Superman vs Mangog

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, you're going to ignore what the comic actually states and use an obvious low showing as his average.

In that case, Mangog wins 10000000/10, seeing as Superman has had trouble with human level characters before.

What is shown>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what is said.
A ko is a form of a stun.
That was an average showing. Thor rammed into him from afar (gaining momentum). That was way different than just standing there and swinging on Mangog. Almost every hit in that comic resulted in pain. That means it wasn't a low showing.

Originally posted by h1a8
What is shown>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what is said.
A ko is a form of a stun.
That was an average showing. Thor rammed into him from afar (gaining momentum). That was way different than just standing there and swinging on Mangog. Almost every hit in that comic resulted in pain. That means it wasn't a low showing.

What is shown is that Mangog is stunned for a couple panels before getting back up and if it's truly an average showing like you claim. Then there must be several other examples, so start posting them

MAngog has a new belt buckle with superman corpse dangling from his waist.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor hit him once and Mangog was koed for at least 10 seconds.

This is what happens next 😈

That's not much of a one shot compared to this 🙄

Orion one shotting and carrying Superman by his cape and then waking him up 😄

^ That showing is PRIOR to TWO power ups. :/

Lets see how Orion matches up to Superman next week.

Orion surprised a byrne level superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Orion surprised a byrne level superman.

Calm down dude😮‍💨 I just responded to h1a8's horrible example of what a one shot is.I could've used Thor one shotting Hulk with a lightning bolt as an example of a one shot.But Hulk isn't in this thread.And its rude to derail this thread by mentioning him here.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
^ That showing is PRIOR to TWO power ups. :/

Originally posted by Igniz
This is what happens next 😈

That's not much of a one shot compared to this 🙄

Orion one shotting and carrying Superman by his cape and then waking him up 😄

A weaker Superman getting one shotted by the Astro Force (an energy blast) is ok by me. Nothing wrong with that. IMO, the AF is supposed to rival the OE and the OE is supposed to one shot Superman IMO.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why post the other scene with Mangog? I already said Mangog got up after 10 seconds. The last scan I posted shows Mangog getting up.

A weaker Superman getting one shotted by the Astro Force (an energy blast) is ok by me. Nothing wrong with that. IMO, the AF is supposed to rival the OE and the OE is supposed to one shot Superman IMO.

So, where are the other Mangog feats that prove this is an example of his average and not a low showing?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The writer's purpose was to write a weaker Superman and account for his non upgraded form.

That Superman was weaker than the more current post Superman.
Thus the writer was writing Superman at his normal power levels at that time.

Remember the past comes before the future.

Originally posted by h1a8
That Superman was weaker than the more current post Superman.
Thus the writer was writing Superman at his normal power levels at that time.

Remember the past comes before the future.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, where are the other Mangog feats that prove this is an example of his average and not a low showing?

I already gave them.
If you look at the other instances of Mangog you will see that he winces in pain from multiples strikes of herald level beings.
That means he can be hurt by them.

Thor flew into him (gaining momentum) which strikes harder than any pure swing.
Also the hit knocked the wind out of him. So it's where Thor hit him as well.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
What happened during that comic h1?

why is that relevant?

Originally posted by h1a8
why is that relevant?

You being a smartass doesn't work since you know nothing of the medium.

Anyway, clearly the writer's purpose was to write a weaker Superman. He thought of a script and wondered the best way to implement it, and he went "WEAKER SUPERMAN!" Brilliant!

Originally posted by h1a8
Why post the other scene with Mangog? I already said Mangog got up after 10 seconds. The last scan I posted shows Mangog getting up.

A weaker Superman getting one shotted by the Astro Force (an energy blast) is ok by me. Nothing wrong with that. IMO, the AF is supposed to rival the OE and the OE is supposed to one shot Superman IMO.

Again!Your example of a one shot is horrible compared to the example I showed of what an actual one shot is 🙄

BTW there is no indication Mangog was knocked out for 10 seconds.Your post is at best, is nothing more than speculation.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because you didn't read it, and the only thing you know of it is that it happened in the past.

You being a smartass doesn't work since you know nothing of the medium.

Anyway, clearly the writer's purpose was to write a weaker Superman. He thought of a script and wondered the best way to implement it, and he went "WEAKER SUPERMAN!" Brilliant!

👆

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because you didn't read it, and the only thing you know of it is that it happened in the past.

You being a smartass doesn't work since you know nothing of the medium.

If you disagree with what I said then argue against it (whether I read the medium or not). Everyone here at one point or another has used scans as proof without actually reading the comic. We don't post entire comics as a norm here when we are trying to show evidence. We post the specific feats.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The writer's purpose was to write a weaker Superman and account for his non upgraded form.

So, this is byrne era superman vs mangog?

Or a weaker superman vs mangog and that is why the scan is showed?