Ideon for Transcendent or Skyfather:
From Wikipedia:
The Ideon is portrayed as perhaps the most powerful giant robot in all anime, and possibly one of the most destructive devices in all media in terms of raw destructive power. Although it is at first, a rather humble weapon in comparison to other mecha, brandishing only an array of missiles and cannons as well as limited melee and defensive shields, this changes gradually as the series progresses and the protagonists delve further into the Ideons' secrets. The great mech's overall performance increases to incredible heights of speed, durability, and power; even its most basic weapons increase their potency dramatically such as the cinematic "All Missiles" attack where all of the Ideon's now Ide powered missiles are launched all at once at great speeds destroying literally fleets of ships in one attack. Without a doubt, Ideon's destructive power reaches godlike status when three distinct weapons are discovered.
Black Hole Cannon, which as the name implies, creates a miniature black hole capable of massive destruction. While devastating, this is only the tip of the iceberg as this is Ideon's least powerful super weapon.
Discovered next is the Ideon's powerful Ideon Sword, a beam of pure light emitted from each of Ideon's hands. While the beam's destructive power is immense, its most peculiar quality is its length. While adjustable, the maximum length of the sword is depicted as being quite possibly infinite.
However, none of the Ideon's weapons can compare to the awesome destructive power of the infamous Ideon Gun, infamous due to the distinction of being quite possibly one of the most devastating attacks in anime history. A massive blue cannon constructed during the Solo Ship's brief stay on a moon base based off of plans uncovered on the ship, the Gun is directly powered by the Ideon's Ide energy to produce an enormous white wave of energy which destroys literally anything in its path in a forty five-degree angle, including starships, planets, and even galaxies. This cannon's initial use is so awesome, that it is treated as almost a bittersweet moment as the crew of both the Ideon and the Solo Ship truly begin to realize the frightening power they've uncovered.
Dragonball Z Anime is above all Anime (barring Gods)!
You have characters who can casually Shatter planets!, Shatter "Enitre" Solar Systems!, Kid Buu destroyed an Entire Galaxy!, Super Buu Ripped Holes through Dimsensions, and then you have Super Buu 3 who has the power to destroy the universe!
Guyver (Bio-booster armor)Should be next.
Z doesn't belong at sky father, he is more herald level.
Your personal wank fantasies don't belong in this thread, phenomentroll.
No one in DBZ canon ever destroyed more than a planet. Cell claimed he could destroy a solar system but never backed it up, and he's known to bluff. The resulting crater was only a few hundred meters across. Buu never destroyed any galaxies, the canon manga states that he only destroyed several hundred planets over a period of a few years. In fact he had to be put in a ball by Bibidi to transport himself to each new planet. Super Buu and Gotenks simply travelled between dimensions, that's not a feat of power. Someone made a claim that Buu could destroy the universe in a non - canon filler episode, but that was never substantiated (in addition to not being canon).
Z is far above Skyfather, he was a threat to the entire universe and Tokimi couldn't destroy him without shattering the third dimension.
Originally posted by Phenomenol
Dragonball Z Anime is above all Anime (barring Gods)!You have characters who can casually Shatter planets!, Shatter "Enitre" Solar Systems!, Kid Buu destroyed an Entire Galaxy!, Super Buu Ripped Holes through Dimsensions, and then you have Super Buu 3 who has the power to destroy the universe!
[B]Guyver
(Bio-booster armor)Should be next.Z doesn't belong at sky father, he is more herald level. [/B]
Feats!
Video showing Freeza destroying a planet with his FINGER!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fPELlQskcVM&mode=related&search=
Cell's "ENTIRE" Solar System busting Kamehameha battle (battle being felt lightyears away)!
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Cell%20powa.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4wxWR6rLK4
http://www.youtube.com/watchv=oX9CqQOEyYw&mode=related&search=
Super Buu ripping a hole through a dimension!!
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Buubreath0.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/BuuBreath1.gif
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/29/41941/Buubreath.gif
Kid Buu destroying a Galaxy! Episode 219 (Original Japanese)!
Super Buu Three showing the power to shatter "The universe! (Sorry for the crap dub)!
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/vegito-vs-super-buufull-fight-no-fillerpt5/2697536119
(Note: Vegetto was EASILY more powerful than Super Buu a universe destroyer)!
I will post more later!
1. Non - canon, never in the manga.
2. That was only a claim. He never actually destroyed it. The result was only this small crater: http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6696/cellsolarsystembluff6wj4.gif
3. Non - canon filler episode (also it was a time - lapse flashback). Here is the canon manga scan:
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1534/suckitphenomenolvj5.gif
4. Another non - canon filler episode. Most of that entire fight was filler.
If you have to resort to non - canon material then we could use What Ifs? or Elseworlds or Marvel/DC crossovers in debates and it would lead to a bunch of inconsistent crap and a huge mess.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Your personal wank fantasies don't belong in this thread, phenomentroll.No one in DBZ canon ever destroyed more than a planet. Cell claimed he could destroy a solar system but never backed it up, and he's known to bluff. The resulting crater was only a few hundred meters across. Buu never destroyed any galaxies, the canon manga states that he only destroyed several hundred planets over a period of a few years. In fact he had to be put in a ball by Bibidi to transport himself to each new planet. Super Buu and Gotenks simply travelled between dimensions, that's not a feat of power. Someone made a claim that Buu could destroy the universe in a non - canon filler episode, but that was never substantiated (in addition to not being canon).
Z is far above Skyfather, he was a threat to the entire universe and Tokimi couldn't destroy him without shattering the third dimension.
Q: What does the Z in Dragonball Z stand for? (Most of us know that the Z was only used in the anime and it was just an index to separate Goku as a kid and Goku as an adult. But check out the response from Toriyama-san).A: I was starting to run out of things for Dragonball and I really wanted to finish the series. So I thought that if I put a Z at the end of Dragonball, people would think that it was going to end soon!
Q: How would you position the Dragon Ball Z anime (TV series)?
A:I consider the TV animation to be in "one dimension" with the Manga. I have what I call Canon, which is the TV series and the original, printed comic edition works that are directly tied into continuity.
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t1002520-akira-toriyama-interviews/
@Akuki: Z hasn't done anything but shoot a DOZEN of blasts that couldn't destroy earth and He destroyed part of the moon! Nothing more. And no, the clash between the gods didn't touch him He is NOWHERE near DBZ's level of power!!!. You are heavily overrating Z and Tenchi Muyo.
You're a complete troll. The anime is not canon because it was not written by Toriyama, and in many cases it directly contradicts what he wrote in the manga. Not to mention your "interviews" are just posts someone made on a message board.
And what do you mean it didn't touch Z? It destroyed a large part of the entire galaxy, with him at the epicenter. He destroyed an entire galaxy police fleet with one attack (and their ships can easily one - shot planets). Z wasn't even trying to destroy the entire earth, he was just trying to get Tenchi's attention. In fact he threatened to destroy the entire universe in order to kill Tenchi. His Light Hawk Wings will reduce all enemy attacks and defenses to 0 on all time and dimensional vectors and can only be overcome by extremely powerful reality warping attacks like the Chousein, Counter-Actor, or Kami Tenchi.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
You're a complete troll. The anime is not canon because it was not written by Toriyama, and in many cases it directly contradicts what he wrote in the manga. Not to mention your "interviews" are just posts someone made on a message board.And what do you mean it didn't touch Z? It destroyed a large part of the entire galaxy, with him at the epicenter. He destroyed an entire galaxy police fleet with one attack (and their ships can easily one - shot planets). Z wasn't even trying to destroy the entire earth, he was just trying to get Tenchi's attention. In fact he threatened to destroy the entire universe in order to kill Tenchi. His Light Hawk Wings will reduce all enemy attacks and defenses to 0 on all time and dimensional vectors and can only be overcome by extremely powerful reality warping attacks like the Chousein, Counter-Actor, or Kami Tenchi.
Nah, one who ignores facts is a troll, and that is you!Anime is stated to be canon by Akira Toriyama!!! deal with it.
Akira Toriyama > Your opinions.
No, Z hasn't shown anything, he had to shoot dozens of blast to damage the earth that much?? He only destroyed part of the moon? Master Roshi could VAPORIZE the moon!! Z can't compare!
Concerning LHW, they do not multiply attacks by Zero that is your fanfiction theory!
14. About the secret of Ko-oh-yoku (Wings of hawk of light?).Answer:
It is a manifestation of God's aura.More details ...
Ko-oh-yoku is a manifestation of God's aura and not a weapon. Although apart from Tsunami, one Tree can produce only three Ko-oh-yoku, they are enough to protect the entire ship. Ko-oh-yoku does not shut the incoming energy out but converts it to harmless one (one power exists that could pierce them but it requires huge amount of energy and a very big system).
http://www.rolfotto.com/101_FACTS/TENCHI_101_FACTS.html
Where do the royal trees get their power?
All of the royal trees obtain their power via subspace from the original tree Tsunami, which contains all of Tsunami's Choushin powers. Tsunami's tree offspring are known as 1st-generation trees. The 1st-generation tree's offspring are known as 2nd-generation trees. 2nd-generation trees produce 3rd-generation trees and 3rd-generation tree's produce 4th-generation trees. I have no information of tree's beyond the 4th generation. 1st- and 2nd-generation trees have the ability to generate Light Hawk Wings, a manifestation of the Choushin power which are used primarily for defense. 3rd- and 4th-generation trees cannot produce Light Hawk Wings on their own, but can combine their powers to produce them.
How powerful are the royal trees and Jurai powers in general? What are the greatest feats of power?A single 4th- or 5th-generation ship is more than a match for any vessel that any other space-faring nation can build. 6th- and 7th-generation Royal Trees can power a colony by themselves. It takes a big power supply equal to that of a star to overwhelm a light-hawk wing .
Originally posted by Phenomenol
Nah, one who ignores facts is a troll, and that is you!Anime is stated to be canon by Akira Toriyama!!! deal with it.Akira Toriyama > Your opinions.
No, Z hasn't shown anything, he had to shoot dozens of blast to damage the earth that much?? He only destroyed part of the moon? Master Roshi could VAPORIZE the moon!! Z can't compare!
Concerning LHW, they do not multiply attacks by Zero that is your fanfiction theory!
http://www.rolfotto.com/101_FACTS/TENCHI_101_FACTS.html
Where do the royal trees get their power?
All of the royal trees obtain their power via subspace from the original tree Tsunami, which contains all of Tsunami's Choushin powers. Tsunami's tree offspring are known as 1st-generation trees. The 1st-generation tree's offspring are known as 2nd-generation trees. 2nd-generation trees produce 3rd-generation trees and 3rd-generation tree's produce 4th-generation trees. I have no information of tree's beyond the 4th generation. 1st- and 2nd-generation trees have the ability to generate Light Hawk Wings, a manifestation of the Choushin power which are used primarily for defense. 3rd- and 4th-generation trees cannot produce Light Hawk Wings on their own, but can combine their powers to produce them.
For the last time, that's a non - canon fan site. Direct energy/brute force cannot overcome LHWs. Tenchi's LHWs activated past the event horizon of a black hole (where the gravity and pressure are infinite) and he neutralized the black hole's gravity and escaped.
