Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Started by Dum Dum Dugan307 pages

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Mace for high meta too.Possibly elite but more likely high.

Most jedi are elite meta but obviously people like mace and vader and palpatine are higher then normal.Thus high.

Thing is vader shouldent be at palp or maces level, he get shit stomp by them. He had the potential but he never reach it. He not really much over obi-wan.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's pretty much inconsequential. Battle matchups don't determine placement in this thread. Its about raw power, versatility, scope, and overall threat level. There's a guy from the Anime/Manga Yu Yu Hakusho who's name I can't remember. He could completely paralyze a person simply by stepping on their shadow. He had a friend with the power to make certain letters or words taboo, meaning that if you uttered a taboo word, letter, or phrase you'd lose your soul (an auto OHKO). Both of those guys could conceivably compete on the Herald level but they're not even close to Herald because they lack the raw power.

Mace is either Mid or High Meta.

High.Most jedi are mid meta but mace is better then most jedi.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
High.Most jedi are mid meta but mace is better then most jedi.

a lot better, he also had I believe the highest count untill anikin

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's pretty much inconsequential. Battle matchups don't determine placement in this thread. Its about raw power, versatility, scope, and overall threat level. There's a guy from the Anime/Manga Yu Yu Hakusho who's name I can't remember. He could completely paralyze a person simply by stepping on their shadow. He had a friend with the power to make certain letters or words taboo, meaning that if you uttered a taboo word, letter, or phrase you'd lose your soul (an auto OHKO). Both of those guys could conceivably compete on the Herald level but they're not even close to Herald because they lack the raw power.


no they couldent, ive watched and read both and they were not even closes to that level.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
High.Most jedi are mid meta but mace is better then most jedi.

Most Jedi are at the low end of Low Meta or the high end of Elite Street IMO.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
a lot better, he also had I believe the highest count untill anikin
Well anikan was conceived of midiclorians.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
no they couldent, ive watched and read both and they were not even closes to that level.

It doesn't matter. My point is that certain characters have specific Haxx powers that allow them to punch out of their weight class.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
a lot better, he also had I believe the highest count untill anikin

I'm almost certain it was Yoda. When they discovered Anakin's count they didn't say "that's even higher than Mace Windu's!" They said "even higher than Master Yoda's."

Mace might have been the best duelist but Yoda was the strongest in the Force.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Most Jedi are at the low end of Low Meta or the high end of Elite Street IMO.

Mace would rape any street with eases and everyone in low meta. as would palp or yoda........hell even vader........

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It doesn't matter. My point is that certain characters have specific Haxx powers that allow them to punch out of their weight class.

I'm almost certain it was Yoda. When they discovered Anakin's count they didn't say "that's even higher than Mace Windu's!" They said "even higher than Master Yoda's."

Example: Absorbing man tangling with thor.Get his hammer and low herald can tangle with high herald.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Mace would rape any street with eases and everyone in low meta. as would palp or yoda........hell even vader........

What part of "battle matchups don't decide tier placements" don't you understand? 😂

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It doesn't matter. My point is that certain characters have specific Haxx powers that allow them to punch out of their weight class.

I'm almost certain it was Yoda. When they discovered Anakin's count they didn't say "that's even higher than Mace Windu's!" They said "even higher than Master Yoda's."


except mace really had no such special ability he used to defeat palp, he was simply better.

They also when refferring to individuals power always refferences mace. such as when they anikin goes master is "as wises as yoda and as powerful as master windu".

and I am pretty certain mace was stated to have had the highest count untill anikin though it could have been EU.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What part of "battle matchups don't decide tier placements" don't you understand? 😂
What both of you said is true.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What part of "battle matchups don't decide tier placements" don't you understand? 😂

.....if he would rape all of them he clearly not on there level.......clearly you dont understand.........

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
except mace really had no such special ability he used to defeat palp, he was simply better.

They also when refferring to individuals power always refferences mace. such as when they anikin goes master is "as wises as yoda and as powerful as master windu".

and I am pretty certain mace was stated to have had the highest count untill anikin though it could have been EU.

yoda was stated to be the highest in TPM, iirc.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
.....if he would rape all of them he clearly not on there level.......clearly you dont understand.........

First he cannot rape everyone in the Low Meta tier. Samurai Jack who's currently listed as Low Meta would give him a damn fine fight.

Second ABC logic is shit. That amounts to what you're doing here.

Originally posted by -Pr-
yoda was stated to be the highest in TPM, iirc.

was he actually stated to have it or was it simply that same refferences posted? becuases almost any refferences made was concering power almost always had to do with mace, he also listed as more powerful in the hand book role playing game (which is actaully cannon though not movie cannon of courses).

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
except mace really had no such special ability he used to defeat palp, he was simply better.

They also when refferring to individuals power always refferences mace. such as when they anikin goes master is "as wises as yoda and as powerful as master windu".

and I am pretty certain mace was stated to have had the highest count untill anikin though it could have been EU.


Try again. The only reason he was able to beat Palpatine was the fact that using his Vapaad he was able to turn some of the Emperor's own power against him. That counts as a special technique.

That statement is garbage. As I recall that was Anakin describing Obi Wan. We all know Obi Wan wasn't either as powerful as Mace or as wise as Yoda. That was simply Ani shilling his master.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
First he cannot rape everyone in the Low Meta tier. Samurai Jack who's currently listed as Low Meta would give him a damn fine fight.

Second ABC logic is shit. That amounts to what you're doing here.


wtf does samurai jack do when he force chokes that shit out of him?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
was he actually stated to have it or was it simply that same refferences posted? becuases almost any refferences made was concering power almost always had to do with mace, he also listed as more powerful in the hand book role playing game (which is actaully cannon though not movie cannon of courses).

there was also references to yoda being the best swordsman but mace is generally regarded as the best duelist.

even the cartoons tend to side with yoda as being the best force user too, and iirc they're more canon than the books.

mace couldn't block force lightning with his hands that we saw in the movies. yoda could block and redirect it.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
wtf does samurai jack do when he force chokes that shit out of him?

Since when does Mace Windu force choke people? 😬 Sure he was as close as any Jedi ever came to the Dark Side without actually ever crossing over (Luke also came pretty close) but he would never use such an attack unless morality is off.

Also Mace would have trouble dealing with Jack's superior speed.