Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Originally posted by carver9
You have to use normal showings for the characters, not high ends. Frieza was depleted of his energy which gives him durability and he survived a planet exploding on him. Hell, even his father stated that a planet destroying blast isnt enough to harm him.

Again, show me how fast Superman fights or any high herald if thats the case.

Nah, find them yourself. 🙂

Where is the last updated list?

I'd like to nominate Mord-Sith Cara Mason (from Legend of the Seeker, the TV series) to whatever is the same as Mid -Meta. She's immune to any and all magic thrown at her - being able to also redirect it at its source - also has her Agiel to inflict pain on anyone who she touches it with, and can bring back the recently dead with the breath of life. She's also a kick ass fighter, as she seems to take on 30-1 odds on a daily basis.

Originally posted by carver9
Well Jinzin said that Goku would STOMP anyone in the high herald list 10/10.

One Dumb stated that Goku would do the same...

Blanket stated the same...

Along with numerous of others, I think you are underestimating them and the people that I mentioned above are some of the best debators on the forum.

Your point?

Ok...

IYO.Numerous others also think you are overestimating them.But I also think others are underestimating them.I mean by your logic freiza is trans.I think SS2 is high herald.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, you hate that huh? Using the Goku from the Anime would destroy EVERYTHING that you mentioned throughout the thread. Akira himself gave approval of EVERYTHING that happened in the anime which makes it just as cannon as the manga. He was impressed and stated that he cant believe they wrote everything like he pictured it.

The anime is a cannon source to use. Go to Gokus or any anime characters respect thread, you will see nothing but anime clips put up, hell you'll see more anime than manga.

Cause that proves it is canon SO MUCH RITE!? No, it is because most people have watched the anime rather than read the manga, manga is the only canon source. Your bawing won't change that.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor defeated a starving Galactus twice along with numerous of other people.
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Originally posted by psycho gundam
that's one of my favorite TNG episodes of all time

mazinkaiser ain't nothin to phuck wit:

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Hmm, yeah, Mazinkaiser looks to be in the Voltron/Ultraman Range. Moreso than Mazinger Z. I'm gonna try to get my hands on the OVA, but in the meantime, Low Herald seems acceptable. 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
Then stop bringing up Superman's lowest showings. Freeza only survived because he can literally survive ANY wound no matter how grievous. Also, Freeza was not fully depleted, he was given some from Goku, he likely had some left. Also, Freeza did not take the full power of the blast. Not that it matters though, since a planet exploding killed Mystic Gohan, and would have killed Goku and Vegeta. 🙂

Nah, find them yourself. 🙂

Not his lowest but his norm. Show me that speed feat.

😕 Frieza was in the heart of the planet explosion and Goku even stated that his energy was gone. Then Goku lended him some energy and he used that energy to attack Goku.

When was Gohun killed by a mere planet destroying blast? If you are talking about that kid buu blast, that was much more. It disintegrated the entire planet, nothing was left, not even rubble. The first blast that buu shot that Vegita deflected was a planet destroying blast, the other, he added more power so that Vegita or Goku wouldnt stop it.

Originally posted by carver9
Everything that you just posted is nice... but this one speed feat of Goku outshines almost any short blitz or combat speed feat that has been shown on KMC, including your scans.

Goku blitz Cell so fast that he actually turned into living lightning. 😕

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzCj3kSK1pI&feature=related

Start 2 minutes

Or how about Captain Ginyu blitzing so fast that he turns into light... short blitz by the way, something that even flash have not done...unless you can prove me wrong. Show me flash blitzing at a short distance turning into light.

Fast forward this to 4 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOACeDEE8vU&feature=related

Carver, you've admitted countless times you only think DBZ characters are faster because of how it looks. That's a poor argument.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Only not really. Congradulations, a pebble can now injure SSJ Goku. Akira licensed it, yes, no shit, but that does not make it canon. Also, I love how you feed us claims from Akira without ever providing a link.

Cause that proves it is canon SO MUCH RITE!? No, it is because most people have watched the anime rather than read the manga, manga is the only canon source. Your bawing won't change that.

Smh...

Here we go again...

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hey look guys, another style over substance argument.

Carver, you've admitted countless times you only think DBZ characters are faster because of how it looks. That's a poor argument.

Hey guys...look at Nemobro debating style, look at the way he coutered my post.

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Originally posted by carver9
Not his lowest but his norm. Show me that speed feat.

😕 Frieza was in the heart of the planet explosion and Goku even stated that his energy was gone. Then Goku lended him some energy and he used that energy to attack Goku.

When was Gohun killed by a mere planet destroying blast? If you are talking about that kid buu blast, that was much more. It disintegrated the entire planet, nothing was left, not even rubble. The first blast that buu shot that Vegita deflected was a planet destroying blast, the other, he added more power so that Vegita or Goku wouldnt stop it.

The heart of the planet explosion was the core of the planet, which Freeza most certainly was not in. 😐 He did not use all of his energy. Since, you know, he could still fly. He barely had enough energy to physically function before.

Kid Buu. Much more? It destroyed a planet. See, you're of the view that planets do not vary in size. Jupiter is much larger than Earth for instance. You clearly have no idea how the cosmos scales.

Originally posted by carver9
Hey guys...look at Nemobro debating style, look at the way he coutered my post.

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Quantify a DBZ speed feat. PLEASE.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I do have a problem with that.If carver can actually provide us with links showing akira saying things like anime is canon and cell can destroy a solar system it should be taken as canon.Lucas word is law for SW so why not the same for akira?

If he provided links, fine, contrary to popular belief I don't care whether or not Goku is more powerful than Superman, but you have to prove it.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I do have a problem with that.If carver can actually provide us with links showing akira saying things like anime is canon and cell can destroy a solar system it should be taken as canon.Lucas word is law for SW so why not the same for akira?

This is where the video was posted but the link is disabled but the people comments are still there.

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-forum/akira-toriyama-confirms-cell-is-a-solar-system-buster-in-interview-89096/

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Where is the last updated list?

I'd like to nominate [b]Mord-Sith Cara Mason (from Legend of the Seeker, the TV series) to whatever is the same as Mid -Meta. She's immune to any and all magic thrown at her - being able to also redirect it at its source - also has her Agiel to inflict pain on anyone who she touches it with, and can bring back the recently dead with the breath of life. She's also a kick ass fighter, as she seems to take on 30-1 odds on a daily basis. [/B]

I just want to note here that Legend of the Seeker is based on the Sword of Truth series of books. I have only read the first one and I don't watch the TV series, but it needs to be known that there is another source for this.

Originally posted by NemeBro
What speed feat? And no, you pick out Superman's lowest showings as his norm.

The heart of the planet explosion was the core of the planet, which Freeza most certainly was not in. 😐 He did not use all of his energy. Since, you know, he could still fly. He barely had enough energy to physically function before.

Kid Buu. Much more? It destroyed a planet. See, you're of the view that planets do not vary in size. Jupiter is much larger than Earth for instance. You clearly have no idea how the cosmos scales.

Again, the first blast that buu shot was a planetary blast, the second was MUCH more. If it was only a planetary, SOMETHING would hae been left behind... it annihilated the planet.

I have posted numerous of COMBAT speed feats that Goku has and I also showed you weaker speed feats overwhelming Supes.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Your entire speed argument hinges on how it looks, not on how fast they are actually going.

Quantify a DBZ speed feat. PLEASE.

Physically turning your body to lightning or moving so fast that time itself stops... I would say that would be above 93000 mps.

Your turn.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hey look guys, another style over substance argument.

Carver, you've admitted countless times you only think DBZ characters are faster because of how it looks. That's a poor argument.

Originally posted by iceman24567
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Of course you'll agree even though I never said that but how about you post some scans.