Originally posted by Omega VisionMartial arts yes.I was talking about with their respective weapons.H2h yes jack has a large advantage.
^ Just as skilled? You sure? Now how much it will matter in an actual fight is up for debate but Jack is certainly more skilled than Mace in physical combat. He pretty much mastered every martial art on Earth.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
^ Just as skilled? You sure? Now how much it will matter in an actual fight is up for debate but Jack is certainly more skilled than Mace in physical combat. He pretty much mastered every martial art on Earth.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Martial arts yes.I was talking about with their respective weapons.H2h yes jack has a large advantage.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Mace master every single jedi martial art that there is and create his own which is the most powerful of all versions. so yes he is.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganScans saying mace is good in hand to hand?
not even sure in h2h jack better. Mace dident go h2h often, but he was an utter monster with it and could uses his vaapad in h2h combat and was a master of every single jedi martial art.
And in H2h i'd say jack is meta.Mace isn't even peak.
But with their weapons i'd say they are equally skilled.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
And I suppose he has the h/h feats to support this? And don't say him pummeling droids with his fists, that's not a showing of skill, just force power.
edit samurai jacks the more skilled h2h combatant.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Scans saying mace is good in hand to hand?And in H2h i'd say jack is meta.Mace isn't even peak.
But with their weapons i'd say they are equally skilled.
he has very few h2h feats.
peak? mace would curb people like capt, though it true how much of that is skill and how much of that is actual powers. so yea I agree samurai jack much more skill full in h2h. we only have statements about mace h2h prowesses and single clip of it. It hard to tell with jedi just has skilled then are in h2h due to the fact there MA and force are one in the same.
true.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
That was a show of skill he took numerous of them in with pure h2h prowesses, thats pretty dam crazy. True he amped his abilities with the force, but that doesent change the fact it was quite skill full.
He couldn't have accomplished that feat without force amping, ergo its not a real skill showing.
Originally posted by Omega VisionHe couldn't have accomplished that feat without force amping, ergo its not a real skill showing.
Thats kinda unfair double standard. becuase jack couldent pull off haft the shit he does if he was no extremely superhuman. so that same shit could be said of jack no?
though I agree samurai jack is with out the doubt the more skilled h2h fighter, becuase frankly we have almost no showings of maces h2h prowesses and we simply have statements about him, while jack shown to fight h2h several times.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Thats kinda unfair double standard. becuase jack couldent pull off haft the shit he does if he was no extremely superhuman. so that same shit could be said of jack no?though I agree samurai jack is with out the doubt the more skilled h2h fighter, becuase frankly we have almost no showings of maces h2h prowesses and we simply have statements about him, while jack shown to fight h2h several times.
Youtube has nothing on Samurai Jack, so all I can do is link a place you can watch the episodes.
http://tv.blinkx.com/show/samurai-jack/eNb5-oC2AhMgVB8RdHSyC1Bsf_8#s2e3
As for the sumo feat, that's in "Jack and the Smackback," and the guy is stated to be 700 tons, actually. For more strength feats you can see "Jack learns to jump good."
I'd also recommend watching "Jack and the Ultra Robots," where Jack learns to cut through Adamantium at the end.
Quick points:
No, the cartoons aren't as canon as the movies. It's stated in the Star Wars levels of canon, and the show isn't written by Lucas.
And in the cartoons Yoda's feats are superior imo.
Mace had his saber to block the lightning. He didn't use force powers to overcome Palpatine, he used brute force and superior swordsmanship. Yoda doesn't have the physical presence Mace does, so has to use the force.
Originally posted by -Pr-Even if it isn't as canon its the next level down.IMO they should be equal but they both are still completely accepted for everything.
Quick points:No, the cartoons aren't as canon as the movies. It's stated in the Star Wars levels of canon, and the show isn't written by Lucas.
And in the cartoons Yoda's feats are superior imo.
Mace had his saber to block the lightning. He didn't use force powers to overcome Palpatine, he used brute force and superior swordsmanship. Yoda doesn't have the physical presence Mace does, so has to use the force.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan1. My point is Jack is able to physically replicate Mace's feats with the aid of the Force. Actually surpass them, considering Jack did Mace's feat while carrying boulders.
it part of maces power so whats your point?prove it
prove it thats complete and utter bullshit.
yoda is only believed to have beaten mace when he was a padawan or young jedi never when he was a council memember. also the fact Mace out fought palp with light sabers, while yoda could not pretty dam proves mace is the superior duelist.
2. It's common knowledge. I'm not going to prove something that has been proved numerous times simply because you're ignorant.
3. Did Yoda not best Mace and Obi-Wan at the same time in a duel? Granted I may remember wrong.
No, that doesn't prove shit, for two reasons. Firstly, Mace uses Vapaad, which gave him the advantage against Palpatine. An advantage Mace would not have against Yoda or Jack. Secondly, Yoda actually gained the ADVANTAGE in the saber fight with Palpatine, as stated in the book that goes with the movie, and is the reason Palpatine opted for a Force battle with Yoda.