Galactus vs Celestials

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Originally posted by lordboo
hi guy
what is know of the weapon?

Its speculation. It rivals the UN

It was used once to contain the essence of Tiamut, the Dreaming Celestial.

That didn't work as Tiamut has returned again. Eternals #6(I post some scans later), Tiamut stated it will take some time for them to get here(other Celestials)

Originally posted by guy222
Again, good points

5th Celestial Host contained the Goblin Force. It had killed Galactus and the PF

Celestials have also embarassed the Odin/Destroyer

Its been said, Galactus' true form is a star. Celestials have the power to destroy stars. Its been said when Galactus dies he becomes a Celestial. I like the comparsion between the two

I will defer to u both. Has Galactus ever used the UN? In the original Galactus arc, he feared it. During the Abraxas storyline, it's apart of him

Celestials have a weapon known as 'The Weapon'

True the goblin force was of great power. However i think that series occurred in an alternate universe in the mutant X comics, with a different Galactus than the one we know.

Originally posted by guy222
Again, good points

5th Celestial Host contained the Goblin Force. It had killed Galactus and the PF

Celestials have also embarassed the Odin/Destroyer

Its been said, Galactus' true form is a star. Celestials have the power to destroy stars. Its been said when Galactus dies he becomes a Celestial. I like the comparsion between the two

I will defer to u both. Has Galactus ever used the UN? In the original Galactus arc, he feared it. During the Abraxas storyline, it's apart of him

Celestials have a weapon known as 'The Weapon'

You make good points too.

Its true that it contained the Goblin Force what one need to remember is that it toke the combined might of the entire Celestial RACE to contain the Goblin Force as the scans clearly illustrate (couldn't find them but can remember it) "There entire Race devastated (celestial) they managed to ...."

A impressive feat but nothing makes me think Galactus couldn't have done the same.

In a sort of way, his energies rages with such a capacity that it even while he is severely weaken forms a star. Galactus has destroyed stars too, most of the origins of the Celestials are mainly done by Kubik and Kosmos I'm personally going with Eternity having created them.

Well strange isn't it that he feared it seeing as how in Tyrant vs Galactus fight Galactus completely drained couldn't disassemple the UN, but during his first encounter with the FF he was only hungry. Also Galactus has shown that he can easily escape the UN.

a group of celestials would murder galactus. tenebrous and aegis did it while the celestials are more than them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
a group of celestials would murder galactus. tenebrous and aegis did it while the celestials are more than them.

that wasn't full-power galactus, or galactus "at his absolute best" as the original poster said.

also, andy schmidt (editor of annihilation) stated that galactus was caught by surprise by tenebrous and aegis, who had prep time. we can also infer that galactus was somewhat weak as they caught him by surprise on a planet...suggesting that galactus was gonna consume it before the battle, only T&A (and thanos) ambushed him before he could.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
that wasn't full-power galactus, or galactus "at his absolute best" as the original poster said.

also, andy schmidt (editor of annihilation) stated that galactus was caught by surprise by tenebrous and aegis, who had prep time. we can also infer that galactus was somewhat weak as they caught him by surprise on a planet...suggesting that galactus was gonna consume it before the battle, only T&A (and thanos) ambushed him before he could.

Correct

Also as mentioned earlier I have given my reason to why I believe that somehow the Proimal Gods and the Celestials are connected and why Galactus would defeat them.

Originally posted by Utrigita
You make good points too.

Its true that it contained the Goblin Force what one need to remember is that it toke the combined might of the entire Celestial RACE to contain the Goblin Force as the scans clearly illustrate (couldn't find them but can remember it) "There entire Race devastated (celestial) they managed to ...."

A impressive feat but nothing makes me think Galactus couldn't have done the same.

In a sort of way, his energies rages with such a capacity that it even while he is severely weaken forms a star. Galactus has destroyed stars too, most of the origins of the Celestials are mainly done by Kubik and Kosmos I'm personally going with Eternity having created them.

Well strange isn't it that he feared it seeing as how in Tyrant vs Galactus fight Galactus completely drained couldn't disassemple the UN, but during his first encounter with the FF he was only hungry. Also Galactus has shown that he can easily escape the UN.

🙂

Originally posted by guy222
Again, good points

5th Celestial Host contained the Goblin Force. It had killed Galactus and the PF

Celestials have also embarassed the Odin/Destroyer

Its been said, Galactus' true form is a star. Celestials have the power to destroy stars. Its been said when Galactus dies he becomes a Celestial. I like the comparsion between the two

I will defer to u both. Has Galactus ever used the UN? In the original Galactus arc, he feared it. During the Abraxas storyline, it's apart of him

Celestials have a weapon known as 'The Weapon'

galactus used it against korvac i believe (or koon or someone with a k) to wipe him out from existence, and from ever having existed. korvac however escaped nullification by getting into a parallel dimension...can't remember exactly.

however, once you are hit with the un, you cannot return, because the UN is like darkseid's omega beams...they erase you from existence, to the effect that you had never existed at all. that's why i think UN>>>>>celestial "weapon"

Originally posted by guy222
5th Celestial Host contained the Goblin Force. It had killed Galactus and the PF

PF was killed ... Galactus was stomped but not killed.

Originally posted by guy222
Its been said, Galactus' true form is a star. Celestials have the power to destroy stars.

Galactus is no ordinary Star though.

On Panel Galactus was depicted as a Star with Infinite Energy.

Originally posted by guy222
Its been said when Galactus dies he becomes a Celestial.

??? (This can't be true)

Galactus "died" on panel and he became a Star that would radiate Energy outward forever.

Originally posted by guy222
Has Galactus ever used the UN? In the original Galactus arc, he feared it. During the Abraxas storyline, it's apart of him

Retcon.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
True the goblin force was of great power. However i think that series occurred in an alternate universe in the mutant X comics, with a different Galactus than the one we know.

Actually that was the original Galactus from 616.

Uatu was re-telling a true story that took place in the early Universe of the 616 Reality.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Its true that it contained the Goblin Force what one need to remember is that it toke the combined might of the entire Celestial RACE to contain the Goblin Force as the scans clearly illustrate (couldn't find them but can remember it) "There entire Race devastated (celestial) they managed to ...."

It only took the 5th Host to contain the Goblin Entity.

It appears the rest of the Race though got stomped.

Also,

the Goblin Force absorbed and added the Phoenix Force's power to it's own before hand.

Originally posted by Utrigita
A impressive feat but nothing makes me think Galactus couldn't have done the same.

Galactus got stomped by the Goblin Entity.

So Galactrus could never had done the same.

Originally posted by Utrigita
In a sort of way, his energies rages with such a capacity that it even while he is severely weaken forms a star. Galactus has destroyed stars too, most of the origins of the Celestials are mainly done by Kubik and Kosmos I'm personally going with Eternity having created them.

Eternity created the Celestials ... I agree.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Also Galactus has shown that he can easily escape the UN.

I'm not too sure.

Galactus escaped the UN once, but he had prep.

Without that prep, Galactus would've been erased.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually that was the original Galactus from 616.

Uatu was re-telling a true story that took place in the early Universe of the 616 Reality.

cool. i should read it soon

Originally posted by guy222
Its speculation. It rivals the UN

I have to disagree guy.

The Weapon is a Celestial killer ... nothing more.

But it wasn't used to kill Taimut.

From Marvel.com:

"A Celestial committed some unknown crime while on Earth, and was punished by having its energies released from its armor, then forced into a deep slumber, buried by its fellow Celestials, where it became known as the “Dreaming Celestial”. The "Weapon" used to disperse the Celestial and its essence are entombed within the Pyramid of the Four Winds"

Galactus eats Hyperspace, as proven against Hyperstorm. So what's stopping him from gorging himself on the entire race?

Originally posted by Mr Master
PF was killed ... Galactus was stomped but not killed.

Galactus is no ordinary Star though.

On Panel Galactus was depicted as a Star with Infinite Energy.

??? (This can't be true)

Galactus "died" on panel and he became a Star that would radiate Energy outward forever.

Retcon.

U know, I love retcons 😄

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have to disagree guy.

The Weapon is a Celestial killer ... nothing more.

But it wasn't used to kill Taimut.

From Marvel.com:

"A Celestial committed some unknown crime while on Earth, and was punished by having its energies released from its armor, then forced into a deep slumber, buried by its fellow Celestials, where it became known as the “Dreaming Celestial”. The "Weapon" used to disperse the Celestial and its essence are entombed within the Pyramid of the Four Winds"

The crime is the killing of another Celestial

Tiamut, the Dreaming Celestial has returned badder than ever. The connection between Makkari and Tiamut will be known in the Eternal series.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Galactus eats Hyperspace, as proven against Hyperstorm. So what's stopping him from gorging himself on the entire race?

Celestials>Galactus 😉

Galactus stalemated Hyperstorm. Hyperstorm hasn't returned

IMO from what I've seen I honestly think celestials>Galactus at full power. And I don't think Galactus at full power=Eternity. I don't care what Uatu says.

Originally posted by Mr Master
It only took the 5th Host to contain the Goblin Entity.

It appears the rest of the Race though got stomped.

Also,

the Goblin Force absorbed and added the Phoenix Force's power to it's own before hand.

Galactus got stomped by the Goblin Entity.

So Galactrus could never had done the same.

Eternity created the Celestials ... I agree.

I'm not too sure.

Galactus escaped the UN once, but he had prep.

Without that prep, Galactus would've been erased.

Which is a credit for Galactus that if it was needed to take him down then the Fifth Celestial host would be needed since all the others got stomped by the Force and we doesn't know how many Celestials the fifth host consisted of in that incident.

Also they managed to contain it correct??? that doesn't make them more powerful then the Goblin Force Galactus Has contained the Phoenix Force on one occasion but still he has lost a battle against it.

We didn't know If he got stomped, we Know he lost but there are a lot of facts about the fight that we doesn't know of.

Good, and the Celestials are a sort of Proimal Gods ore offspring of one of them.

Prep??? Morg fired the UN at Tyrant and Galactus how much prep could he possibly have??? Korvac have also escaped the exact same way by going into a parallel Dimension.

Originally posted by h1a8
IMO from what I've seen I honestly think celestials>Galactus at full power. And I don't think Galactus at full power=Eternity. I don't care what Uatu says.

You realise that Uatu when he is being used are normally speaking to the reader ore for the writer???