Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

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Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Kenshiro from Fist of The North Star manga/anime should be put to the low meta.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenshiro


I think I could agree with that.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Not really your Theory is fanmade!!, In the Third True Novel, "Washu," in which Washu and Naja Akara study an perplexing event in which a group of space pirates destroyed a royal ship using a Dyson Sphere type weapon. The Sphere contained within it a star, and used that star to power the weapon used to destroy the royal ship, that is canon. Counterreactor was never mentioned at all.

Reread it. Washu was analyzing it and she detected a strange line of power from another dimension that was only visible to her (due to her Chousein nature), she was unfamiliar with it but it was implied to be the Counter-Actor. Also it only destroyed the sub - Light Hawk Wing, it was not the real LHWs (they were not activated).

No, you said that LHW multiplies attacks by Zero and the Author states different. YOUR theories are fanfiction! Not too mention he said that a huge power is need to peirce them which was laready shown in the third novel.

That was not even the real Light Hawk Wings, that was the sub - Light Hawk Wing. You continually ignore this point.

No!! You simply said LHW multiplies attacks by zero which is false. You wer proven wrong by the author and canon! I showed you Tenchi STRUGGLING with SIX LHW to block a sing planet balst! Z doesn't have Six, so he dimjply dies.

I've already gone over this. He was "struggling" because he had never summoned that many before, and it takes exponentially more energy to summon more (8 times as much as he had ever used before). He couldn't handle that much power at that point since his powers were just developing. It was not the Chobimaru's attack since it never even hit him, it was neutralized before it even touched him.

Originally posted by Phenomenol
[B]And Akauki? NOTHING shows Z or Tenchi taking anything considering Z's LHW were gone! I can't believe you take Tenchi Muyo serious, You need to stop.

3 of them were gone. He had 2 left. Still it would take universe destroying power to kill him.

Also Z wasn't even serious when he was attacking the Earth and the moon, he was just trying to get Tenchi's attention. If you want an example of a serious attack, look when he completely destroyed the massive Galaxy Police fleet or Tokimi's fleet.

Not to mention that he didn't just blow up a part of the moon, he removed it from existence. Literally, one instant it was there, and the next it wasn't. Show me a DBZ character that can do that.

That was a great post Phenom!

Archanfel, belongs at the top also.

Reread it. Washu was analyzing it and she detected a strange line of power from another dimension that was only visible to her (due to her Chousein nature), she was unfamiliar with it but it was implied to be the Counter-Actor. Also it only destroyed the sub - Light Hawk Wing, it was not the real LHWs (they were not activated).

Another theory by you, Counter-Actor was never hinted at all. This is my lat time bringing canon to you.

I've already gone over this. He was "struggling" because he had never summoned that many before, and it takes exponentially more energy to summon more (8 times as much as he had ever used before). He couldn't handle that much power at that point since his powers were just developing. It was not the Chobimaru's attack since it never even hit him, it was neutralized before it even touched him.

Wrong, Tenchi DIED by the planet destroying blast using SIX!!
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1159137e99BZxDK?searchId=1479555700666506349&rank=0

3 of them were gone. He had 2 left. Still it would take universe destroying power to kill him .

Incorrect! Z states Tokimi can't use her power in this dimension because if she did she would destroy "this worldt." Not a damn universe.
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v11591213ZKHZteN?searchId=4970048713632637496&rank=0

Also Z wasn't even serious when he was attacking the Earth and the moon, he was just trying to get Tenchi's attention. If you want an example of a serious attack, look when he completely destroyed the massive Galaxy Police fleet or Tokimi's fleet.

Not to mention that he didn't just blow up a part of the moon, he removed it from existence. Literally, one instant it was there, and the next it wasn't. Show me a DBZ character that can do that

Look again.....

VAPORIZED REMOVED from EXISTENCE!!!!!!!!!

Buu CASUALLY VAPORIZING ALL OF EARTH!!

VAPORIZED!

Power like that could destroy earth!

DBZ > Tenchi Muyo!

Next...

LOL at the guy who said DBZ Chars cant bust the Moon, he must Hate DBZ or never seen it.

Them scans where on the last page, why would he ask for them again?

I smell trolling!

Not to mention that he didn't just blow up a part of the moon,

The Clip & Pic that was posted shows that it was just part of the moon.

STOP TROLLING!

Originally posted by WHITEBEARD
That was a great post Phenom!

Archanfel, belongs at the top also.

Praising yourself with sockpuppets is pretty pathetic.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Praising yourself with sockpuppets is pretty pathetic.

LOL, Im over at the NF, You know who I am.

STOP TROLLING!

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Another theory by you, Counter-Actor was never hinted at all. This is my lat time bringing canon to you.

Wrong. Actually read the novel.

The base of the Shank guild discovered by the Jurai fleet had a scale same as one nation. Food, daily stuffs, and what more, a planet class battle ship were manufactured at that plant and it was easy to suspect that it was an very important way stationary base. This might be the reason why they obstinately attacked planet "Kanemitsu".
The Jurai fleet was defeating the Shanks and when they destroyed half of the institution, it happened.
A mega-size battle ship hundred and dozens times larger than the planet class ship "Sheaplis" appeared to power up. This ship seemed to be a very peculiar one and most of its structure was an energy generator. Enormous power equal to a whole star was laid inside and suddenly this energy was blasted to the Royal ship.
'...But that's strange. Considering the power generated inside the ship, this blaster can't be so small..' marveled Washu reading the data which was measured.
This was true. The energy of the blaster was several thousand times smaller than that generated in the power generator. Though it was also true that even though all the energy was blasted toward the Royal ship it wasn't able to destroy it. This Royal ship was one of the third-generation ships and the blaster should not have been possible to penetrate the sub-Light Hawk Wing, which is not materialized.
'But the Royal ship was destroyed.'
To Naja's words, Washu nodded. The report continued that having the Royal ship destroyed, the fleet got a counterblow by the Shanks but finally defeated the super battle ship and the base by exchange of losing 80 percent of their fleet.
'I see, so Professor Ikuma was asked to research this data,' said Naja and reached over Washu and opened the data files of the destroyed Royal ship.
'...Oh?'
Washu noticed that there was strange line of energy in the picture of which the moment when the energy blast just reached the Royal ship was taken.
'What? I can't see it,' said Naja.
'That can't be true. Over here,' said Washu and pointed the lines of lights shown on the monitor.
'You say so, but I can't see a thing.'
'But, that can't be true.'
Washu checked all the data but indeed no data reported such light.
'Washu-chan, can you really see it?' asked Naja.
'Yes, I do.' Washu only could nod to Naja's words. It was the fact.
'Nothing shown in the data but only Washu-chan can see it. But it is interesting that the Light Hawk Wings have similar characteristics. No doubt that when the ship was attacked it was spreading the sub-LHW. However, it was destroyed.'
'What happens when two LHWs hits each other?'
'There is no record for such experiment... but probably the reason why the Royal ship was destroyed lies there.'

But their discussion ended there. It was a large problem if what there are doing is known, and it was not allowed even for the student of philosophy to concern with the top secret of Jurai, the Royal Tree.

Stop lying.

Wrong, Tenchi DIED by the planet destroying blast using SIX!!
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1159137e99BZxDK?searchId=1479555700666506349&rank=0

He didn't die, he was merely sent to the hyperdimension. And it wasn't due to the Chobimaru's blast (which never even hit him), it was due to the strain of summoning 6 LHWs, which he had never done before.

Incorrect! Z states Tokimi can't use her power in this dimension because if she did she would destroy "this worldt." Not a damn universe.
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v11591213ZKHZteN?searchId=4970048713632637496&rank=0

The proper translation is "the third dimension" which means the universe. You do realize that they weren't even on a world when he said that? 🙄

Look again.....

VAPORIZED REMOVED from EXISTENCE!!!!!!!!!

No, vaporized = turned into vapor. I can do that in my kitchen.

Buu CASUALLY VAPORIZING ALL OF EARTH!!

*snip*

Which is far less impressive than [b]removing it completely from existence.

VAPORIZED!

*snip*

Power like that could destroy earth!

It takes 1800 times more power to destroy the earth than it does to destroy the moon, using conventional energy transfer. But if you can simply remove matter and energy from existence, such limits don't exist.

Also, would you mind simply linking to your images, instead of posting them and stretching the page all the time? It's annoying.

DBZ > Tenchi Muyo!

Next... [/B]

LOL. Care to explain how any DBZ character could deal with multiversal creating / destroying power?

Originally posted by WHITEBEARD
LOL at the guy who said DBZ Chars cant bust the Moon, he must Hate DBZ or never seen it.

Them scans where on the last page, why would he ask for them again?

I smell trolling!

When did I ever say that? When did anyone ever say that? Stop using strawman arguments.

The Clip & Pic that was posted shows that it was just part of the moon.

STOP TROLLING!

Did you even read the rest of my post?

He removed it from existence. As in he made it simply disappear from time and space. And he had the power to restore it as well.

Originally posted by WHITEBEARD
LOL, Im over at the NF, You know who I am.

STOP TROLLING!

I know you're a phenomentroll alt. You have the exact same debating style as he does, exact same posting style, exact same opinions, use the exact same logical fallacies, exact same insults and accusations, etc.

Either you're him or someone who's trying to imitate him.

And you accusing me of trolling is hilarious when I'm the one backing up my claims with evidence when you're using broken - record tactics and logical fallacies.

Wrong. Actually read the novel.Stop lying.

Here's you....

she was unfamiliar with it but it was implied to be the Counter-Actor

NO COUNTER-ACTOR was ever mentioned! 🙄

He didn't die, he was merely sent to the hyperdimension. And it wasn't due to the Chobimaru's blast (which never even hit him), it was due to the strain of summoning 6 LHWs, which he had never done before

Wrong Tenchi Died and went back to the nexus of space and time just like when Z killed him by cutting in half. Tenchi was overcome with Six LHW!!! by a planet destroying attack. You never watched the entire series I see...
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v11591213ZKHZteN?searchId=4970048713632637496&rank=0
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1159137e99BZxDK?searchId=1479555700666506349&rank=0

The proper translation is "the third dimension" which means the universe. You do realize that they weren't even on a world when he said that?

She was on SATURN look at it again. Wrong! The fact is the only reason why tokimi didn't use her powers is because she could destroy it and Z KNEW THAT SHE WOULD NOT RESULT TO THAT.; Not the lie you made up that "it takes Universe destroying power to kill Z," LOL!

No, vaporized = turned into vapor. I can do that in my kitchen.
Which is far less impressive than removing it completely from existence.
*snipIt takes 1800 times more power to destroy the earth than it does to destroy the moon, using conventional energy transfer. But if you can simply remove matter and energy from existence, such limits don't exist.
Also, would you mind simply linking to your images, instead of posting them and stretching the page all the time? It's annoying.

Z never removed the moon from existence. 🙄

This is removed from existence....

LOL. Care to explain how any DBZ character could deal with multiversal creating / destroying power?

Z doesn't do any of that. 🙄

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I know you're a phenomentroll alt. You have the exact same debating style as he does, exact same posting style, exact same opinions, use the exact same logical fallacies, exact same insults and accusations, etc.

Either you're him or someone who's trying to imitate him.

And you accusing me of trolling is hilarious when I'm the one backing up my claims with evidence when you're using broken - record tactics and logical fallacies.

LOL, Opinions? same debating style? insults? LOL! Just cuz Phenom like Guyver, "hey he must be whitebeard!"

If that was true I would be banned from NF & the KMC forum.

LOL, Im not accusing, you are trolling!

So please........STOP trolling!

I have to say from reading you're guys posts you do sound exactly alike.

I know Phenom, but im not Phenom, Mike knows this, he tried to get me banned over at the NF, saying Im Phenom's dupe.

I told the him to PM a mod about it & they will let you know.

you guys can do the same here.

Edit: Mike even think Sarutobi700 is phenom. LOL

Dio Brando for mid-high meta.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Dio Brando for mid-high meta.

He might make high meta. His extreme strength and reflexs in combination with his time stop abilities make a pretty dangerous combination. Plus he has an amazing regeneration ability.

What class strength would you say he is, both on his own, and with Za Warudo?

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Here's you....

NO COUNTER-ACTOR was ever mentioned!

Read it again. It was stated to be a power similar to a Light Hawk Wing, but not a Light Hawk Wing. It was directly stated that it was [b]NOT the power of the star in the ship that was responsible for it. The only other power that fits that description is the Counter-Actor.

Wrong Tenchi Died and went back to the nexus of space and time just like when Z killed him by cutting in half. Tenchi was overcome with Six LHW!!! by a planet destroying attack. You never watched the entire series I see...

Stop lying. He didn't die, he was absolutely fine right afterwards in the conference. If he had died, Kami Tenchi would have been released and started tearing apart the multiverse again like in episode 19. The blast never even hit him, it was neutralized long before it did. Tenchi escaped a black hole with only 3 Light Hawk Wings in episode 11, and a black hole >>>>>>>>>>>> the Chobimaru's attack. He was sent to the hyperdimension due to the overload of using more energy than he ever had before to summon 6 LHWs.

She was on SATURN look at it again.

They were in space. Saturn was in the background.

Wrong! The fact is the only reason why tokimi didn't use her powers is because she could destroy it and Z KNEW THAT SHE WOULD NOT RESULT TO THAT.; Not the lie you made up that "it takes Universe destroying power to kill Z," LOL!

Which is the truth. The correct translation is "shatter the third dimension".

Z never removed the moon from existence.
*snip*

Yes, look:

One instant it's there, the next it's not. It doesn't explode, or vaporize, or break apart, it simply disappears.

This is removed from existence....

No, that's simply destruction, as in blowing them apart. Far less impressive than removing them from time and space. Z did far more than that when he destroyed the Galaxy Police fleet and Tokimi's devices (which were powerful enough to devastate multiversal powers). Z can not only destroy moons and planets, but restore them to their previous state.

Z doesn't do any of that. [/B]

Show me a DBZ character:

- Removing matter from existence (as in literally, making it simply disappear)
- Flying hundreds of times lightspeed
- Moving between universes under their own power (not dimensions)
- Restoring destroyed planets/moons to their original state (the dragon doesn't count)
- Neutralizing hundreds of planet - destroying attacks simultaneously
- Transforming into light and then back

Hell, in Dual Parallel Trouble Adventure (which is in - continuity with the Tenchi Muyo universe), Zinv merged two universes together with only 2 Light Hawk Wings!