Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

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Originally posted by Creshosk
It's what Smurph and I were saying. . . facepalm
He actually said it in a logical way.

Hmm...

There's still a hole in that though. Machine guns have a higher volume of bullets fired, granted, but not necessarily a higher velocity given to the rounds fired and travelling through the air. I believe that would be based on the caliber of the gun, which more than likely can't be quantifed. Agents were shown dodging several shots, not just "single bullets" and shifting into multiple positions. Whole clips were fired at them in rapid succession from various caliber weapons, both automatic (in the case of Morpheus in Reloaded) and semi automatic (Neo in the original film). The Agents weren't, however, shown moving laterally as they dodged (because they didn't need to). That doesn't make one more impressive than the other though, IMO.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Hmm...

There's still a hole in that though. Machine guns have a higher volume of bullets fired, granted, but not necessarily a higher velocity given to the rounds fired and travelling through the air. I believe that would be based on the caliber of the gun, which more than likely can't be quantifed. Agents were shown dodging several shots, not just "single bullets" and shifting into multiple positions. Whole clips were fired at them in rapid succession from various caliber weapons, both automatic (in the case of Morpheus in Reloaded) and semi automatic (Neo in the original film). The Agents weren't, however, shown moving laterally as they dodged (because they didn't need to). That doesn't make one more impressive than the other though, IMO.

An MG 131 has a muzzle velocity of ~ 750 m/s
The m2 browning has a muzzle velocity of ~887.1 m/s

The glock 17(which is the handgun the good guys use most of the time) has a muzzle velocity of ~650 m/s
The desert eagle that the agents use has a muzzle velocity of ~421 m/s

Now... who wants to do the trigonometry to figure out the movement speed?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Now... who wants to do the trigonometry to figure out the movement speed?
Wouldn't that be near impossible?I mean it would take major reseach to find out how far the distance was and how much do the bullets slow down from the muzzle velocity once they left the muzzle.

Originally posted by Creshosk
An MG 131 has a muzzle velocity of ~ 750 m/s
The m2 browning has a muzzle velocity of ~887.1 m/s

The glock 17(which is the handgun the good guys use most of the time) has a muzzle velocity of ~650 m/s
The desert eagle that the agents use has a muzzle velocity of ~421 m/s

Good.

Now do we know the make and model of the guns shot at Spiderman?

See the problem?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Good.

Now do we know the make and model of the guns shot at Spiderman?

See the problem?

It was more about your statement that the machine guns fired the rounds slower. They don't.

It depends on the model of the gun and caliber of rounds. It's not so cut and dry Cresh. Some specialty rounds will pack more gunpowder or have better aerodynamics that can alter their velocity. That was my point. There's a lot of variables and we don't know them all.

Isn't it details like that the kind of thing we gloss over, though, for the sake of being able to debate proper? I mean, what are the chances some random thugs Spiderman's facing are going to have specialty ammunition for their guns?

Originally posted by illadelph12
It depends on the model of the gun and caliber of rounds. It's not so cut and dry Cresh. Some specialty rounds will pack more gunpowder or have better aerodynamics that can alter their velocity. That was my point. There's a lot of variables and we don't know them all.
We know what kind of hand gun the good guys used in the matrix it fires at a maximum of 435 m/s (1,430 ft/s)

Machine guns on average have a velocity of double that.

Just found a feat.Heres majin buu destroying a galaxy.

http://www.watch-dragonball.com/watch/424-Dragonball_Z_Episode_204.html

It starts at about 16:50

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Just found a feat.Heres majin buu destroying a galaxy.

http://www.watch-dragonball.com/watch/424-Dragonball_Z_Episode_204.html

It starts at about 16:50


What part of "no talking about DBZ" don't you understand?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What part of "no talking about DBZ" don't you understand?
Just wanted to put that out there since you said No DBZ character could do anything to surfer.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Just wanted to put that out there since you said No DBZ character could do anything to surfer.

Okay I'll say this (apologies to Illadelph for indulging in this jackassery).

You missed the part where it clearly states Majin Buu was wiping out planets one at a time. He's not a Galaxy Buster, he's a planet buster or at best a star buster.

Systematic destruction, not wholesale destruction.

/jackassery.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Okay I'll say this (apologies to Illadelph for indulging in this jackassery).

You missed the part where it clearly states Majin Buu was wiping out planets one at a time. He's not a Galaxy Buster, he's a planet buster or [b]at best a star buster.

Systematic destruction, not wholesale destruction.

/jackassery. [/B]

Supreme kai said he erased entire galaxies.How many solar systems are are in a galaxy?Billions?So even if he eliminated a solar system at a time it would take at least a couple hundred years.

No he wiped out the whole galaxies.

Please hold this conversation until September 5th.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Supreme kai said he erased entire galaxies.How many solar systems are are in a galaxy?Billions?So even if he eliminated a solar system at a time it would take at least a couple hundred years.

No he wiped out the whole galaxies.


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Oh yay... more DBZ talk.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Please hold this conversation indefinitely.
I like my version of your sentence better.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Supreme kai said he erased entire galaxies.How many solar systems are are in a galaxy?Billions?So even if he eliminated a solar system at a time it would take at least a couple hundred years.

No he wiped out the whole galaxies.

It would take way, way, way more than a couple hundred years to destroy and entire galaxy planet by planet.

Yeah, sure, he wiped out galaxies, by destroying planets one by one, not by destroying the entire galaxy at once. Got it memorized?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Please hold this conversation until September 5th.

Was sniped during typing. I'll end with my point.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Please hold this conversation until September 5th.
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
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WHistling at the truth I see.
Originally posted by XanatosForever
It would take way, way, way more than a couple hundred years to destroy and entire galaxy planet by planet.

Yeah, sure, he wiped out galaxies, by destroying planets one by one, not by destroying the entire galaxy at once. Got it memorized?

Was sniped during typing. I'll end with my point.

Well if it takes more then a couple hundred years planet by planet then he at minimum has to be a solar system buster.