Originally posted by NemeBroOh didn't you know things like a sun is greater than galaxy destroying energy and the earth is greater than solar system destroying energy?
3. The blast did not just not destroy the sun. It evaporated in the sun, if it were concetrated energy capable of destroying a galaxy if fully unleashed, it would not have evaporated.. Yet... It overpowered the blast of a galaxy destroyer? It doesn't add up sir.
And the villians in DBZ always tell the truth So even when they're wrong about their claims they're still telling the truth, always.
[/sarcasm] If you respond to me like I literally meant what I said then you must not have seen this when you quoted me.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
YouTube videoStill no votes for Elite Meta?
Archimonde has with physical force snapped the neck of a titanic figure, as such was the finish in the battle against Malorne. He withstood a horned headbutt brutal enough to quake an entire landscape and send tens of thousands of soldiers of their feet with something as little as a dent in his skin as result.
When Archimonde engaged a blue dragon in combat, it lasted for as long as it took Archimonde to lift his hand. With a simple gesture did Archimonde not only slay, but flay the dragon. Skin it by ripping each of its scales from its body and crush its body as a conclusion.
The one time Archimonde was overwhelmed in combat, he retreated with a simple thought, vanishing into thin air in a burst of flames. It was revealed that he teleported to his base of command, a location hours of marching away.
When Archimonde raze Dalaran, he is actually doing more than simply destroying the city. He is bypassing a magical barrier set up by the mages of the Kirin Tor and Medivh himself, a powerful prophet whom we have record of having blocked the spirit of Sargeras himself with a simple ward.
But this isn't giving Archimonde justice. The greatest height Archimonde has taken, is that of a mountain. It was never specified if it was a large mountain or a small one, but he was the size of a mountain. He has for a brief period of time endured the combined power of Nature itself, a power potent enough to cut Sargeras.
The spell used by Archimonde in the video here is actually known as a "Paramount". Archimonde has mastered this technique as one of the most prominent members of the Eredar community. A previous notable time where a Paramount spell has been used, was the shattering of Draenor. To WoW players, this is known as Outlands- a planet destroyed by the prominent Ner'Zhul, an act that condemned the inhabitants of Draenor to live on floating remnants of a planet. Mere islands in space.
In addition to him razing Dalaran, Archimonde also razed an elven city with a single gesture merely because it was in the way of his onrush up Mount Hyjal.
Hm, looking back to the first page, Solusandra (from Crossgen) is currently listed as Trans. That is too low for her. She created the First, herald levelers (or in the weakest cases, maybe high meta, but probably hundreds of herald levelers minimum, quite a few of whom were mid-herald and a couple highs, and thousands of First of any level in total), the leader of those who was in turn Trans, and was personally capable of wading through dozens and dozens of them casually even in a significantly reduced state.
The Transitioned in Crossgen, that is Solusandra, Danik, Charon, and Appolyon (who's also listed wrongly as Trans), were really well into the Skyfather level, and possibly even above that. Herald levelers were far below them. Individual avatars of the Transition were Trans level.
Originally posted by carver9Holy shit bro.
Again your points are moot. Another example... Odin, Odin has feats of destroying a galaxy but he was trying to drop Thanos with almost everything he had but the blast that he was shooting didnt even create a dent in the ground. PLOTSuperman has mountain crushing strength along with Darkseid but yet during his and Darkseid fight, Superman was going all out (during the time he flew him in the source wall) in a barn and with ALL of that strength that they have, the barn was still in tact. They did no damage at all to the barn when we know for a fact that the after shocks from an all out Supeman and Darkseid fight should level a barn with one punch.
Then we have Hulk punching Captain America and this is the same hulk that has lifted mountains with ease and has on panel showings of lifting infinite mass but people like Spiderman, Wolverine, Captain America, hell, STORM has survived direct punches from an enraged hulk. Do you want to know why PLOT but using your down play of characters, since hulk was unable to even cause physical damage to these people with one punch then I guess he is a 2 tonner.
Superman was in a rage during he time he was pouring down that heat vision, he wasnt worried about CONTROL.
Your arguments are boo boo and you try to use plot to bring down a character.
Its true, Broly is a Galaxy buster but he isnt the most powerful. Just because Goku doesnt go around busting Galaxies doesnt mean that he cant do it. Broly just got over powered and that alone should tell you how powerful they are. Goku has as of yet to bust a planet open but I am quite sure that he can do it since, well, he over powered people that has on panel showing of busting planets apart. I also think Goku could bust a Galaxy but I cant prove it because, well, Goku is a hero but just by looking at the movies that you tend to down play,Goku over powered a Galaxy buster and also looking at the movies, Goku fought h2h with a Universal level threat and held his own (Janemba). I know these things arent cannon but it gives me a indication on how Goku is portrayed and how powerful he is.
Now again, stop trying to down play characters due o plot because plot falls in categories for some of the most powerul people in Marvel and DC. I can use it against Surfer all the way up to Galactus.
I actually highlighted where you missed my point to help you out, YET YOU CONTINUE TO MISS IT.
What "plot" prevented the Kamehamehas from going through the sun all the way? That would not have destroyed the sun, yet the blasts evaporated within it.
Actually, if Broly IS a galaxy buster, according to feats he is far and away the most powerful DBZ character ever. 🙂 Good thing he is not canon.
Actually no one in the manga ever busting a galaxy is the reason why we should not assume Goku can bust a galaxy. Because you know, that is logical.
Of course Goku could bust a planet. If I had to put out an estimate for how large a planet he could bust, I would say at least a solid, Jupiter sized planet. But not even a solar system could he destroy.
Janemba a universal threat?
I really gotta ask man, where was this actually shown? Sure, he took over the afterlife, but that does not equate to him being a universal threat.
Though Janemba and Broly have something in common. They're not canon, and as such should not be used to support canon DBZ characters.
Originally posted by CreshoskYou forget man, Freeza can destroy the universe in a single blast because King Kai said Freeza was a threat to the universe!
Oh didn't you know things like a sun is greater than galaxy destroying energy and the earth is greater than solar system destroying energy?And the villians in DBZ always tell the truth So even when they're wrong about their claims they're still telling the truth, always.
[/sarcasm] If you respond to me like I literally meant what I said then you must not have seen this when you quoted me.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Archimonde has with physical force snapped the neck of a titanic figure, as such was the finish in the battle against Malorne. He withstood a horned headbutt brutal enough to quake an entire landscape and send tens of thousands of soldiers of their feet with something as little as a dent in his skin as result.When Archimonde engaged a blue dragon in combat, it lasted for as long as it took Archimonde to lift his hand. With a simple gesture did Archimonde not only slay, but flay the dragon. Skin it by ripping each of its scales from its body and crush its body as a conclusion.
The one time Archimonde was overwhelmed in combat, he retreated with a simple thought, vanishing into thin air in a burst of flames. It was revealed that he teleported to his base of command, a location hours of marching away.
When Archimonde raze Dalaran, he is actually doing more than simply destroying the city. He is bypassing a magical barrier set up by the mages of the Kirin Tor and Medivh himself, a powerful prophet whom we have record of having blocked the spirit of Sargeras himself with a simple ward.
But this isn't giving Archimonde justice. The greatest height Archimonde has taken, is that of a mountain. It was never specified if it was a large mountain or a small one, but he was the size of a mountain. He has for a brief period of time endured the combined power of Nature itself, a power potent enough to cut Sargeras.
The spell used by Archimonde in the video here is actually known as a "Paramount". Archimonde has mastered this technique as one of the most prominent members of the Eredar community. A previous notable time where a Paramount spell has been used, was the shattering of Draenor. To WoW players, this is known as Outlands- a planet destroyed by the prominent Ner'Zhul, an act that condemned the inhabitants of Draenor to live on floating remnants of a planet. Mere islands in space.
In addition to him razing Dalaran, Archimonde also razed an elven city with a single gesture merely because it was in the way of his onrush up Mount Hyjal.
Also I think I should point out that Outland was created by Nerzhul opening too many portals and a Cowboy-Bebop-esque cataclysm that followed suit. I don't recall any mention of a "Paramount" spell causing the destruction.
Originally posted by XanatosForever
I nominate Samurai Jack for Elite Street.
Add the fact that his sword can cut through virtually anything and there's no question he's above Elite Street.
Originally posted by XanatosForeverHe's much higher than that.
I nominate Samurai Jack for Elite Street.
Able to jump hundreds of feet with 10+ ton boulders, could lift himself from under a 600 ton sumo, can effortlessly block gatling gun fire with one hand on his sword, can kill a group of mercs before some water could hit the floor while falling from only 3 feet, and even survived atmospheric re-entry.
Then there is his sword.
Jack is at least Mid Meta IMO, actually, considering that he fights Aku, probably more like High.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He's higher than Elite street.
Originally posted by NemeBro
He's much higher than that.Able to jump hundreds of feet with 10+ ton boulders, could lift himself from under a 600 ton sumo, can effortlessly block gatling gun fire with one hand on his sword, can kill a group of mercs before some water could hit the floor while falling from only 3 feet, and even survived atmospheric re-entry.
Then there is his sword.
Jack is at least Mid Meta IMO, actually, considering that he fights Aku, probably more like High.
I know I'm not the smartest in the bunch, but was the double mentioning I was wrong when Omega Vision pointed out my mistakes really necessary, or were you guys just being facetious? 😐