Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Originally posted by marwash22
the Toguro stadium feat was @ (i believe) 40% of his power... not his weakest, but obviously not his strongest. The stage by the way, was easily 100 tons.

I agree and yes, that stadium was far above 100 tons. Yu Yu is a beast... love the character but there is some feats out there that people can use against him (like him chasing after a bike but was unable to catch the guy on the bike) but its anime... they do things like that to make the story longer and interesting.

Originally posted by carver9
Thats its? I say around low to mid herald.

He was classified as a planet buster. THEN the guy punched a hundred super humans out of orbit in less than a second.

Then thats not including him matching strength with a guy that was at his weakest but STILL lifted a stadium up without a problem. Also his speed and his high end durability. Yeah, I would say low to mid herald.

High Meta seems about right that is just a rank below Low Herald.

Originally posted by kgkg
Low herald maybe you can make a case there< I personally don't see it>. Mid-Herald? There is no feat that indicates he was even close to that level.

High Meta seems about right that is just a rank below Low Herald.

Do you think Tagoru at his prime can take or beat the Hulk?

Toguro @ full strength could make finger bullets... He's probably up there with base-Hulk.

Originally posted by marwash22
Toguro @ full strength could make finger bullets... He's probably up there with base-Hulk.

Yeah, his thumps were so strong that he was actually using the air as a weapon and lets not even include the swing of his punch outright destroying the Stadium along with his speed, etc... I consider him>Hulk and since he was the weakest of the demons and YuYu by the end of the show was>>>Tagoru, he is either a low or mid Herald.

Originally posted by carver9
Do you think Tagoru at his prime can take or beat the Hulk?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I think you should. You have my unwavering support, which, as we all know, is crucial for all decision making here. 131

Rather than a poll you should make people actually post yes or no to be counted. What's the point of anonymous pollees influencing what gets into the cross gen threads if they're never going to actually participate in them.

Originally posted by kgkg
Low herald maybe you can make a case there< I personally don't see it>. Mid-Herald? There is no feat that indicates he was even close to that level.

High Meta seems about right that is just a rank below Low Herald.

Originally posted by kgkg
Hulk is a very linear character people in much lower ranking can beat Hulk if they play it right. But I don't see the S ranking people at YuYu Hakusho beating people like BRB , Adam , Flash etc.

Beta Ray Bill is in the wrong class, he should EASILY be a high herald. Flash? What high herald beside Surfer can beat flash with CIS off? Adam? It depends, I can see YuYu giving Adam a fight and possibly winning some. I could see Tagoru giving Adam a fight if he stuck to the ground like he usually does.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Elite Meta?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Elite Meta?

I'm even comfortable with low-herald.

Originally posted by kgkg
Are we using a different ranking system isn't it High, Middle ,Low?

low
mid
high
elite

Originally posted by kgkg
Are we using a different ranking system isn't it High, Middle ,Low?

Originally posted by Creshosk
"One bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch, girl."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjfT1D1lg-E

Originally posted by carver9
Beta Ray Bill is in the wrong class, he should EASILY be a high herald. Flash? What high herald beside Surfer can beat flash with CIS off? Adam? It depends, I can see YuYu giving Adam a fight and possibly winning some. I could see Tagoru giving Adam a fight if he stuck to the ground like he usually does.

Even the S classes Demon kings didn't have feats like the Mid-Herald ... and Tagoru really didn't do much...

as for Flash look at the High Herald tier... People like Genis , Baron , Spartan should be able to beat Wally.

Originally posted by Creshosk
at some point we picked up elite. Elite meta is for like above city level but below planetary. Like around continental class.

Originally posted by kgkg
Wait wasn't Tagoru an Upper B Class demon he is going to fight Adam who can punch almost as hard as Superman? Don't follow.

Even the S classes Demon kings didn't have feats like the Mid-Herald ... and Tagoru really didn't do much...

as for Flash look at the High Herald tier... People like Genis , Baron , Spartan should be able to beat Wally.

And how hard can Taguro punch? You really cant down him when it come to other people in other universes because we really wouldnt know unless they are pitted against each other.

We do know this, the weakest form of Taguro punched a HUGE building down with ease, we also know that his punch power was so strong that it completely DESTROYED the entire stadium that they were fighting in. We also seen him punch a mountain size hole in the ground with one swing during one of his training session and again, he wasnt at full power.

YuYu is a S class demon and again, he is was a planetary level threat but you could be right, you usually know what you are talking about KgKg, so if you think he is an Elite Meta, then I agree.

Originally posted by Badabing
I may just edit out all the posts and formally ban DBZ from the cross genre threads. I can see the problems now

Edit: That would be dickish, even for me. biscuits We'll put it to a vote tomorrow. I'll make a thread with a poll.

I'm completely against this. There are people who are just as persistent and stubborn when debating Superman, Wolverine, Thanos, or about a hundred other comic characters. Are we going to ban all discussion of Wolverine simply because we disagree with someone's opinion of the character? Or ban Thanos to shut Quanchi up?

That's a line we shouldn't cross in my opinion.

People simply need to grow up and stop taking these discussions of fiction so personally. It degrades to a point of extremist religious zealotry. Any opposing opinion is seen in the same vein as a satirical comic of Muhammad. If you don't agree with something, either state your piece and keep it moving, or do what I do all the time: stay out of the discussion. People seem to get so caught up in trying to get the final word and shout down the opposition that nothing constructive gets said. The original intent of this exercise was to broaden peoples horizons to characters they may not normally be familiar with and give people more options for the hypothetical debates, not to expand the list of characters for people to say "My favorite character's dick is bigger than ______. F*ck _____!" and draw more lines in the sand.

Seriously, how can people get so worked up about fantasy?

Smh...

*edit

I'll finish the tier list update in the AM.

I'm gonna chill with my girl.

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'm completely against this. There are people who are just as persistent and stubborn when debating Superman, Wolverine, Thanos, or about a hundred other comic characters. Are we going to ban all discussion of Wolverine simply because we disagree with someone's opinion of the character? Or ban Thanos to shut Quanchi up?

That's a line we shouldn't cross in my opinion.

People simply need to grow up and stop taking these discussions of [b]fiction so personally. It degrades to a point of extremist religious zealotry. Any opposing opinion is seen in the same vein as a satirical comic of Muhammad. If you don't agree with something, either state your piece and keep in moving, or do what I do all the time: stay out of the discussion. People seem to get so caught up in trying to get the final word and shout down the opposition that nothing constructive gets said. The original intent of this exercise was to broaden peoples horizons to characters they may not normally be familiar with and give people more options for the hypothetical debates, not to expand the list of characters for people to say "My favorite character's dick is bigger than ______. F*ck _____!" and draw more lines in the sand.

Seriously, how can people get so worked up about fantasy?

Smh... [/B]

Says the guy who perpetually hates on Superman. Yeah, i said it. uhuh

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'm completely against this. There are people who are just as persistent and stubborn when debating Superman, Wolverine, Thanos, or about a hundred other comic characters. Are we going to ban all discussion of Wolverine simply because we disagree with someone's opinion of the character? Or ban Thanos to shut Quanchi up?

That's a line we shouldn't cross in my opinion.

People simply need to grow up and stop taking these discussions of [b]fiction so personally. It degrades to a point of extremist religious zealotry. Any opposing opinion is seen in the same vein as a satirical comic of Muhammad. If you don't agree with something, either state your piece and keep it moving, or do what I do all the time: stay out of the discussion. People seem to get so caught up in trying to get the final word and shout down the opposition that nothing constructive gets said. The original intent of this exercise was to broaden peoples horizons to characters they may not normally be familiar with and give people more options for the hypothetical debates, not to expand the list of characters for people to say "My favorite character's dick is bigger than ______. F*ck _____!" and draw more lines in the sand.

Seriously, how can people get so worked up about fantasy?

Smh... [/B]

Damn.

qft

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'm completely against this. There are people who are just as persistent and stubborn when debating Superman, Wolverine, Thanos, or about a hundred other comic characters. Are we going to ban all discussion of Wolverine simply because we disagree with someone's opinion of the character? Or ban Thanos to shut Quanchi up?

That's a line we shouldn't cross in my opinion.

People simply need to grow up and stop taking these discussions of [b]fiction so personally. It degrades to a point of extremist religious zealotry. Any opposing opinion is seen in the same vein as a satirical comic of Muhammad. If you don't agree with something, either state your piece and keep it moving, or do what I do all the time: stay out of the discussion. People seem to get so caught up in trying to get the final word and shout down the opposition that nothing constructive gets said. The original intent of this exercise was to broaden peoples horizons to characters they may not normally be familiar with and give people more options for the hypothetical debates, not to expand the list of characters for people to say "My favorite character's dick is bigger than ______. F*ck _____!" and draw more lines in the sand.

Seriously, how can people get so worked up about fantasy?

Smh... [/B]

Good post.