Vs Forum Character Integration Conference

Originally posted by Newjak
And I'll use a comic book example. Just because a comic book character has never been beaten or hurt means that we assume nothing can hurt them. Just look at Juggernaut he has taken attacks that have driven Galactus off does that mean we assume Cain can beat Galactus.

Or Captain America's Shield pretty much deflects everything yet we don't assume he can take blasts from Galactus.

Just like has always been done their abilities are going to be judged on how much evidence you can present for them to do so.

Non sequitur. Comic book characters have clearly defined limits. Bugs Bunny and SSB Mario do NOT.

And then characters like Master Chief have CONFLICTING limits.

Originally posted by The Pict
Maybe because we didn't want it in the first place? I didn't see anyone asking for an integration of the versus forums.

Originally posted by illadelph12

Have you guys actually read what changes I've made or are you simply assuming I've made it open season?

I read the protocols

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes I have even though I haven't been posting or coming everyday I still take like 30 minutes to come on and see whats happening.

And all I see is the samet hing that I've always seen. Immature posters are going to do immature things.

The thing that has surprised me about this is just how much some people are so willing to drive this idea into the ground without even giving it a proper chance. 😬

We should keep the comic-book forums to the comic-book characters....

The Sub-Forum idea sounds good to me.

Originally posted by Newjak
And comic book characters aren't inconsistent 😕

I really don't see why some are confused by our stance on this and insist on implying we're being immature.

There's definitely a need to keep any vs created to analogous characters in terms of their relative power levels and in terms of the most basic mechanics of their worlds - Bugs Bunny and Mario would fall far outside of this. But then Ill already has that in his rules...

I don't think he's confused persay, just arguing for the sake of arguing.

As I've said before, this can be a good thing, but it could also be a very bad one....the sub-forum seems like the best way to preserve the 'sanctity' of comic-only debating, while opening up an 'anything goes' type of forum for a bit more variety.

Originally posted by Soljer
Non sequitur. Comic book characters have clearly defined limits. Bugs Bunny and SSB Mario do NOT.

And then characters like Master Chief have CONFLICTING limits.

Originally posted by Validus
We know their limits and what they can and can't do. It's not even close to being the same.

I really don't see why some are confused by our stance on this and insist on implying we're being immature.

Originally posted by Soljer
Indeed. Then you get even larger conflicts.

Look at the video game forum arguing about Halo - Can Master Chief do all the stuff he could do in the novels? Could he see bullets in slow motion, and run at fifty miles an hour? If so, why didn't he in game?

Which do we take as 'canon?'

Originally posted by Soljer
Non sequitur. Comic book characters have clearly defined limits. Bugs Bunny and SSB Mario do NOT.

And then characters like Master Chief have CONFLICTING limits.

Superman who in one comic can take 50 Supernovas and fight on a planet of K-Nite can in another be put down by a small shard of it.

Your trying to tell me comic characters like Spectre, Mxy, Living Tribunal, Roma all have clearly defined limits

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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There's definitely a need to keep any vs created to analogous characters in terms of their relative power levels and in terms of the most basic mechanics of their worlds - Bugs Bunny and Mario would fall far outside of this. But then Ill already has that in his rules...

Relative power levels, certainly. But mechanics of the world? It's like the Voldemort vs. Superman thread. Let's say Voldemort throws up a shield during his 20 minutes prep.

In harry's world, NOTHING can get through it, because the only things that can TRY are spells and every day humans.

But if Superman tries to force his way through at lightspeed? Starts battering it with earth-moving-punches? How do we deal with that? We've never seen ANY magic in Harry's world subjected to such an onslaught. We've seen magic in the comics break down after being beaten on - but it's a different world, different rules.

😬.

Originally posted by Skeets
Grow up,K?

Originally posted by Rewmac
Yes. And the old rules kinda blocked too much immature infantile people posting because of the true debators who has the knowledge and intelligence they locked out the immature ones from the threads simply by the way they were posting, not by bashing them not by screaming about the rules. These people couldn't get in a debate because they lacked the style and knowledge but now?? nothing gets in their way.

To try and claim so is wrong.

Originally posted by Soljer
Relative power levels, certainly. But mechanics of the world? It's like the Voldemort vs. Superman thread. Let's say Voldemort throws up a shield during his 20 minutes prep.

In harry's world, NOTHING can get through it, because the only things that can TRY are spells and every day humans.

But if Superman tries to force his way through at lightspeed? Starts battering it with earth-moving-punches? How do we deal with that? We've never seen ANY magic in Harry's world subjected to such an onslaught. We've seen magic in the comics break down after being beaten on - but it's a different world, different rules.

😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
Relative power levels, certainly. But mechanics of the world? It's like the Voldemort vs. Superman thread. Let's say Voldemort throws up a shield during his 20 minutes prep.

In harry's world, NOTHING can get through it, because the only things that can TRY are spells and every day humans.

But if Superman tries to force his way through at lightspeed? Starts battering it with earth-moving-punches? How do we deal with that? We've never seen ANY magic in Harry's world subjected to such an onslaught. We've seen magic in the comics break down after being beaten on - but it's a different world, different rules.

😬.

That doesn't mean it's impossible to have analogous basic mechanics in a non-comic vs comic thread.

Originally posted by Soljer
Relative power levels, certainly. But mechanics of the world? It's like the Voldemort vs. Superman thread. Let's say Voldemort throws up a shield during his 20 minutes prep.

In harry's world, NOTHING can get through it, because the only things that can TRY are spells and every day humans.

But if Superman tries to force his way through at lightspeed? Starts battering it with earth-moving-punches? How do we deal with that? We've never seen ANY magic in Harry's world subjected to such an onslaught. We've seen magic in the comics break down after being beaten on - but it's a different world, different rules.

😬.

Like how people claim someone's indestructible, and then have them beating Spectre.

Originally posted by Validus
We know their limits and what they can and can't do. It's not even close to being the same.

I really don't see why some are confused by our stance on this and insist on implying we're being immature.

Originally posted by Newjak
Really so I only imagined xmeat, wolverine8888, and all those other people. You can not block immaturity and we've never been able to.

To try and claim so is wrong.