please battlehammer, Jonathanos and any who want to debate Logan vs Hulk this is irrelevent in this thread, Dantes weapons are not Adamantium and this is hijacking the thread with "can Logan cut Hulk" ill report if this does not stop.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Where did you get the last point from?
he got it from a bad cutscene that doesnt really show much at all, all he does is apprently eat a load of souls, then V2D calls that dimension destroying.....not to menstion against an opponent like Dante hes not going to have time to do anything to do with dimensional attacks, he would have to use plain soul rip (can he do this from a distance) but anyway now ime joining a new hijack....Hulk wins
Originally posted by Burning thought
please battlehammer, Jonathanos and any who want to debate Logan vs Hulk this is irrelevent in this thread, Dantes weapons are not Adamantium and this is hijacking the thread with "can Logan cut Hulk" ill report if this does not stop.
He has a big hard on for Wolverine cutting the Hulk, even in threads where Wolverine isn't involved. He's argued it in the past anytime someone mentions Wolverine not cutting the Hulk in some instances in the past, no matter who many times he was proven wrong with scans, and has yet to back up his facts with scans.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtStory man. Only demons can kills pure demons. And the reason that Sparda form is limited is coz people would use all time and clear stage in 2 minutes. In DMC 3, we see Dante laughing at a headshot. But then he can be killed during the game. Why? Coz that would be no point if the in-game version would be like the story version.
i have played all the games, the only time from what i remember Dante using Sparda form is in-game, which is limited and also from what i remember he never used sparda form against any enemies in cutscenes/cinematics throughout it either.only a demon? where does it say that......
Originally posted by Rewmac
Story man. Only demons can kills pure demons. And the reason that Sparda form is limited is coz people would use all time and clear stage in 2 minutes. In DMC 3, we see Dante laughing at a headshot. But then he can be killed during the game. Why? Coz that would be no point if the in-game version would be like the story version.
He calls SSF form "pure gameplay" and discredits its immunity by the faxt that in his first fight in high demonic form Dante was knocked down by three blasts from Mundus.
Originally posted by Rewmac
Story man. Only demons can kills pure demons. And the reason that Sparda form is limited is coz people would use all time and clear stage in 2 minutes. In DMC 3, we see Dante laughing at a headshot. But then he can be killed during the game. Why? Coz that would be no point if the in-game version would be like the story version.
well i dont remember where it says only demons can kill demons but "shrug" doesnt really matter, Dante is not a pure demon. That can be added to every game mechanic.....reason why is because people would over use it, i could say the same about all of Kains moves in legacy of kain, infact a lot of moves i could but i dont because theres nothing to suggest Dante can become Super sparda form every time, not in cutscenes, nothing would point to this at all. Being killed and being killed by a headshot is entriely diffrent, for example he is many times imapled and cut by Vergil, Dante is no means invincible, the headshot is by a human weapon, wheras Dante is usually fighting and is harmed by demon enemies so his story version is still harmed and can be sliced.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
He calls SSF form "pure gameplay" and discredits its immunity by the faxt that in his first fight in high demonic form Dante was knocked down by three blasts from Mundus.
no, the form is not gameplay....we see it in cutscenes however its immunity is, proven wrong by as you said, it does get penetrated, nothing states afaik (and if you do know, please post the information) that Sparda form is actually invincible. Same with its limitations, theres nothing saying he can stay in DT or SSF at all....he simply triggers it now and then and it lasts for how long he can keep up, proof that its not infnite would be that the orb that takes his soul on that timed level is stated to give him power, it shows he needs an Amp and power to keep up his DT form.
Headshot was from human weapon, yeah, but in DMCverse we know only two persons of demonic legacy who use guns frequently- Dante and his dad.
Guns are thought to be dishonest against notmal demons and it's more than likely that we'll never see Dante being shot from demonic gun in DMC jsut because as for now he's the only person in his univerce using ones (might be sort of know-how of Sparda family, I've explained you that theory not long ago).
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Headshot was from human weapon, yeah, but in DMCverse we know only two persons of demonic legacy who use guns frequently- Dante and his dad.
Guns are thought to be dishonest against notmal demons and it's more than likely that we'll never see Dante being shot from demonic gun in DMC jsut because as for now he's the only person in his univerce using ones (might be sort of know-how of Sparda family, I've explained you that theory not long ago).
well exactley, simply because he cannot or will not be shot by devil guns does not exactley mean anything, the headshot was from a human gun, was it a pistol? from what i remember lady doesnt exactley use very powerful weapons at all, their not even high cal, so his durability through this cannot be boosted, its not his best showing, i think when he is sliced with swords or when those demons put their scythes into him on the first level is a better durability feat.
The showing is that the headshot seems not to do any damage to him at all...he continued talking while being shot. The only ones who got close to killing him were either his equal in terms of rank and superior in terms of experience, or his twin brother who had exactly the same physical stats and knows exactly what weak spots Dante has if any (not to mention that he almost always bested Dante in their sparrings when they were kids).
Also first fight Dante vs Mundus isn't an evidence. We got highly experienced yet arrogant high demonic lord vs unexperienced one who has just unloked his potential. He got motivation but no experience and it's no wonder he got eventually knocked down (but not knocked out or anything) by more experienced opponent, yet he clearly bested him in two other bouts).
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Also first fight Dante vs Mundus isn't an evidence. We got highly experienced yet arrogant high demonic lord vs unexperienced one who has just unloked his potential. He got motivation but no experience and it's no wonder he got eventually knocked down (but not knocked out or anything) by more experienced opponent, yet he clearly bested him in two other bouts).
its evidence SSF is not invincible, the blasts he sends actually penetrate Dantes body while he is in SSF, his experiance is nothing to do with his durability
Originally posted by Kutulu
He has a big hard on for Wolverine cutting the Hulk, even in threads where Wolverine isn't involved. He's argued it in the past anytime someone mentions Wolverine not cutting the Hulk in some instances in the past, no matter who many times he was proven wrong with scans, and has yet to back up his facts with scans.
actauly no one has proven me wrong............becuase im right.
Logan can and does cut the hulk.
also I have listed and shown scanns of this. your rediculous.
I mean how many times do I have to show logan cutting hulk before you stop being a moron?
I mean did you not see that scann of Logan stabbing hulk in the arm? your a joke.
also any time you want a a one on one debate on the subject I be thrilled to make you look the fool.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
actauly no one has proven me wrong............becuase im right.Logan can and does cut the hulk.
also I have listed and shown scanns of this. your rediculous.
I mean how many times do I have to show logan cutting hulk before you stop being a moron?
I mean did you not see that scann of Logan stabbing hulk in the arm? your a joke.
also any time you want a a one on one debate on the subject I be thrilled to make you look the fool.
I just posted a scan of Wolverine not cutting the Hulk with his downward slash. When Hulk was holding Wolverine, Wolvie had better leverage and managed to get a cut in. What's so hard to understand about that?
Originally posted by Kutulu
I just posted a scan of Wolverine not cutting the Hulk with his downward slash. When Hulk was holding Wolverine, Wolvie had better leverage and managed to get a cut in. What's so hard to understand about that?
actaully being held off the ground would give you far worse leverage. Logan had the momentum of his body as well as full mobility of his arm in the first attack.
If logan failed to cut hulk in that attack that controdict that fact logan cut him with far less mobility, leverage and momentum.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully being held off the ground would give you far worse leverage. Logan had the momentum of his body as well as full mobility of his arm in the first attack.If logan failed to cut hulk in that attack that controdict that fact logan cut him with far less movility, leverage and momentum.
Do you, or do you not, admit that Wolverine failed to cut Hulk with his downward attack?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully being held off the ground would give you far worse leverage. Logan had the momentum of his body as well as full mobility of his arm in the first attack.
This is true if someone is weaker than their bodyweight, but in the case of Logan, he is stronger than his bodyweight. Logan can press (lift) as much, or more than, captain America, which is 4-5 times as much as his bodyweight. Therefore, coming down with his bodyweight would do less damage than being braced (since Hulk is holding him) and pushing into Hulk with his full strength.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Do you, or do you not, admit that Wolverine failed to cut Hulk with his downward attack?
harder to cut does not equal not being cut. I mean even looking at the picture you can see hulks skinn was cut.
also if Logan did fail to cut it be complete controdiction to it self sicne Logan cut hulk with far less leverage, mobility, and momentum.
so yes I think he cut hulk, but I don't think it was that damaging of an assualt at all.
Originally posted by Kutulu
This is true if someone is weaker than their bodyweight, but in the case of Logan, he is stronger than his bodyweight. Logan can press (lift) as much, or more than, captain America, which is 4-5 times as much as his bodyweight. Therefore, coming down with his bodyweight would do less damage than being braced (since Hulk is holding him) and pushing into Hulk with his full strength.
false. Logan used his legs to propell him giving him self momentum, and the ability to use his full morbility which would grant him far greater force.
Logan being held in the air gave him far limited mobility and also took away from using most of his body in the assualt.
it pritty simple actaully.
also why would Logan do a surprize attack that would do less damage then a normal assault? think about it man that does not even make sense.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
harder to cut does not equal not being cut. I mean even looking at the picture you can see hulks skinn was cut.
also if Logan did fail to cut it be complete controdiction to it self sicne Logan cut hulk with far less leverage, mobility, and momentum.
so yes I think he cut hulk, but I don't think it was that damaging of an assualt at all.
It is not a contradiction. Read what I wrote again about Logan's strength. When you're strong enough to press 5 times your bodyweight, then being braced will allow you to press with more force than simply jumping down.
