is debating has there own opinions.
Now in the other thread... I wasn't calling you an idiot. I was saying what you said was... well off.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh I do if you manage to rile me up bad enough. ermmNow in the other thread... I wasn't calling you an idiot. I was saying what you said was... well off.
Cool but dont let anything that i say get to you. Now if i come off the wrong way, please let me know so i can correct myself. By the way. Thanos loses this fight.
Originally posted by carver9
I believe you really have something against dragonball. When has a dragonball character ever needed to destroy a universe. That wasnt the point of there being. If cell is light years more powerful than master roshi and master roshi had the ability to create enough power to destroy a moon what should that tell you. If vegeta destroyed a planet with two fingers what does that tell you. If brolly destroyed an entire galaxy in a matter of seconds, what does that tell you.Cell had the ability to destroy a universe but he never had a reason to do so. Frieza had the power to destroy a universe but he never had a reason to do so. It was even stated that raditz had the power to destroy the planet (which he did) but did he do it, no.
Darkseid has the ability to wipe superman off the face of the planet but has he done it, no. Does that mean that he cant do it, no.
Your logics arent making any sense. Thanos, superman, etc.. dont have enough fighting speed to keep up with the weakest of the dragonball z characters (krillin), so how will they possess any kind of way of beating these characters.
Do you want to know the sad thing about this. Wizard created a fight with superman vs krillin. I know people dont like wizard but guess who won, krillin. Wizard also made an edition with the jla vs vegita and nappa and nappa soloed the team ending with vegeta killing the flash. Wizard also made a battle with superman vs goku, to bad goku won.
All superman fans and goku haters are all going to be one sided. I like both characters and know that superman or thanos dont have enough combat speed to keep up with any character from dbz.
I have absolutely nothing against Dragonball Z. In fact, it's one of my favorite shows to watch ever. I've seen all the episodes, including Dragonball GT, and I own all the movies.
The problem I have with people debating Dragonball characters is that a lot of times people use what the characters state themselves as proof of feats. We all know that the DBZ world is FULL of sh*t-talkers, and that includes the heroes. They talk a lot about what they are capable of but never seem to follow through. That's why it's so important to show on panel proof with them so as to discern the truth from the hyperbole.
As for Wizard, I'll skip over that. Their battles should NEVER be brought in as evidence.
Destroying a planet or a moon is completely different than destroying a universe. Gladiator destroyed a planet with his fists. Yet, he has no hope of destroying a universe.
They do have a lot of combat speed, I will give you that. But how much speed do they have compared to someone like Superman? We don't know. What I do know is that Thanos has neutralized a speedblitz attack before from Fallen One, whom is a herald.
Originally posted by celestialdemonThis is my biggest issue as well.
The problem I have with people debating Dragonball characters is that a lot of times people use what the characters state themselves as proof of feats. We all know that the DBZ world is FULL of sh*t-talkers, and that includes the heroes. They talk a lot about what they are capable of but never seem to follow through. That's why it's so important to show on panel proof with them so as to discern the truth from the hyperbole.
There was a point if I recall correctly, where Vegeta trash talked and cowed someone into leaving. After they left he requested a Senzu bean. Weh nthe other person asked why he told them that he was lieing.
Practically everyone in DBZ trash talks. And for somereason the people debateing DBZ are gullible enough to believe them.
Originally posted by Creshosk
This is my biggest issue as well.There was a point if I recall correctly, where Vegeta trash talked and cowed someone into leaving. After they left he requested a Senzu bean. Weh nthe other person asked why he told them that he was lieing.
Practically everyone in DBZ trash talks. And for somereason the people debateing DBZ are gullible enough to believe them.
And they hold stupid double standards as well. Apparently the scans of Surtur destroying galaxies were "exaggerations and hyperbole" despite the fact that it actually happened, but Cell saying he could destroy the solar system is uncontestable fact. 🙄
Originally posted by Endless MikeYeah I experienced phenominal's fanboyism firsthand for that one.
And they hold stupid double standards as well. Apparently the scans of Surtur destroying galaxies were "exaggerations and hyperbole" despite the fact that it actually happened, but Cell saying he could destroy the solar system is uncontestable fact. 🙄
Dragon Ball Z is pure hyperbole. Broly destroyed all life in a galaxy, world by world, he didn't obliterate the entire galaxy himself.
In the beginning of DBZ, the Saiyans claim they can travel faster than light, meanwhile, it is later revealed that Goku while battling Ginyu Force was able to travel 10,000 mp/second ...yeah a little off there.
Also, the DBZ Universe hasn't been shown to be as extensive as Marvel's or DC's, where far more things have happened.
The DBZ characters are certainly powerful, but nothing that people like Dark Pheonix or Parallax can't handle.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
[b]Dragon Ball Z is pure hyperbole. Broly destroyed all life in a galaxy, world by world, he didn't obliterate the entire galaxy himself.In the beginning of DBZ, the Saiyans claim they can travel faster than light
Actually, in one of the American dubs, Picollo said Raditz moved faster than light, but that was an error in the translation, nothing like that was ever stated in the original manga or anime.
meanwhile, it is later revealed that Goku while battling Ginyu Force was able to travel 10,000 mp/second ...yeah a little off there.
I've never even heard that figure. Where is this from?
Also, the DBZ Universe hasn't been shown to be as extensive as Marvel's or DC's, where far more things have happened.The DBZ characters are certainly powerful, but nothing that people like Dark Pheonix or Parallax can't handle. [/B]
You don't need to go that far.
I would say nothing that Kyle Rayner or Martian Manhunter can't handle
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
[b]Dragon Ball Z is pure hyperbole. Broly destroyed all life in a galaxy, world by world, he didn't obliterate the entire galaxy himself.In the beginning of DBZ, the Saiyans claim they can travel faster than light, meanwhile, it is later revealed that Goku while battling Ginyu Force was able to travel 10,000 mp/second ...yeah a little off there.
Also, the DBZ Universe hasn't been shown to be as extensive as Marvel's or DC's, where far more things have happened.
The DBZ characters are certainly powerful, but nothing that people like Dark Pheonix or Parallax can't handle. [/B]
The saiyans couldnt travel at light speed in the begining of DBZ and they never stated that, there was one side step from raditz and in a mis dub it was stated he could move faster than the speed of light but in the manga Piccolo was just shocked Raditz side stepped it.
Its in the android saga somewhere, if it was before Goku would have wondered why Vegeta was a super saiyan, so it isn't in the 3 year training gap. and its before the room of spirit and time because Gohan isnt a super saiyan.
But like all movies this makes no sense, because Goku should be dieing from a heart virus, and the rest should be fighting the androids....
Originally posted by Sparkz
Its in the android saga somewhere, if it was before Goku would have wondered why Vegeta was a super saiyan, so it isn't in the 3 year training gap. and its before the room of spirit and time because Gohan isnt a super saiyan.But like all movies this makes no sense, because Goku should be dieing from a heart virus, and the rest should be fighting the androids....
That's true. That sort of puts it in the What If non-cannon category.
Originally posted by Sundipped
That's true. That sort of puts it in the What If non-cannon category.
Pretty much, and this is the case with all of the films, because they all have the same problems, look at the first cooler movie, Goku is back early from space...and can't become a super saiyan at will and he isn't training with Gohan and Piccolo.