Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

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Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
A dispute of some reason. I think it was only one person anyway and the consensus was that they were wrong.

that was me, but I was debating that windu was more powerful then he.

Black bolt z Mindsets Master

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
that was me, but I was debating that windu was more powerful then he.
Depends on how you define more powerful.In a fight?Yes IMO mace.In pure strength?Jack by far.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Depends on how you define more powerful.In a fight?Yes IMO mace.In pure strength?Jack by far.

agreed

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Bowser , Data [Star Trek: TNG], Father [KND], Harry Dresden, K', Phantom Limb, Ranma Saotome, Rurouni Kenshin, Ryouga Hibiki, Ryu Hayabasa, Samurai Jack, Vash the Stampede,

This cant be accurate........samurai jack is vastly beyond low meta, also vash has to be beyond low meta.........also Ryu? like RYU from street fighter? how the hell is he low meta?

They underate Anime characters... I promise you that they do.

What is shown on panel, they state that it really isnt happening; its artistic license. Everyone that you just named is FAR above low meta, especially samurai jack.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by carver9
They underate Anime characters... I promise you that they do.

What is shown on panel, they state that it really isnt happening; its artistic license. Everyone that you just named is FAR above low meta, especially samurai jack.


No one here has ever lowballed Jack. He could be Mid Meta based on his ability to jump good and his strength and reaction feats.

Also do you even know who half those listed characters are?

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
They underate Anime characters... I promise you that they do.

What is shown on panel, they state that it really isnt happening; its artistic license. Everyone that you just named is FAR above low meta, especially samurai jack.


so true. Vash is likely the least powerful and he took down entire armies with like two pistols, and his super move destroyed entire town.

Also I wish for Jarlaxle and Athrogate for low meta.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
They underate Anime characters... I promise you that they do.

What is shown on panel, they state that it really isnt happening; its artistic license. Everyone that you just named is FAR above low meta, especially samurai jack.

Z is in transcendent and Haruhi is in abstract.

No, looks like when people prove their case the anime characters are placed appropriately.

Of course that's the trick isn't it?

Of course I guess the first step is understanding the material you're talking about in the first place.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No one here has ever lowballed Jack. He could be Mid Meta based on his ability to jump good and his strength and reaction feats.

Also do you even know who half those listed characters are?


If jack can lift 600 tons, move fast enough to react to bullets if not faster there is no way he should be in low meta........That like as bad as having omega red in low meta (which he currently is which is absurd).

He was talking about the guys I said who were jack, vash and Ryu. known of which should really be low meta at all.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
so true. Vash is likely the least powerful and he took down entire armies with like two pistols, and his super move destroyed entire town.

Also I wish for Jarlaxle and Athrogate for low meta.

I keep trying to find scans or videos of the titlular "prop" but you tube isn't cooperating. if I could find the incidents in question I think I could get him up pretty high.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No one here has ever lowballed Jack. He could be Mid Meta based on his ability to jump good and his strength and reaction feats.

Also do you even know who half those listed characters are?

I know NUMEROUS of them and Vash doesnt belong where you all are putting him. Vash is more powerful and could take on two of the people that is in the tier that you all are putting him in and STOMP them.

Not trying to be mean Omega but you all do lowball Anime characters... I have seen you all throw all of their feats off as artistic license... I have seen people post feats like Black Bolt along with numerous of others and you all discredit it and use other characters from Marvel or DC that has done the same thing ONE TIME (one time feat) and use that to cover your arguments.

Sometimes you all make good judgments about characters but majority of the time it is bad. Like someone bringing up a guy that can rip limbs off, you all found a way to down play that feat by saying that humans can perform the same things.

Damn... what does people have to do to get you all to understand where a character belongs on the tier thread and its the same people that is disagreeing with everyone.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
If jack can lift 600 tons,
That's a meta feat.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
move fast enough to react to bullets if not faster there is no way he should be in low meta........
Several of the street levelers have done this.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
That like as bad as having omega red in low meta (which he currently is which is absurd).
Agreed he should at least be mid. but this isn't the thread for that.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by carver9
I know NUMEROUS of them and Vash doesnt belong where you all are putting him. Vash is more powerful and could take on two of the people that is in the tier that you all are putting him in and STOMP them.

Why can't you understand that ABC logic doesn't determine tier placement?

If it did then Midnighter would be Low Herald.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Creshosk
I keep trying to find scans or videos of the titlular "prop" but you tube isn't cooperating. if I could find the incidents in question I think I could get him up pretty high.

Is that what vash's super move is call? I honestly can't remember what it called for the life of me. I will look as well, my brother I believe has a lot of the anime and I believe he said he could get me the entire manga.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why can't you understand that ABC logic doesn't determine tier placement?

If it did then Midnighter would be Low Herald.

I agree with the abc logic but if a guy can shoot a random blast that can level a city; then he can dodge bullets that is coming from a 100 shooters like it is nothing, without even trying... then he has precog, 6th sense, super strength, hell, the guy shot a blast out of his hands that blasted a hole in the sky... etc...

He is FAR above low meta. Spiderman is a low meta, Wolverine is a low Meta...

You all are truly low balling him.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why can't you understand that ABC logic doesn't determine tier placement?

If it did then Midnighter would be Low Herald.

based on what? any low Herald should and would stomp him on the forum.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
based on what? any low Herald should and would stomp him on the forum.

He beat Apollo in a fight. His tactical computer makes it so that if there's a chance of him beating his opponent he will beat that opponent.

That being said he could probably beat a lot of guys in the Mid Meta and High Meta tier as well as some Low Heralds. But he's still in Low Meta because he lacks the raw power that would place him higher.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's a meta feat.

Several of the street levelers have done this.

It not a low meta feat however.

Not to the extent, he shows like spiderman level speed, but also is able to lift 600 tons.......thats clearly beyond low meta.

I mean especially when people like quick silver I consider mid meta amoung other who simply arnt his level.

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Creshosk

Agreed he should at least be mid. but this isn't the thread for that.


true

Dum Dum Dugan Senior Member

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He beat Apollo in a fight. His tactical computer makes it so that if there's a chance of him beating his opponent he will beat that opponent.

That being said he could probably beat a lot of guys in the Mid Meta and High Meta tier as well as some Low Heralds. But he's still in Low Meta because he lacks the raw power that would place him higher.


honestly on a forum match he never beat apollo (also it is lover, you really think apollo is going full out?). Wolverine beat similar characters, but were not about to argue that he be able to do so on a forum match. Midnighter is so overrated. No he wont, simply becuases he runs scenerios does not mean he can make the one that has him win happen. That bullshit.

no he can't, not in a forum match your simply vastly overrating him and his abilities. I will gladly make a thread and watch you try and argue that, you will be ridiculed by the vast majority of the board asside from a few die hard midnighter nut huggers.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
It not a low meta feat however.

Not to the extent, he shows like spiderman level speed, but also is able to lift 600 tons.......thats clearly beyond low meta.

I mean especially when people like quick silver I consider mid meta amoung other who simply arnt his level.


He also failed to pick up a boulder in the second Scotsman episode. Instead he judo tossed his opponent fifty meters, which in itself is still an impressive strength feat for someone who should by rights have Peak Human strength at best.